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As someone who's been through a similar experience, I want to emphasize that what you're describing is NOT normal and you shouldn't accept it as "just how the industry works." I started at a firm with minimal training 5 years ago and made the mistake of thinking it was my fault for not picking things up fast enough. The reality is that tax work has serious consequences - we're dealing with people's financial lives and potential penalties/audits. Any firm that doesn't prioritize proper training is being irresponsible with both their staff and their clients. A few practical suggestions while you're in this situation: - Ask your supervisor for specific written procedures for common tasks - Request to shadow experienced staff on complex returns before doing them solo - If they refuse additional training, document these conversations for your own protection The tax software issue is particularly concerning - most reputable firms provide software training as a bare minimum. Consider reaching out to the software vendor's support team directly; many offer free training webinars for users. Start your job search now but be strategic about timing. The accounting world is smaller than you think, and how you handle this situation will follow you. When interviewing, ask detailed questions about training programs - good firms will have structured answers and won't be offended by the question. You deserve better than this, and there are firms out there that actually invest in developing their people properly.
This is such valuable perspective, thank you for sharing. The point about tax work having serious consequences really hits home - I've been losing sleep worrying about making errors on client returns. Your suggestion about requesting written procedures is brilliant; I've been relying on verbal instructions that are often incomplete or conflicting. I tried reaching out to our tax software support team last week and they were actually very helpful! They offered to set up a one-on-one training session at no cost to the firm. When I mentioned this to my supervisor, they seemed surprised that this was even an option. It makes me wonder what other resources are available that the firm just isn't utilizing. The documentation advice keeps coming up in these comments and I'm definitely going to start doing that. It's unfortunate that I need to protect myself this way, but better safe than sorry.
This thread has been incredibly eye-opening and validating. I'm dealing with a similar situation at a smaller CPA firm where I started two months ago. Like the original poster, I was basically given a desk and told to "figure it out" during my first week. What's been most frustrating is that when I do ask questions, I get responses like "just do what we did last year" without any explanation of WHY certain decisions were made or what regulations we're following. I've been making errors on returns and then getting criticized for not being "detail-oriented enough" when the real issue is that I don't understand the underlying concepts. The resources mentioned here (especially the software vendor training) are things I never would have thought to pursue on my own. It's concerning that firms aren't proactively offering these basic supports to new hires. I'm definitely going to start documenting my requests for training and the responses I receive. Has anyone had experience bringing up these training deficiencies during performance reviews? I have one coming up next month and I'm trying to figure out how to advocate for better support without sounding like I'm making excuses for my mistakes.
I'm in a very similar boat - started at a small firm 6 weeks ago and it's been overwhelming. For your performance review, I'd suggest framing it as a discussion about professional development rather than criticism of current practices. Something like "I'm committed to improving my accuracy and efficiency - what specific training opportunities or resources would you recommend to help me reach the standards you expect?" This shows initiative while still highlighting the gap. You could also mention the software training resources others have found - it demonstrates you're being proactive about learning. I've found that supervisors respond better when you present solutions alongside the problems. Just my two cents from someone figuring this out too!
This is such a thoughtful way to handle your stepchild's survivor benefits! I went through something similar when my sister passed and I became guardian of her two kids. A few practical tips from my experience: When you open the CDs, bring your stepchild's Social Security card and specifically tell the bank representative that this is a custodial account funded with the child's survivor benefits. Ask them to read back to you exactly whose SSN will be the primary tax ID on the account - this saved me from the reporting headache others mentioned. Also, keep detailed records of where the money comes from (survivor benefits) and what it's used for. I created a simple spreadsheet tracking the monthly survivor benefit deposits and any transfers to CDs or other investments. This documentation was really helpful when I had questions about dependency status and support calculations. One thing that surprised me was that some banks have special "Representative Payee" account types specifically for people managing Social Security benefits for others. These accounts are designed to keep the beneficiary's funds separate and ensure proper tax reporting. You might want to ask if your bank offers this option. The dependency and tax credit questions you're asking are exactly the right ones - it shows you're being really careful about doing this properly!
Thank you for mentioning the Representative Payee accounts! I had no idea these existed. This sounds like exactly what we need to avoid any confusion about whose money is whose. I'm definitely going to ask our bank about this option when we set up the CDs. The spreadsheet idea is brilliant too. I've been pretty casual about tracking the survivor benefits since we just started receiving them, but you're right that having clear documentation will be important for tax purposes and if anyone ever questions the dependency status. Did you find that having the Representative Payee account made tax filing easier? I'm wondering if it automatically ensures the proper SSN gets used for tax reporting.
I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my stepson's survivor benefits, so this thread has been incredibly helpful! One thing I learned from our tax preparer that might be useful - even though Social Security survivor benefits don't count toward the support test for dependency, you should still keep records of how much you're actually spending on your stepchild's care (food, housing, medical, etc.) versus the amount of their survivor benefits. The IRS can sometimes look at the total picture if there are questions, and showing that you're providing the majority of their actual support (even though the benefits don't count against dependency) can strengthen your position for claiming them as a dependent. Also, regarding the FAFSA question - I found out that if the custodial account is properly set up with the child as the beneficiary, it typically won't count as a parent asset for OTHER children's FAFSA applications. However, when your stepchild eventually applies for FAFSA themselves, those CD accounts will count as their asset, which could potentially affect their aid eligibility. Something to keep in mind for long-term planning. The Representative Payee account option mentioned by Anastasia sounds like exactly what you need to keep everything properly separated and documented!
maybe a dumb question, but why does every bank check the FATCA box if most people dont have foreign accounts? seems weird that they would check a box that doesn't apply to most people and then it confuses everyone.
It's not about whether YOU have foreign accounts. The checkbox is the bank telling the IRS "We (the bank) are complying with FATCA reporting requirements." All U.S. financial institutions have to do this now. It's like them saying "we checked for foreign accounts and we're reporting as required by law." It has nothing to do with whether you personally have foreign assets.
I had the exact same confusion last year! The FATCA checkbox on your 1099-INT is completely normal and doesn't mean you need to do anything special. It's just your bank (Capital One) certifying that they've followed federal reporting requirements - think of it like a stamp that says "we did our paperwork correctly." When TurboTax asks about foreign accounts, just answer honestly that you don't have any. The software sees that FATCA box and runs through its standard questions to be thorough, but for a regular US savings account, you can safely click "No" to foreign account questions and continue with your filing. Your $215 in interest income just gets reported as regular interest income - nothing fancy required. The FATCA thing is between your bank and the government, not something you as the account holder need to worry about at all.
Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I wanted to give you an update on my situation. I finally received my CP12 refund yesterday - exactly 7 weeks from the April 22nd notice date, so a bit longer than the 4-6 weeks they promised but not too bad considering how backed up the IRS has been. I took several pieces of advice from this thread. I used the "Where's My Refund" tool that CosmicCaptain mentioned, which helped me track the progress. I also started implementing Ava's suggestions about documenting my farm business activities more thoroughly - created a separate business account and started keeping better records of my marketing efforts at farmers markets. One thing that really helped ease my anxiety was understanding that the loss carryover from 2022 doesn't count as a new loss year for the hobby farm rules. I was really worried about that, but now I feel more confident about my tax situation going forward. Miguel's warning about potential follow-up notices is something I'm keeping in mind - I'm not spending the extra refund money right away, just in case there are any additional adjustments. Better to be safe than sorry! This community has been incredibly helpful. It's nice to know there are people who understand these complex tax situations and are willing to share their experiences.
Congratulations on finally getting your refund! Seven weeks isn't too bad given how slow things have been this year. It's really smart that you're not spending the extra money right away - I've seen too many people get burned by follow-up notices after thinking they were in the clear. Your approach to improving your farm business documentation sounds solid. Having that separate business account and better marketing records will definitely help if the IRS ever does take a closer look at your operation. The farmers market sales are actually great evidence of business intent since it shows you're actively trying to generate revenue, not just treating it as a hobby. Thanks for sharing the update - it's always helpful to hear how these situations actually play out in real life!
Glad to hear you got your refund! Seven weeks is actually pretty reasonable given the current IRS processing delays. Your proactive approach to documenting your farm business is smart - especially keeping that separate business account and tracking your farmers market activities. Just wanted to add one more tip for anyone else dealing with farm losses: make sure you're tracking the time you spend on farm activities separately from any personal enjoyment of the property. The IRS looks for evidence that you're putting in serious effort to make the operation profitable, not just maintaining a hobby farm. Keep a simple log of hours spent on business activities like planting, harvesting, marketing, bookkeeping, etc. Also, if you haven't already, consider joining your local farm bureau or agricultural extension programs. Membership and participation in these organizations shows the IRS that you're treating farming as a legitimate business and staying current with industry practices.
That's excellent advice about tracking time spent on actual business activities versus personal enjoyment! I never thought about separating those hours, but it makes total sense from an audit perspective. The IRS would definitely want to see that you're putting in real work hours, not just enjoying your property on weekends. The suggestion about joining farm bureau or extension programs is really smart too. I've been hesitant to spend money on memberships, but having that professional involvement documented could be invaluable if questions ever come up about business intent. Plus those organizations probably offer resources that could actually help improve profitability. Do you happen to know if there's a minimum number of hours per week or year that the IRS expects to see for farm operations? I'm probably putting in 15-20 hours per week during growing season, but much less in winter months.
NebulaNinja
For the startup investing business mentioned in your question, there's another wrinkle to consider. If you're regularly investing in startups as your primary business activity, the IRS might classify you as a "dealer" rather than an "investor." This classification can dramatically change your tax situation - dealer transactions generate ordinary income/loss while investor transactions generally create capital gains/losses (which have different tax rates and limitations).
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Fatima Al-Suwaidi
ā¢How does the IRS determine if you're a "dealer" versus an "investor"? Is it just about volume of transactions or are there other factors?
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Marina Hendrix
ā¢The IRS uses several factors to determine dealer vs. investor status, not just transaction volume. Key considerations include: frequency and regularity of transactions, length of holding periods (dealers typically hold for shorter periods), the nature and purpose of acquisitions (dealers buy with intent to resell quickly), and whether you're actively soliciting customers or advertising services. They also look at whether investing is your primary business activity and source of income. Courts have generally found that if you're regularly buying and selling securities as a trade or business to customers, you're likely a dealer. The classification can actually vary by asset type too - you could be a dealer in some investments and an investor in others depending on how you handle each category.
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Anita George
The key distinction you're looking for really comes down to timing and purpose. Business expenses are costs that benefit your business for one year or less and are deductible immediately. Investments (capital expenditures) are purchases that benefit your business for more than one year and must be depreciated over time. For your $135k example - if it's going toward salaries, rent, utilities, supplies, etc., those are current expenses that reduce this year's taxable income. But if you're buying equipment, real estate, or other assets with useful lives beyond one year, those are capital expenditures where you recover the cost through depreciation deductions over several years. The house-flipping scenario is interesting because it depends on your business model. If you're regularly buying, improving, and selling homes as your primary business, those properties are actually inventory (similar to a car dealer's vehicles). The purchase price and improvements become your cost basis, not immediate deductions. However, ongoing costs like insurance, utilities, and property taxes while you hold the property are typically deductible as business expenses. One important exception to watch for is Section 179, which lets you immediately deduct up to $1.2M of qualifying equipment purchases instead of depreciating them. This can be huge for cash flow if you're buying machinery, computers, or other business equipment. I'd strongly recommend working with a tax professional who understands your specific industry, as these distinctions can significantly impact your tax liability.
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