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Just wanted to add one important thing - if your dependent kid has any investment income (like a custodial account or savings interest), the rules get more complicated. If they have both earned income (W2) AND investment income over $1,150, you might have to deal with the "kiddie tax" where some of their investment income is taxed at YOUR tax rate.
Wait, really? My daughter also has a savings account that my parents set up that earned like $320 in interest last year. Does that complicate things even though it's a pretty small amount?
Since your daughter's interest income is only $320, you don't need to worry about the kiddie tax complications. The rules only kick in when unearned income (like interest) exceeds $2,300 for 2024. Since she's under that threshold, she can just report both the W2 income and the interest income on her own simple return. Just make sure she receives the 1099-INT from the bank for that interest income and includes it on her return along with her W2. And remember, you can still claim her as your dependent if she meets the other qualifying requirements.
If your daughter is in college, don't forget to look into education credits when you file your taxes! Even though her W2 goes on her return, you can claim the American Opportunity Credit or Lifetime Learning Credit on YOUR return if you're claiming her as a dependent and paying her tuition. That's worth up to $2,500 depending on your situation!
This is so confusing to me. So the kid files their own W2 income, but the parent claims the education stuff? How does TaxSlayer handle this split situation?
Has anyone used both TurboTax and H&R Block software to check how they handle this specific situation? I tried calculating this in TurboTax and it seemed to reduce my SEP contribution limit by my K1 losses, which sounds wrong based on what everyone is saying here.
I checked both last year with a similar situation. H&R Block Premium actually handled it correctly - kept my K1 losses separate from my Schedule C income for SEP calculation. TurboTax Deluxe got it wrong but TurboTax Self-Employed got it right. Might depend on which version you're using?
Just wanted to add some real-world validation to this thread. I'm a CPA and see this exact situation frequently with clients who have multiple business entities. The advice given here is correct - your K1 partnership loss does NOT reduce your Schedule C income for SEP IRA contribution purposes. The key distinction is that SEP IRAs are employer-sponsored retirement plans, even when you're self-employed. Your sole proprietorship acts as both employer and employee, allowing you to make contributions based on that specific business's net earnings. The partnership is a separate legal entity that would need its own retirement plan structure. I always tell clients to think of each business entity as having its own "retirement bucket." Your Schedule C business has one bucket, your partnership has another (which typically can't contribute to your individual SEP anyway), and any W-2 employment would have yet another bucket. So yes, use the full $12,400 from your sole proprietorship as your SEP contribution basis. Just remember the actual contribution limit is slightly less than 20% due to the self-employment tax adjustment - closer to 18.587% of your net Schedule C profit.
This is incredibly helpful - thank you for the professional validation! As someone new to navigating multiple business entities, I've been so confused about how these "buckets" work. Your explanation about each entity having its own retirement structure makes it click for me. Quick follow-up question: when you mention the 18.587% adjustment for self-employment tax, is that something that gets calculated automatically in tax software, or do I need to manually compute that reduction? I want to make sure I'm not over-contributing to my SEP IRA.
I went through this exact same situation last year with my rental property HVAC replacement! The 27.5 year depreciation schedule definitely feels disconnected from reality when you know these systems typically last 12-15 years. What helped me was understanding that you have options when the old system is removed. You can elect to "dispose" of the remaining undepreciated basis of the old HVAC system, which allows you to deduct that remaining value in the year of replacement rather than continuing to depreciate something that no longer exists. For your $9,800 replacement, make sure you keep detailed records of the removal and installation. The IRS requires documentation that the old system was actually removed/disposed of to claim the remaining depreciation as a loss. Also, consider whether any portion of the work might qualify as repairs under the safe harbor election for small taxpayers (if your average annual gross receipts are $27M or less). Things like ductwork cleaning or minor component replacements might be immediately deductible rather than depreciable. The key is proper documentation and potentially working with a tax professional who understands rental property depreciation rules. The initial investment in good advice can save you thousands over the depreciation period.
This is really helpful! I'm actually in a similar situation with an old boiler system that needs replacing in my rental duplex. When you say "elect to dispose" of the remaining undepreciated basis, is this something you have to formally file with the IRS or is it just how you report it on your tax return? And did you need any special forms beyond the usual depreciation schedules? I'm also curious about the documentation requirements you mentioned. Did you need receipts showing the old system was hauled away, or photographs, or just the invoices from the HVAC contractor showing removal and installation as separate line items?
For the partial disposition election, you don't need to file anything special with the IRS - it's handled on your regular tax return. You'll report it on Form 4797 (Sales of Business Property) as a loss from the disposition of the old system, and then start fresh depreciation on the new system using Form 4562. The documentation is crucial though. I kept copies of the contractor invoices that clearly showed "removal of existing HVAC system" and "installation of new system" as separate line items. I also took photos of the old system before removal and kept the disposal receipt from the scrap yard where the old unit was taken. The IRS wants proof that the old asset was actually retired from service, not just replaced in place. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure your contractor itemizes the removal costs separately if possible. Sometimes you can treat removal costs as part of the disposal rather than adding them to the basis of the new system, which can be more beneficial tax-wise. Definitely worth discussing with a tax pro since the rules around partial dispositions can get pretty technical!
Just wanted to share my experience since I dealt with this exact situation last month. I also inherited a rental property with an aging HVAC system that needed replacement. The most important thing I learned is that you absolutely want to make the partial disposition election for the old system when you replace it. This lets you write off whatever depreciation is left on the old HVAC immediately instead of continuing to depreciate a system that's sitting in a landfill somewhere. For your situation with a system installed around 2012, you'll likely have a decent amount of undepreciated basis left that you can deduct. My tax preparer calculated that I saved about $1,800 in taxes the first year just from properly handling the disposal of the old system. One tip that saved me money: ask your HVAC contractor to break out the removal/disposal costs separately on their invoice. Those costs can often be deducted immediately rather than added to the depreciable basis of the new system. The 27.5 year schedule is definitely frustrating given real-world equipment lifespans, but at least the partial disposition rules help make it more reasonable when you have to replace things early. Document everything and definitely consider getting professional help for this one - the tax savings usually justify the cost of good advice.
Has anyone tried handling this through tax software? I had a similar 1099-R situation last year and TurboTax kept wanting to tax the distribution even though it shouldn't have been taxable.
I used H&R Block software for a similar situation and had to manually override it. There should be an option to specify that the distribution isn't taxable despite what the 1099-R coding suggests. You might need to include an explanation or use the tax software's "notes" feature to document why you're treating it differently than the standard interpretation of the form.
I went through almost the exact same situation last year with a 1099-R Code E from my 401k plan. The IRS sent me a notice saying I owed taxes on what was clearly a return of my after-tax contributions. What worked for me was calling my 401k plan administrator first to get written documentation that these were indeed excess after-tax contributions being returned. They provided a letter explaining the distribution and confirming that Box 5 represented my cost basis (money I'd already paid taxes on). I then sent this documentation to the IRS along with a letter explaining that this was a non-taxable return of basis. The key is being very clear that Box 1 and Box 5 being equal means the entire amount represents already-taxed contributions. It took about 8 weeks, but the IRS eventually agreed and removed the tax liability. Don't panic - this is definitely a common misunderstanding on their automated system's part. Just make sure you have good documentation from your plan administrator to back up your position.
This is exactly the approach I would recommend! Getting documentation directly from your plan administrator is crucial because it provides official verification of what the distribution actually represents. The IRS automated systems often flag these distributions incorrectly, but having that written confirmation from the plan makes your case much stronger. Did you have to follow up with the IRS at all during those 8 weeks, or did they just eventually send you a notice that the issue was resolved? I'm dealing with something similar and wondering if I should expect to hear back within a certain timeframe.
NebulaNinja
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Yara Haddad
Code 571 means they lifted any previous hold on your return, and 846 is definitely your refund release date! February 14th should be when it hits your account (or within 1-2 business days). The transcript is way more reliable than WMR - I've seen people get their money while WMR still shows "processing" for weeks. You're in the home stretch! π
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Diego FernΓ‘ndez
β’This is super helpful! I'm new here and just filed my first return with EIC. My transcript is still blank but seeing everyone's experiences with the codes gives me hope. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly! π
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