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Sophia Carter

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I'm dealing with the exact same issue - filed 1/23 and absolutely nothing showing up anywhere! After reading through all these suggestions, I think I'm going to try the 866-682-7451 ext 569 number first thing Monday morning around 8 AM. The paid callback services sound tempting when you're this desperate, but like others mentioned, it feels wrong having to pay extra just to reach a government agency we're required to deal with. Has anyone tried the Spanish language line? I've heard sometimes those have shorter wait times even if you speak English - the agents are usually bilingual anyway. At this point I'm willing to try anything! The lack of updates after filing over 6 weeks ago is really starting to worry me that something went wrong with my return.

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Yuki Tanaka

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The Spanish language line is actually a brilliant idea! I hadn't thought of that approach. You're right that most IRS agents are bilingual, and if the wait times are shorter, it's definitely worth trying. I've been in a similar situation - filed 1/29 and still seeing absolutely nothing on my transcripts. It's so nerve-wracking when you start wondering if something went wrong with the filing itself. Have you tried checking with your tax software or preparer to confirm they actually received confirmation that the return was accepted? Sometimes that can at least give you peace of mind that it made it into the system. Good luck with the Monday morning call - I hope you get through! This whole experience has me seriously considering switching to paper filing next year, even if it's slower.

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I've been through this exact same frustrating experience! Filed 1/25 and had zero movement for weeks. What finally worked for me was calling 877-777-4778 (Taxpayer Advocate Service) around 7:45 AM on a Tuesday morning. I explained that I'd been trying the main lines for over two weeks with no success and that my return had been in processing since late January with no updates on transcripts or WMR. They were actually really helpful and assigned me a case advocate who followed up within 3 business days. Turns out my return was stuck in a verification queue that just needed a simple identity confirmation. The whole thing was resolved within a week of that call. I know it's one more number to try, but TAS is specifically designed for situations like this where normal IRS channels aren't working. Don't give up - there are people there who actually want to help!

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One thing nobody's mentioned - what type of business entity are you? Is it an LLC, an S-Corp, a C-Corp? This makes a HUGE difference for how you can be classified! If you're a C-Corp, you're definitely an employee regardless of being a co-founder. If you're an LLC, you could be treated as a partner for tax purposes. S-Corps are somewhere in between. Also, does your employment agreement include anything about being "at will"? If so, that's another strong indicator you're an employee, not a partner.

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Paolo Conti

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This is an important point! I was in a similar situation with my LLC. Even though I was a co-founder with 40% ownership, I was initially on payroll as an employee with taxes withheld. When we switched me to partner classification, we had to file paperwork formally changing our operating agreement and tax election. It wasn't just a matter of stopping withholding.

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Charity Cohan

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This is a classic case of worker misclassification that I see way too often in startups. Your CEO doesn't get to unilaterally decide you're a "partner" just because it's more convenient for payroll taxes. The IRS has very specific criteria for determining worker classification, and having equity doesn't automatically make you a partner. Key factors include: - Do you have a written employment agreement? βœ“ (You do) - Are you paid a regular salary vs. profit distributions? βœ“ (You get $125k salary) - Does the company control how you do your work? βœ“ (Likely as CTO) - Have you been receiving W-2s? βœ“ (You mentioned you have one) All of these point strongly toward employee status. Your equity is just additional compensation, not a change in your fundamental relationship with the company. I'd strongly recommend pushing back on this change. If your CEO insists on reclassifying you, demand that he consult with both a tax attorney and accountant first. Improper worker classification can result in significant penalties for the business - back taxes, interest, and fines that could seriously hurt your startup. Don't let him shift the tax burden to you without proper legal justification. You signed an employment agreement for a reason!

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This is such helpful advice! As someone who's new to startup equity and tax implications, I'm wondering - if the company does try to reclassify someone mid-year like this, what kind of timeline does the IRS typically give to correct the mistake? And would the employee be personally liable for any penalties if they went along with the incorrect classification, or does that fall on the company? I'm asking because this situation seems like it could happen to a lot of startup employees who don't fully understand their rights and obligations.

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Mia Alvarez

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Has anyone dealt with state sales tax for physical books sold directly to readers? Amazon handles online sales tax but I'm confused about books I sell at local events and writing conferences.

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Carter Holmes

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In most states you need a sales tax permit for in-person sales. I got one for my state and collect sales tax at book fairs/conferences, then file quarterly. Each state has different thresholds though. I keep a separate spreadsheet just for these sales because they're treated differently than my Amazon royalties at tax time.

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Ethan Davis

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I'm in a very similar situation - just started self-publishing this year and also operating at a loss with all the upfront costs! One thing I learned recently is to keep detailed records of EVERYTHING, even small expenses like stock photos or promotional bookmarks. The IRS allows you to deduct ordinary and necessary business expenses, and for authors that can include a lot more than you'd think - research books for your genre, writing software subscriptions, even a portion of your internet bill if you use it for publishing activities. Also, don't stress too much about the business entity question right now. You can absolutely file as a sole proprietor on Schedule C without forming an LLC or corporation. That said, once you start turning a profit consistently, it might be worth consulting a tax professional about whether forming an entity would benefit you. For now, focus on good record-keeping and remember that your current losses can actually help reduce your overall tax burden from your day job!

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Oscar O'Neil

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Are you sure you calculated your excess SS tax correctly? The limit is only on the amount of wages subject to SS tax, not the actual tax amount itself. For 2024, the wage base limit was $168,600. If your combined wages from both jobs exceeded that amount, then you would be entitled to a refund of the excess SS tax. But if your total wages were under that limit, you wouldn't be entitled to any excess SS tax refund.

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Actually, this is incorrect. Even if total wages are below the limit, having multiple employers can still result in excess Social Security tax withholding. Each employer is required to withhold Social Security tax on wages up to the wage base limit ($168,600 for 2024), without considering what other employers might have withheld. So if OP had two jobs that each withheld at the full 6.2% rate without knowing about each other, the total withheld could exceed the maximum required payment.

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Sasha Reese

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago with multiple employers. The IRS verification process for excess Social Security tax claims is pretty standard - they just want to make sure the math checks out. Your calculation looks spot on. The key thing to remember is that each employer withholds Social Security tax independently without knowing what other employers have withheld from you during the year. So even though your total wages might be well below the $168,600 limit, you can still end up with excess withholding. When you respond to their letter, make sure to include: 1. Copies of both W-2s (not originals) 2. A simple calculation showing the excess like you did here 3. Your SSN written on every page 4. A copy of their letter Send it certified mail so you have proof of delivery. In my experience, once they see the W-2s, they process the refund pretty quickly. This is definitely not audit territory - just routine verification. Don't stress about it!

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Updated W4 and withholdings -- my paycheck dropped dramatically after changes

I'm losing my mind trying to find that perfect sweet spot of no refund/no payment at tax time. Seems impossible and I'm starting to think the system is rigged. For the last several years, my wife and I have consistently owed between $2000-$4700 when we file our taxes. And yes, our W4s are set up correctly according to everything I've readβ€”married filing jointly, we both checked the multiple jobs/spouse works box, $0 in the dependents section, and we've been doing extra withholding of about $200 each per month. Our situation is super straightforward - one W2 job each, no side hustles, no investments, nothing complicated. We have two children, take the child tax credits, dependent care credit, and go with the standard deduction. After owing around $3400 on our 2024 taxes, we immediately updated our W4s again to increase our withholding by roughly $50 per month each (I get paid twice a month, she gets paid biweekly). So my withholding went from $175 to $225 per paycheck. Here's where it's weird - my next paycheck was almost $370 LESS than normal. I'm confused... are W4 changes additive, like my original $175 plus my new $225 means they're now taking $400? Or did payroll take extra to make up for previous paychecks? Like $50 Γ— 7.5 paychecks I've already received = $375? I'm just frustrated that we pay so much in taxes every year, withhold a ton already, and have literally the simplest possible income situation, yet we can't seem to break even. Why is balancing this such a nightmare???? Thanks for any help. I know everyone's going through stuff right now.

CosmicVoyager

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I had this exact same problem and figured out what was happening. On the W-4, there are basically 3 ways extra withholding happens: 1. Checking the "Multiple Jobs/Spouse Works" box 2. The dollar amount you put on line 4(c) for extra withholding 3. The worksheet calculations for multiple jobs (the detailed one) If you check the box AND put an extra amount, some payroll systems get confused and essentially double-dip on the withholding. When I removed my extra withholding amount and ONLY checked the box, my withholding was much closer to accurate. Check your paystub to see if the federal withholding jumped way more than just the extra $50 you added.

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Ravi Kapoor

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This makes so much sense! I've been having similar issues and never considered the possibility of "double dipping" between the different W-4 sections. Going to check my paystub now.

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I feel your frustration - this is such a common issue that drives people crazy! The dramatic paycheck drop you experienced is likely due to one of two things: 1. **Catch-up withholding**: Since you made the change in April (about 1/3 through the year), your payroll system probably calculated that you were already under-withheld for the first few months and is now "catching up" by taking extra to compensate. This is actually pretty standard for mid-year W-4 changes. 2. **Payroll confusion**: Your HR department might have misunderstood your intent and stacked the new $225 on top of your existing $175, giving you $400 total extra withholding per paycheck instead of replacing it. I'd definitely recommend checking your pay stub line by line - compare the federal tax withholding amount to your previous check. If it looks like they're taking way more than the $50 increase you intended, contact payroll immediately. Also, for someone with your straightforward situation (two W-2s, standard deduction, child tax credits), the fact that you're consistently owing $2000-4700 suggests there might be a systematic issue with how your payroll systems are calculating withholding. The IRS withholding estimator should work well for your situation - have you tried running it with both of your most recent pay stubs? Hang in there - once you get this sorted out, it should be much smoother going forward!

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Nia Wilson

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This is really helpful, especially the point about catch-up withholding! I never realized that payroll systems automatically adjust for mid-year changes like that. It makes me wonder if there's a way to request they spread the adjustment more evenly across the remaining paychecks instead of front-loading it so heavily. Also, regarding the IRS withholding estimator - I've tried it a few times over the years but always seemed to end up owing anyway. Reading through these other comments about taxr.ai and the payroll system implementation issues, I'm starting to think the problem might not be with the W-4 calculations themselves but with how my company's payroll processes them. Definitely going to dig into my pay stub details like you suggested!

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