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One thing no one has mentioned - if you change your W-4 now mid-year, your withholding will only be adjusted for the remaining paychecks this year. This might mean you need to withhold a little extra to make up for the earlier part of the year where you were withholding at the Single rate. The IRS withholding calculator actually accounts for this if you enter your withholding to date, which is super helpful. It calculates a "catch up" amount for the rest of the year. Also, don't panic too much about getting it exactly right. You can always adjust again in a few months if your paychecks look too big or too small. The goal is to get within about $1,000 of your actual tax liability - you don't want a huge refund or a huge bill.

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This is such an important point! I changed my W-4 in October last year thinking it would fix everything, but it didn't withhold enough to make up for the first 9 months. The "catch up" approach is key.

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Chloe Green

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Great question and congrats on the marriage! I went through this exact situation a few years ago. One thing I learned the hard way is that the "Married" filing status on your W-4 is designed for traditional single-earner households, so it can really mess you up when both spouses work. With your incomes being so similar ($58k and $65k), you're definitely at risk of underwithholding if you both just switch to "Married" on your W-4s. Your coworker's experience is unfortunately pretty common. My recommendation: either keep your current "Single" status or switch to "Married but withhold at higher Single rate" - both will give you similar results. The key is that you want higher withholding when you're both working, not lower. Another tip - run your numbers through the IRS withholding calculator in January after you get your final paystubs from this year. That way you can set your 2026 withholding perfectly from the start instead of trying to catch up mid-year. You're smart to think about this now rather than getting surprised next April!

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This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat - just got married a few months ago and have been putting off dealing with the W-4 situation because it seemed so complicated. The point about the "Married" status being designed for single-earner households makes so much sense now. Quick question - when you say "switch to Married but withhold at higher Single rate," is that literally just checking a different box on the W-4, or do you have to do additional calculations? My HR department isn't super helpful with tax questions, so I want to make sure I'm filling it out right. Also, did you notice a big difference in your take-home pay when you made the switch?

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Has anyone actually successfully amended their return after paying the amount on a CP23? I'm in a similar situation but I already paid what they asked because I was scared of penalties, and now I'm trying to figure out how to get my money back by providing the missing documentation.

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Emma Davis

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Yes! I paid first and then filed a 1040-X with the missing documentation. Got my refund about 4 months later. The key is to write "CP23 RESPONSE" in red at the top of your 1040-X and include a copy of the original notice. Make it super clear you're not making new changes but correcting an issue they identified.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now! Also on a J-1 visa and just became a tax resident for 2024. The transition from nonresident to resident status creates so much confusion with the withholding forms. One thing I learned from my tax advisor is that you should definitely mention in your response letter that you're a tax resident filing Form 1040 even though you received a 1042-S. The IRS systems sometimes flag this as inconsistent, so explaining the visa status change and why the university issued the 1042-S (before they knew about your resident status) helps prevent further confusion. Also, if you have any documentation from your university showing when they became aware of your tax resident status, include that too. It helps explain the timeline and why the withholding was processed differently than your filing status. Good luck with your response! The stress is real but it sounds like you have a clear path forward.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm also dealing with the J-1 to resident transition confusion. Did your tax advisor give you any specific language to use when explaining the visa status change? I want to make sure I'm being clear about why I have a 1042-S but filed as a resident without making it sound like I made an error in my filing status determination. Also, what kind of documentation from the university would be most helpful? I have emails where I notified them about my status change, but I'm not sure if that's sufficient or if I need something more official.

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NebulaNomad

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Welcome to the community! As someone new here who's been following this incredibly thorough discussion, I'm amazed at how comprehensive this thread has become for anyone dealing with overseas precious metals storage questions. I'm actually facing a similar situation with silver stored in New Zealand, and after reading through everyone's experiences, I finally understand why the IRS guidance seemed so confusing when I tried to research this on my own. The key insight that's emerged here is that it's not just about owning precious metals overseas - it's about the specific nature of your custodial relationship and what authority the storage company has over your assets. The evaluation framework that's developed throughout this discussion (Can they sell on verbal instruction? Do they have trading authority? Is your metal segregated or pooled? How do you actually interact with them over time?) provides such a clear way to analyze these situations. It's so much more practical than trying to interpret the general IRS rules in isolation. What really stands out to me is the consistent emphasis on professional guidance given the severe FBAR penalties - up to $10,000+ for non-willful violations is definitely not worth risking by trying to navigate these complex rules alone. The investment in expert analysis of your specific documents and circumstances clearly pays for itself in peace of mind and compliance certainty. The practical resources shared here for document analysis and actually reaching IRS specialists have also been incredibly valuable. As someone who was dreading the thought of trying to get answers through normal IRS channels, knowing there are effective solutions available is such a relief. Thanks to everyone for creating what's essentially become the definitive guide for overseas precious metals reporting requirements. This discussion has probably saved countless people from compliance headaches and potential penalties!

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Welcome to the community, NebulaNomad! Your situation with silver in New Zealand fits perfectly into the comprehensive framework this discussion has developed. It's really exciting to see how this thread has evolved into such a valuable resource for newcomers dealing with these complex international reporting requirements. New Zealand has excellent precious metals storage facilities, and their regulatory environment is generally very transparent, which should help when you're analyzing your specific custodial arrangement using the evaluation criteria everyone has outlined here. The key questions about verbal selling authority, trading capabilities, segregation, and usage patterns should be relatively straightforward to answer with good documentation from a reputable NZ storage provider. What I find most impressive about this discussion is how it's moved beyond just answering the original question to creating a complete roadmap for anyone facing similar situations. The emphasis on documentation, professional guidance, and understanding that your actual relationship with the custodian matters as much as the contract terms has been incredibly enlightening. Given the consensus about those steep FBAR penalties and the complexity involved, you're definitely taking the right approach by seeking to understand your situation thoroughly before making compliance decisions. The resources mentioned throughout this thread should give you some excellent options for getting professional analysis specific to your NZ silver arrangement. Thanks for adding your perspective - it's wonderful to see this community continuing to help people navigate these intricate international tax requirements!

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Omar Fawaz

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As a newcomer to this community, I want to thank everyone for creating such an incredibly comprehensive discussion! I'm dealing with a similar situation with gold stored in Dubai, and this thread has been more educational than anything I could find in official IRS guidance. What's really helped me understand the complexity is seeing how the determination isn't just about owning precious metals overseas, but about the specific custodial relationship and authorities involved. The evaluation framework that's emerged here - examining verbal selling authority, trading capabilities, segregation vs pooling, and actual usage patterns over time - provides such a clear structure for analysis. I'm particularly grateful for the warnings about FBAR penalties reaching $10,000+ for non-willful violations. That really puts the importance of getting this right into perspective. The consistent advice throughout this thread about seeking professional guidance rather than trying to interpret these nuanced rules yourself makes perfect sense given those stakes. The practical resources mentioned here for document analysis and reaching IRS specialists are also incredibly valuable. As someone who was feeling overwhelmed by the compliance requirements, knowing there are effective tools and services specifically designed for these complex international situations is really reassuring. This discussion has essentially become a masterclass in foreign precious metals reporting requirements. The combination of real-world experiences, professional insights, specific resources, and clear guidance about documentation and next steps has created an invaluable resource that's probably saved many people from costly compliance mistakes. Thank you to everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences - this community is incredibly helpful for navigating these complex international tax issues!

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TechNinja

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Welcome to the community, Omar! Your situation with gold in Dubai is fascinating and adds another important geographic dimension to this comprehensive discussion. Dubai has become a major precious metals hub with some very sophisticated storage facilities, so you'll likely have excellent documentation to work with when applying the evaluation framework everyone has developed here. What strikes me about your situation is that Dubai's regulatory environment for precious metals is quite well-established, which should help clarify the nature of your custodial relationship. The key questions we've all been discussing - about verbal selling authority, trading capabilities, segregation arrangements, and usage patterns - should be relatively straightforward to answer with proper documentation from a reputable Dubai storage provider. I'm also a newcomer here, and like you, I've been amazed at how this thread has evolved from a single question into what's essentially become the definitive guide for overseas precious metals reporting requirements. The emphasis on professional guidance given those steep FBAR penalties really resonates - $10,000+ for non-willful violations is definitely not worth risking by trying to navigate these complex rules alone. The resources mentioned throughout this discussion for getting expert analysis of your specific documents seem particularly important for Dubai arrangements, given the unique aspects of UAE financial regulations. Thanks for adding the Dubai perspective to this already incredibly comprehensive resource - this community has been such an amazing help for all of us dealing with these intricate international compliance questions!

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Pro tip: Take pictures of everything you bring and get the name of who helps you. Makes following up way easier if theres any issues

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Smart! Will do that for sure

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Just went through this process 2 months ago! Definitely bring originals of everything - photo ID, Social Security card, and all tax documents. They're pretty strict about having physical copies. Also, if you filed jointly and your spouse isn't there, bring a signed Form 8821 or power of attorney. The wait time varies wildly by office - some people get through in 30 mins, others wait 3+ hours. Good luck tomorrow! šŸ¤ž

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Former bank employee here. We would see this situation all the time with home purchases. From a practical standpoint, using a single cashier's check is easier for everyone involved. Here's what you should know: 1. For married couples, money moving between spouses isn't a taxable event 2. The title company doesn't care where the funds come from as long as they clear 3. Keep documentation showing the source of funds (partner's withdrawal and your deposit) This is a common practice and won't cause any tax issues. Just make sure you keep records of the transfer in case you're ever asked about it.

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Emma Wilson

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What kind of documentation would you recommend keeping? Would bank statements be enough? And how long should we keep these records?

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Bank statements showing the withdrawal from your partner's account and the deposit into yours would be perfect. Also keep the receipt from the cashier's check and any closing documents that show what the money was used for. I recommend keeping these records for at least 7 years, which aligns with the IRS statute of limitations for most tax situations. Store them with your other home purchase documents, which you should keep for the entire time you own the home anyway.

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Malik Davis

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My wife and I did exactly this when buying our house last year. Her parents gifted her $30k for the down payment, which she deposited into my account, and I wrote one big cashier's check for the closing. No tax issues at all. Just make sure you keep documentation showing where the money came from. Our mortgage lender wanted to see statements showing the source of the funds, but once we provided that, everything was smooth sailing.

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Didn't the gift from her parents trigger gift tax issues though? I thought there were limits on how much you can receive as a gift.

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