HSA contributions through employer - are they really exempt from 7.65% FICA taxes?

This is a great question about HSA contributions! When you're self-employed, the rules work a bit differently than for traditional employees. For self-employed individuals, HSA contributions don't automatically reduce your FICA tax liability like they do with employer-sponsored plans. Even though you're technically your own employer, you still need to pay self-employment taxes (which is essentially both the employer and employee portions of FICA, totaling 15.3%) on your net earnings. You can deduct your HSA contribution on your personal tax return, which reduces your income tax, but it doesn't reduce the self-employment tax base. This is because self-employment taxes are calculated before any HSA deductions are taken into account. The only way for self-employed people to get FICA tax savings on HSA contributions is to establish an S-corporation and pay yourself as an employee, then make the HSA contributions through that arrangement as an employer contribution.

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Just to add some real numbers to this discussion - I'm self-employed and contribute $7,750 to my family HSA annually. By not getting the FICA exemption on this amount, I'm paying about $1,185 extra in self-employment taxes (15.3% of $7,750) compared to if I were an employee with employer HSA contributions. After looking into S-corp formation costs in my state, it would cost about $800 initially plus annual fees of $350 plus additional accounting costs of around $1,200 yearly. So for me, the S-corp route just for HSA FICA savings doesn't make financial sense.

I might be missing something, but couldn't you just set up an S-corp and only take a portion of your income as salary and the rest as distributions? That way you'd save FICA not just on the HSA contribution but on a big chunk of your total earnings. My accountant recommended this approach when I hit about $100k in self-employment income.

This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation as a freelance graphic designer and had no idea about the FICA tax differences between employer HSA contributions and self-employed contributions. What I'm taking away from this discussion is that as a sole proprietor, I'm essentially paying an extra 15.3% tax on money that goes to my HSA compared to traditional employees. That's a significant hidden cost I never considered when calculating my effective tax rate. The S-corp strategy sounds interesting, especially @Abigail bergen's point about saving FICA on distributions beyond just the HSA amount. But it seems like the math only works if you're making enough to justify the additional complexity and costs. Does anyone have a rough income threshold where S-corp election typically becomes worthwhile? Also, @Sienna Gomez's point about prioritizing solo 401k contributions first is brilliant - I had been doing HSA first thinking it was more tax-advantaged, but clearly I was missing the self-employment tax piece of the equation.

This whole discussion has been incredibly eye-opening! As someone who's been self-employed for about 3 years now, I had no idea I was essentially paying a "penalty" on my HSA contributions compared to traditional employees. The math is pretty shocking when you break it down - if I'm contributing the max family HSA amount of $8,550 in 2024, I'm paying an extra $1,308 in self-employment taxes (15.3% × $8,550) that I wouldn't pay if I were an employee receiving employer HSA contributions. That's a significant chunk of change! What really hit home was @Sienna Gomez's strategy of maxing out the solo 401k first since those contributions actually DO reduce self-employment taxes. I've been doing it backwards this whole time, prioritizing HSA contributions thinking they were more tax-advantaged overall. I'm definitely going to restructure my contribution strategy next year - solo 401k to the max first, then HSA after. And maybe when my income grows a bit more, I'll seriously look into the S-corp route that others have mentioned. Thanks everyone for sharing your real-world experiences and numbers - this kind of practical advice is worth its weight in gold!

This thread has been incredibly educational! As someone who just transitioned from W-2 employment to freelance consulting last year, I'm realizing I've been making some costly mistakes with my HSA strategy. I had always heard that HSA contributions were "triple tax-advantaged" but clearly that third advantage (avoiding FICA taxes) only applies to employer-sponsored contributions, not self-employed ones. The fact that I'm paying an extra 15.3% on my HSA contributions compared to my previous employer plan is a tough pill to swallow. The solo 401k insight from @Sienna Gomez and others is a game-changer for me. I've been maxing out my HSA first ($4,300 for individual coverage) thinking it was the most tax-efficient move, but now I understand I should be prioritizing the solo 401k since those contributions actually reduce my self-employment tax burden. Quick math check - if I'm contributing $4,300 to my HSA annually, that's about $658 in extra self-employment taxes I'm paying compared to if I were still an employee. That's money I could be saving or investing elsewhere! Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences and numbers. This is exactly why communities like this are so valuable for navigating the complexities of self-employment taxes.

This discussion has been incredibly helpful! I'm a freelance web developer who's been self-employed for about two years, and I had no idea about the FICA tax implications of HSA contributions until reading this thread. Like many others here, I was under the impression that HSA contributions were universally "triple tax-advantaged" regardless of how you made them. Learning that self-employed individuals miss out on the FICA tax savings (that extra 15.3%!) compared to employees with employer-sponsored HSA plans is honestly pretty frustrating. I've been contributing about $4,000 annually to my HSA, which means I'm paying roughly $612 extra in self-employment taxes that I wouldn't pay if I were a traditional employee. That's a significant hidden cost of being self-employed that I never factored into my financial planning. The advice about prioritizing solo 401k contributions first is gold - I had it completely backwards and was funding my HSA before maximizing my solo 401k. Clearly I need to restructure my approach since solo 401k contributions actually reduce the self-employment tax base. I'm nowhere near the income threshold where S-corp election makes sense yet, but it's good to understand that pathway for future planning. For now, I'll definitely be rethinking my contribution priority order. Thanks to everyone who shared their real numbers and experiences!

This has been such an enlightening thread! As someone who's been self-employed for about 18 months now, I honestly had no clue about the FICA tax penalty on HSA contributions. Reading everyone's experiences and calculations really opened my eyes to how much this impacts our bottom line. I've been contributing $3,650 annually to my HSA (individual coverage), which means I'm paying about $558 extra in self-employment taxes compared to what I would have paid as a traditional employee. That's money that could be going toward my emergency fund or business investments! What really resonates with me is how many of us made the same mistake of prioritizing HSA contributions thinking they were the ultimate tax-advantaged account. The solo 401k strategy that @Sienna Gomez and others mentioned is something I need to implement immediately - it makes so much sense to prioritize accounts that actually reduce self-employment taxes first. I'm also grateful for the insights about S-corp thresholds. At my current income level, it's not worth the complexity, but knowing to consider it around $60-80k gives me a clear milestone to work toward. Thanks to everyone who shared their real numbers and honest experiences. This is exactly the kind of practical advice that makes the difference between struggling with self-employment taxes and actually optimizing them!