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My wife's W2 is missing the box 13 retirement plan checkmark - can we still claim IRA deduction?

My wife has been contributing to her company 401k for the past year, but I just noticed while going through our tax paperwork that her W2 doesn't have box 13 (retirement plan) checked. The retirement contributions are listed in box 14, but that important checkmark is missing. I'm really concerned because I contribute to a traditional IRA and we file jointly. From what I understand, this box 13 being checked impacts my ability to deduct my IRA contributions on our taxes. When I was entering everything into FreeTaxUSA, it specifically asked about this box being checked. My wife reached out to her HR department about this, and they basically brushed it off saying "as long as box 14 shows the retirement contributions, you can just say box 13 is checked on your tax return." This doesn't seem right to me. Should we push harder for a corrected W2-C from her employer? I don't want to create issues with her work, but I also don't want us to have problems with our tax return or miss out on deductions we're entitled to. Has anyone dealt with this before?

Quick question - does anyone know if there are penalties for the employer for not checking Box 13 correctly? My husband's W2 has the same issue and his company is being difficult about issuing a correction. I'm wondering if mentioning potential penalties might get them to take action.

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Yes, employers can face penalties for filing incorrect W-2 forms. The IRS can charge them $290 per incorrect form for 2024 returns (filed in 2025). If they're found to have intentionally disregarded the requirements, the penalty jumps to $580 per form. Might be worth mentioning this when you request the correction!

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I work in tax compliance and want to emphasize something important that hasn't been fully addressed here. While everyone's right that the IRS cares about actual participation over checkboxes, having mismatched documentation can absolutely trigger audit flags. If your W-2 shows Box 14 retirement contributions but Box 13 isn't checked, and then you report on your tax return that your wife IS covered by a retirement plan (which you should, since it's factually correct), that inconsistency could flag your return for review. The IRS systems do cross-reference these things. Beyond the IRA deduction implications, this could also affect other tax benefits like the Retirement Savings Credit if your income qualifies. Getting the W-2C isn't just about being technically correct - it's about having clean documentation that matches your tax filing. I'd strongly recommend being persistent with HR. Frame it as a compliance issue rather than a personal inconvenience. Most payroll departments understand compliance language better than tax impact language.

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IRS Code 810 on transcript - Anyone know what this freeze means?

Just checked my transcripts and noticed code 810 popped up last week. Been checking the IRS website but can't find a straight answer. Starting to get worried about my refund. Anyone dealt with this before?

I got hit with Code 810 about 6 weeks ago and was losing sleep over it! Turns out it was just because I had multiple W-2s and they needed to verify my income matched what I reported. The not knowing was driving me crazy until I found out about taxr.ai through this community - seriously a game changer! It analyzed my transcript and told me exactly what was being reviewed and gave me a realistic timeline. Cost me $5 but saved me weeks of anxiety and countless hours on hold with the IRS. My freeze actually cleared last week, so there's definitely hope! Hang in there Mei, these 810 codes are super common this year especially with EIC claims. ๐Ÿ’ช

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Thank you so much for this! ๐Ÿ™ It's such a relief to hear from someone who actually went through this and came out the other side. The not knowing is definitely the worst part - I keep refreshing my transcript like it's gonna magically change lol. Really appreciate you mentioning taxr.ai, seems like everyone here has had good luck with it. Gonna give it a try since $5 is way better than the stress I've been putting myself through. Thanks for giving me hope that this will actually resolve! ๐Ÿ˜Š

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I've been dealing with Code 810 for about 5 weeks now and it's been such a rollercoaster! Initially I was panicking thinking I did something wrong on my return, but after reading through all these responses I feel so much better knowing it's just routine verification. I filed with EIC and child tax credit so that definitely explains it. The hardest part is just not knowing what's happening or how long it'll take. Seeing everyone mention taxr.ai has me curious - might be worth the $5 just for peace of mind since I've probably lost that much in productivity from constantly worrying about this lol. Thanks to everyone sharing their experiences, it really helps to know we're not alone in this! The IRS needs to do better with communication but at least we have this community to support each other through the waiting game ๐Ÿค

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You're definitely not alone in this! I just got my first 810 code a few days ago and was spiraling until I found this thread. It's crazy how the IRS can just freeze your refund with basically zero explanation - like at least send us a quick "hey we're just double checking your EIC claim, sit tight" message or something ๐Ÿ˜… But seriously, seeing everyone's experiences here has been such a lifesaver. Sounds like taxr.ai might be worth checking out since waiting in the dark is honestly the worst part of all this. Thanks for sharing your story, it really does help to know we're all going through the same thing! ๐Ÿ™

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How to know if IRS sending check vs direct deposit? WMR not updated but transcript shows refund

My transcript updated today showing a refund but Where's My Refund tool still shows processing. Does anyone know how to tell if they're mailing a check or doing direct deposit? Getting anxious because I really need this money.

psst... call your local tax advocate. they can tell you exactly wuts happening

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good luck getting thru tho. been on hold for 2 hrs today already

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Been dealing with this exact same issue! My transcript shows 846 code but WMR is still stuck on "processing" - it's so frustrating when you need that money ASAP. From what I've learned lurking here, if your transcript doesn't show "DPC" next to the 846 code, you're probably getting a paper check. Also check if there's any freeze codes (like 971 or 570) that might indicate why they switched from DD to check. The IRS systems are definitely not synced up properly between transcript and WMR updates ๐Ÿ™„

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@Lourdes Fox from my experience last year, once you see the 846 code on your transcript, paper checks usually take about 7-10 business days to arrive by mail. Sometimes faster if you re'close to the processing center, sometimes longer during busy periods. The frustrating part is there s'really no way to track it once it s'mailed - just gotta wait for it to show up in your mailbox ๐Ÿ“ฌ I know it sucks when you need the money urgently but at least you know it s'coming!

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@Lourdes Fox From what I ve'experienced and seen others post, paper checks usually take 5-7 business days to arrive once the 846 code posts to your transcript. Sometimes up to 10 days if there s'any mail delays. The 846 date is when they actually cut/mail the check, not when you ll'receive it. I know the wait is brutal when you re'counting on that money! You could also try calling the refund hotline at 1-800-829-1954 but expect long hold times. They can sometimes give you more specific timing info.

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Reached Social Security limit and switched jobs - do I need to pay SS at new employer?

So I hit the Social Security tax cap for 2023 at my previous company, but I recently started a new job and noticed they're taking out Social Security taxes from my paychecks. This doesn't seem right since I've already paid the maximum for the year. I have a few questions about this situation: Can I somehow get my new employer to stop withholding Social Security tax since I've already hit the limit? Is there any way to get back the extra Social Security that's being withheld before I file my taxes next year? Would rather not wait until refund time. If I can't get it back right away, does the Social Security overpayment reduce my income tax bill? Maybe I could adjust my W-4 to lower my income tax withholding to effectively get that money back sooner. I know I'll need to start paying the Additional Medicare tax at my new job, but they wouldn't know about my previous employment. Does the Social Security overpayment situation affect how Medicare taxes are calculated? This is frustrating because I'm essentially lending the government money interest-free until tax time if I can't fix it now.

I went through this exact situation two years ago and it was definitely frustrating! Just to add some practical advice to what others have shared: When calculating your W-4 adjustment, don't forget to account for the timing. If you're late in the year when you start the new job, you might be overwithholding SS tax for only a few months, so the adjustment per paycheck will be larger than if you had the whole year. Also, keep detailed records of all your paystubs from both employers. When you file your taxes, you'll need to show the total SS tax withheld across all employers on Schedule 3. The IRS computer systems will automatically calculate the overpayment, but having good records makes the process smoother. One thing I learned: if you're getting a large refund due to SS overwithholding, consider adjusting your withholding for the following year too. The IRS withholding calculator can help you optimize this so you're not giving the government an interest-free loan. The Medicare tax situation is separate - each employer will withhold the additional 0.9% Medicare tax once YOUR wages with THAT employer exceed $200K, regardless of your other job. So if you have two jobs paying $150K each, neither employer will withhold the additional Medicare tax even though your combined income exceeds the threshold. You'll owe this when you file your return.

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This is a really comprehensive thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now and wanted to add one more perspective. I hit the SS limit at my previous job in October and started a new position in November. What I found helpful was creating a simple spreadsheet to track exactly how much SS tax was being overwitheld each pay period at the new job. This made it much easier to calculate the precise W-4 adjustment needed. For anyone in this situation, here's what I learned: You can use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator (https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator) which has a specific section for situations like this. It asks about job changes during the year and can calculate the optimal withholding settings to account for SS overwithholding. The estimator recommended I claim additional dependents on my W-4 to reduce income tax withholding rather than trying to manipulate line 4(c). This approach felt more "by the book" and my payroll department was completely comfortable with it. One heads up though - if you're getting a significant refund due to SS overwithholding, you might want to make estimated tax payments for the following year if you expect to owe taxes. The IRS can assess penalties if you don't pay enough during the year, even if it's because you're used to getting large refunds from SS overwithholding.

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This is such helpful advice about using the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator! I'm actually dealing with this exact situation right now - started a new job in December after hitting the SS limit at my previous employer in November. Your point about creating a spreadsheet to track the overwithholding is really smart. I've been trying to do the math in my head and keep getting confused. Did you just calculate SS tax rate (6.2%) times your gross pay for each paycheck to figure out how much was being overwitheld? Also, when you say the estimator recommended claiming additional dependents - were you able to do that even if you don't actually have additional dependents? I thought that could cause issues with the IRS if you're claiming dependents you don't actually have. The point about estimated payments for next year is something I hadn't considered. Since I'm expecting a large refund this year due to the SS overwithholding, I should probably be more proactive about withholding for 2024. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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@Elliott luviBorBatman Yes, exactly! For the spreadsheet, I calculated 6.2% of my gross pay for each paycheck to determine the SS overwithholding amount. Then I multiplied that by the number of remaining pay periods to get my total expected overwithholding for the year. Regarding the dependents - you re'absolutely right to question this. The IRS withholding estimator doesn t'actually recommend claiming fake dependents. What it does is calculate the optimal withholding allowances/settings based on your total tax situation. In the old W-4 system, this might have translated to claiming "more allowances, but" with the current W-4, it adjusts the numbers in Step 3 dependents (and) Step 4 other (adjustments to) achieve the right withholding amount. The key is that the estimator is calculating your actual expected tax liability and working backward to determine the right withholding settings. So you re'not claiming dependents you don t'have - you re'using the W-4 system as designed to achieve accurate withholding given your unique circumstances the (SS overwithholding .)For 2024 planning, definitely run the estimator again early in the year, especially if you expect to stay at the same job all year. Your withholding needs will be completely different when you re'not dealing with the job change/SS overwithholding situation.

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Should I include Form 5329 with taxes if I already filed one separately?

So I messed up part of my Required Minimum Distribution for 2023 because my December payment didn't actually clear until January 2024. I already sent in a paper Form 5329 back in January requesting a penalty abatement for this mistake. Now I'm doing my 2023 taxes using TurboTax, and it's automatically generating another Form 5329 to include with my e-filed return. The form looks correct - it shows the missed RMD amount written to the side of line 54 and has a "0" entered on line 54 itself, indicating I'm asking for the penalty to be waived. What I'm confused about is whether I should still include this Form 5329 with my e-filed tax return since I already submitted one separately? Or should I somehow remove it from my TurboTax return before e-filing? Don't want to cause confusion with the IRS by submitting the same form twice!

Just throwing this out there - I made the mistake of NOT including Form 5329 with my tax return in a similar situation (had already mailed it separately). Ended up getting a confusing notice from the IRS 6 months later suggesting I hadn't requested the waiver at all! Had to call and explain everything all over again. Better to include all relevant forms with your tax return, even if redundant. Makes your return complete and consistent. TurboTax is actually doing you a favor by generating it correctly!

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Did the IRS eventually waive your penalty? I'm curious how long the whole process took from start to finish.

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Based on all the discussion here, I'm convinced that including the Form 5329 with your tax return is the right move, even though you already submitted one separately. The consistency between both forms (showing the missed RMD amount and requesting the penalty waiver) actually strengthens your case. What really helped me understand this was seeing how other people handled similar situations. The key seems to be that the IRS systems are designed to handle these types of duplicate submissions, and having the form included with your complete tax return creates a more comprehensive record. Since TurboTax is generating the form correctly with the proper notation (missed RMD amount to the side of line 54 and "0" on line 54), I'd go ahead and include it. The worst case scenario is redundancy, which is much better than having an incomplete return that might trigger confusing notices later. Your situation with the December payment not clearing until January is a classic example of reasonable cause, so documenting it consistently across both submissions should work in your favor for the penalty waiver.

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