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Omar Farouk

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Just went through this last month!!! The way it was explained to me is super simple: 1) company gave me $18k for moving expenses 2) but that $18k is taxable income so I'd lose like $5k to taxes 3) company doesn't want me to lose that $5k, so they ALSO give me enough extra money to cover those taxes 4) but that extra money is ALSO taxable! 5) so they do this calculation that ends up being more than just the taxes on the original amount On my paystub it showed up almost exactly like yours - a big gross up amount and then this weird "offset" that confused the hell out of me. In the end, my tax guy said it's all correct and the company is paying the full freight including all the taxes. Don't worry about it!

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Chloe Davis

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I think I understand but just to clarify - is the offset amount actually being deducted from your pay? Or is it just showing how much of the gross up was specifically for tax purposes?

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The offset isn't actually being deducted from your pay - it's just an accounting entry to show the breakdown. Think of it this way: the gross up total ($31k in the original post) is the actual additional money you're receiving. The offset amount is just the payroll system's way of showing "this portion of the gross up was specifically calculated to cover the taxes on your relocation benefit." So you're still getting the full benefit of the gross up, but the offset helps explain where that number came from. It's confusing because it looks like a deduction, but it's really just documentation of the calculation your company used to determine how much extra to pay you.

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Nia Johnson

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This is actually a really common source of confusion! I work in HR and see this question all the time during relocation season. What you're seeing is completely normal and your company is actually doing you a huge favor. Think of it this way: without the gross up, you would have received your relocation reimbursement and then been hit with a massive tax bill at the end of the year. Instead, your company calculated how much extra they needed to pay you so that after all taxes are paid, you're essentially made whole. The $21,950 offset isn't money being taken away from you - it's just the payroll system's way of showing the math behind the gross up calculation. Your company determined they needed to pay you an additional $31,000 total to cover both your relocation costs AND all the associated taxes. Of that $31K, about $22K was specifically the "tax cushion" portion. Come tax time, yes, the full $31K will be reported as taxable income on your W-2, but remember - your company already factored that into their calculation. You should end up in roughly the same tax position as if the relocation never happened, which is the whole point of doing a gross up in the first place.

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This explanation is really helpful! I'm going through a similar situation right now and was totally panicking about the tax implications. One thing I'm still confused about though - should I expect any surprises when I file my taxes next year? Like, is there a chance the gross up calculation was wrong and I'll still owe money? My HR department keeps saying "it should all work out" but that doesn't sound very definitive to me.

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Dylan Evans

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I'm also with BoA and waiting on a 3/24 DDD! Based on what everyone's sharing here, it sounds like we're definitely waiting until the actual date. I've been checking obsessively too, but I'm going to try to be patient and just check Monday morning. One thing I noticed is that my transcript shows the 846 code with 20240324, so that seems to confirm the exact date. Has anyone else noticed if BoA sends a mobile notification when the deposit hits, or do you have to check the app manually? Trying to figure out if I'll know right away or need to keep checking throughout Monday morning.

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I have BoA and can confirm they do send push notifications for deposits! You'll get an alert as soon as it hits your account. I'd recommend enabling notifications for deposits over your refund amount - mine came through at around 2:30am on my DDD last year and woke me up with the notification (not complaining though!). The 846 code with 20240324 definitely confirms your exact date, so you're looking at Monday morning for sure.

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Logan Scott

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I'm with BoA too and have been through this waiting game before! From my experience over the past few years, they are very strict about the DDD - no early deposits like some of the other banks offer. I'd recommend checking your IRS transcript to make sure that 3/24 date is solid (look for the 846 code). If March 24th falls on a weekend, it might actually deposit on the next business day instead. The good news is BoA usually processes these early in the morning once the date hits, typically between midnight and 6am. I know the waiting is torture when you're expecting a refund, but at least with BoA you can count on it being very predictable timing-wise!

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Diego Fisher

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in the same situation as everyone here - first time dealing with BoA and a tax refund. Just checked my transcript and confirmed I have the 846 code with 20240324. March 24th is actually a Monday this year, so sounds like I should expect it early Monday morning. Thanks for mentioning the typical timing window of midnight to 6am - that helps me set realistic expectations instead of checking all day Sunday! It's reassuring to know BoA is at least predictable even if they don't do early deposits.

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just curious - how long ago did u file the injured spouse form?

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Hannah White

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about 6 weeks ago. getting impatient ngl

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Ugh I feel your pain! Same situation happened to me last year - filed jointly and got hit with the child support offset. The waiting is the worst part honestly. I ended up using taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here and it was super helpful for understanding exactly what was happening with my refund. It showed me the breakdown of how much was being taken vs what I'd actually get back. Way better than trying to decode those cryptic transcript codes myself! Hang in there, the money will come eventually šŸ¤ž

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Max Reyes

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Thanks for sharing your experience! This whole process is so stressful when you're waiting on money you need. How long did it end up taking for you to get your portion back after the offset? And was the taxr.ai thing pretty accurate with the timeline it gave you?

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Natalie Wang

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Something nobody's mentioned yet - if your sister didn't get an EIN (tax ID) for the trust, that's a bigger issue than the bank account. The trust is considered a separate taxpayer from both your sister and the original trustmakers (your parents). Without an EIN, how is she planning to file the trust tax return? And without a trust tax return, how will she generate legal K-1s? This might be why she's delayed getting you the K-1.

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Noah Torres

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Not necessarily true. If it's a revocable living trust that became irrevocable upon death, it may have been using the SSN of the grantor while they were alive. After death, THEN they need to get an EIN. Many successor trustees don't realize this change is required.

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Molly Hansen

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@f014fc63b237 You're absolutely right about the EIN requirement after death. This is such a commonly missed step! The trust becomes a separate tax entity when the grantor dies, even if it was using their SSN before. @c0c1ffde3828 Harper, you should definitely ask your sister if she obtained an EIN for the trust after your mom passed. If she hasn't, she needs to apply for one using Form SS-4 before she can file the trust return or issue proper K-1s. This could explain the delay you're experiencing. The IRS is pretty strict about this - they won't accept a trust return filed under a deceased person's SSN. Without the proper EIN and trust return, any K-1s she gives you won't be legitimate for tax purposes.

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Yara Assad

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I went through something very similar when my father passed and I was named successor trustee. The stress of not knowing if you're handling everything correctly is overwhelming, especially when you're already grieving. From my experience, your sister's approach creates unnecessary complications and potential liability issues. Even though it's not strictly illegal, mixing trust funds with personal accounts makes proper accounting much more difficult and could cause problems if the IRS ever audits the trust. Here's what I learned the hard way: Always get an EIN for the trust immediately after the grantor's death, open a separate trust checking account, and keep meticulous records of every transaction. When I sold my dad's house, I made sure the proceeds went directly into the trust account, then issued checks from that account to beneficiaries with clear documentation. The good news is that since you're the beneficiary, your main concern is getting that K-1 form so you can properly report your share on your personal return. The burden of proper trust administration falls on your sister as trustee. If she can't provide accurate documentation, that becomes her problem with the IRS, not yours. I'd strongly suggest having a gentle but firm conversation with your sister about getting professional help to clean this up properly. It's worth the cost to avoid potential headaches down the road.

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@83f8e40db21f Thank you for sharing your experience - it's reassuring to hear from someone who went through a similar situation. The stress really is overwhelming when you're trying to do right by everyone while grieving. I think you're right about having that conversation with my sister. She's been defensive when I've brought up concerns, but maybe framing it as "let's get professional help to make sure we're protected" rather than "you did this wrong" might be more productive. One question - when you say the burden falls on the trustee if there are IRS issues, does that mean I'm completely in the clear as long as I report whatever she puts on my K-1? Or could I still face problems if her accounting was sloppy and the IRS questions the distributions later? I'm hoping to avoid any complications since this whole process has already been emotionally draining for our family.

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I went through this exact scenario last year and wanted to share what I learned the hard way. You're absolutely right to be concerned - FanDuel will likely report your qualifying wins (individual wins of $600+ that are 300x your wager) on W-2G forms regardless of your net position for the year. Here's what happened to me: I had about $12,000 in reported winnings but was only net positive around $300 for the year. I initially panicked thinking I'd owe taxes on the full $12K, but here's what saved me: **Documentation is everything.** I downloaded my complete transaction history from FanDuel and created a spreadsheet showing every session - dates, amounts wagered, wins, and losses. This let me calculate my total losses to offset against the winnings. **Run the numbers both ways.** I compared taking the standard deduction vs. itemizing with gambling losses on Schedule A. In my case, since I don't have a mortgage and my other itemizable deductions were minimal, the standard deduction was still better even though it meant paying some tax on the reported winnings. **The math worked out fine.** Even paying tax on part of those "winnings," my actual tax impact was pretty small since my true profit was so low. My advice: Download your FanDuel annual statement right now, calculate your true net position, and don't panic about the gross winnings number. The tax system isn't perfect for gambling, but it's usually not as bad as it first appears when you're basically break-even for the year. Good luck with tax season!

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This is such a relief to hear from someone who actually went through the same situation! I was honestly losing sleep over this thinking I'd get hit with taxes on the full $13,500 when I'm barely ahead. Your point about the math usually working out even with the standard deduction makes me feel a lot better. Quick question - when you downloaded your FanDuel annual statement, did it clearly show your total deposits vs withdrawals for the year? I'm hoping that makes it easy to prove my actual net position if I ever need to explain this to a tax professional or the IRS. Also, do you remember roughly what percentage of your reported winnings you ended up paying tax on after taking the standard deduction? Thanks for sharing your real-world experience - this is way more helpful than trying to decode IRS publications!

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Yes, the FanDuel annual statement was really clear! It shows your total deposits, withdrawals, and net position right at the top, which makes it super easy to document your actual profit/loss for the year. I'd definitely recommend downloading it ASAP since they sometimes make older statements harder to access. As for the tax impact, I ended up paying tax on probably about 60-70% of my reported W-2G winnings since I took the standard deduction. But since my true net was only around $300, even paying tax on a few thousand dollars of "winnings" only added maybe $400-500 to my tax bill. Not fun, but not the disaster I thought it would be. The key insight I learned is that the IRS system treats each winning session as separate taxable income, but the actual dollar impact isn't usually catastrophic when your net position is small. Just make sure you have that documentation ready - the annual statement plus screenshots of your account summary should cover you if you ever need to explain your situation.

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I just went through this exact situation last year and want to give you some realistic perspective. FanDuel will indeed report your qualifying winnings (typically $600+ wins that are 300x your wager) on W-2G forms, so you'll likely see tax documents showing that $13,500 even though you're only up $200 net. Here's what I learned: Yes, you have to report all those winnings as income, but you can deduct your losses up to the amount of winnings IF you itemize on Schedule A. The key decision is whether itemizing beats your standard deduction (~$13,850 for single filers). My advice: Download your complete FanDuel transaction history RIGHT NOW and save it in multiple places. Take screenshots of your account showing total deposits vs withdrawals. Most people in your situation (small net gain, no mortgage) end up better off with the standard deduction, which means paying some tax on the reported winnings but usually not a huge amount. Don't panic about the gross winnings number - when your true profit is only $200, even paying tax on several thousand in "winnings" typically adds just a few hundred to your tax bill, not thousands. The system isn't perfect for gambling, but it's rarely as catastrophic as it first appears when you're basically break-even. Get your documentation organized now and you'll be fine come tax season!

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Lia Quinn

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This is exactly the kind of realistic perspective I needed to hear! I've been stressing about this for weeks thinking I'd be on the hook for taxes on the full $13,500. Your point about it typically adding just a few hundred to the tax bill rather than thousands is really reassuring. I'm definitely going to download everything from FanDuel today - you're not the first person to emphasize getting that documentation saved ASAP. One thing I'm curious about though - when you say "qualifying winnings," do you know if there's an easy way to estimate how much of my total winnings will actually get reported on W-2G forms? I had a lot of smaller wins throughout the year mixed in with some bigger ones, so I'm wondering if I can get a rough idea of my actual tax exposure before I talk to a tax professional. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's so much more helpful hearing from someone who actually went through this rather than trying to decipher IRS guidelines!

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