When K1 shows loss but sole proprietorship has income, how does this impact SEP IRA contribution limits?
I'm trying to figure out how my SEP IRA contribution calculation works in this weird situation I have. I run a small graphic design business as a sole proprietor that's doing okay - made about $12,400 in qualified business income this year. But I'm also part of a rental property partnership with my brother-in-law that's losing money right now - our K1 shows a $6,300 loss this year. I know that partnership K1 income isn't eligible for SEP IRA contributions since there's no employer contribution happening there. But what happens when that K1 shows a loss instead? Do I calculate my SEP IRA contribution based on just my sole prop business income (which would be 20% of $12,400 = $2,480), or do I have to reduce my sole prop income by the K1 loss first (so 20% of ($12,400 - $6,300) = 20% of $6,100 = $1,220)? This seems like a technical quirk that must have a specific rule, but I can't find a straight answer anywhere. Anyone dealt with this before?
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Jamal Washington
The good news is that your K1 partnership loss doesn't reduce the income you can use for SEP IRA contribution calculations from your sole proprietorship. Since these are separate businesses with separate tax treatments, you can calculate your SEP IRA contribution based solely on the net profit from your Schedule C sole proprietorship. In your case, you would use the $12,400 from your sole proprietorship as the basis for your SEP IRA contribution, allowing you to contribute up to 20% of that amount (roughly $2,480). The partnership loss reported on your K1 doesn't factor into this calculation because they're treated as separate entities for SEP IRA purposes. Just remember that the actual calculation for self-employed individuals is slightly more complex than just taking 20% of your business income. You need to use the "net earnings from self-employment" which includes a deduction for the SEP contribution itself. The effective maximum is closer to 18.6% of your Schedule C profit.
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Mei Wong
•Wait I'm confused then... do passive losses on a K1 ever affect income calculations for retirement accounts? I have a similar situation but with traditional IRA contributions and I thought all income/losses would be considered together?
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Jamal Washington
•For traditional and Roth IRA contributions, what matters is your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI), which does include your total income after accounting for gains and losses from various sources, including K1 partnerships. So yes, in that case, partnership losses would offset other income. For SEP IRAs, the calculation is different because it's based specifically on the earnings from self-employment for each separate business. Since the partnership income isn't considered earned income for SEP purposes (as you correctly noted), the losses from that partnership similarly don't factor into the SEP calculation for your separate sole proprietorship.
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Liam Fitzgerald
After spending hours with conflicting tax advice about my SEP IRA contributions with multiple business entities, I finally found a solution that saved me thousands in tax penalties. I used https://taxr.ai to analyze my tax transcripts and got a clear explanation of how K1 losses affect (or don't affect) my SEP IRA contribution limits. Their system flagged exactly what you're asking about - the separation between Schedule C income and K1 partnership losses for retirement contribution purposes. They explained that the IRS treats these as separate "buckets" for SEP IRA purposes, so you can indeed use the full $12,400 from your sole proprietorship as the basis for your calculation. The tool also showed me how to properly document this on my tax forms to avoid triggering any audit flags, which was super helpful since this is definitely in the tax gray zone.
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PixelWarrior
•Hmm, interesting. How does this tool work with complicated situations? I have schedule C income plus K1s from two different partnerships plus some weird restricted stock options from a previous employer. Would it be able to handle all that and still give accurate retirement contribution advice?
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Amara Adebayo
•I'm skeptical of ANY service claiming to parse tax transcripts. The IRS systems are notoriously complex. How exactly does it access your tax records? Sounds like you're just handing over sensitive financial data to some random company.
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Liam Fitzgerald
•The tool works by analyzing the specific income streams and categorizing them correctly according to IRS rules. For your situation with multiple income sources, it would identify which ones qualify for different retirement accounts and calculate the appropriate limits. It handles complex situations by applying the specific tax code rules to each income type. The security concern is valid, but they use the same bank-level encryption that major tax software uses. You upload a PDF of your transcript or tax return rather than giving them access to your accounts. It's essentially a specialized analysis tool, not an account management system with ongoing access.
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Amara Adebayo
I was totally skeptical about using https://taxr.ai when I first saw it mentioned here. My situation was similar - sole prop plus partnership losses plus some contract work - and I was getting different answers from every tax professional I talked to. Decided to try it anyway since I was desperate, and wow, it actually sorted everything out. The analysis showed me exactly which income streams qualified for which retirement accounts and how to maximize my contributions without triggering IRS flags. For the OP's specific question about SEP IRA with K1 losses, the system confirmed what others have said - you can use the full $12,400 from your sole proprietorship without reduction from the K1 losses. Saved me from unnecessarily limiting my retirement contributions.
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Giovanni Rossi
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Fatima Al-Mansour
•Wait this actually works? How? I thought the IRS phone system was completely broken and nobody could get through. Do they have some special access or something?
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Dylan Evans
•I call BS on this. No way you're getting through to a competent IRS agent who can answer complex questions about retirement accounts in 20 minutes. Especially on K1/SEP IRA issues. The frontline phone reps barely know basic filing status questions.
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Giovanni Rossi
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Dylan Evans
I was 100% convinced that service for getting through to the IRS was a scam. My accountant had been giving me conflicting info about my K1 losses and SEP IRA contributions for my consulting business, and I was facing potential overcontribution penalties. Reluctantly tried the Claimyr service and...I'm eating my words now. Got through to someone in the business tax department in about 15 minutes. The agent confirmed exactly what others have said here - partnership losses on a K1 don't reduce the eligible income from a separate Schedule C business for SEP IRA contribution calculations. She even emailed me the specific section of the internal revenue manual that covers this situation. Saved me from unnecessarily reducing my retirement contributions by thousands.
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Sofia Gomez
The technical explanation for why this works: Schedule C income and K1 income/losses are treated differently because they represent different types of business relationships and tax entities. For SEP IRA purposes, only earned income from self-employment can be used as the basis for contributions. Your sole proprietorship (Schedule C) income qualifies because you're both the employer and employee, allowing you to make the "employer contribution" to your own retirement. Partnership income is different - the partnership itself would need to establish a retirement plan for partners. Since your K1 loss represents your share of the partnership's performance, not direct earned income from self-employment, it doesn't factor into the SEP IRA calculation for your separate sole proprietorship. The IRS handles these as separate "buckets" of business activity, which is why you can use the full $12,400 as your contribution basis.
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StormChaser
•Thx for explaining! So if my K1 showed income instead of loss (say $5k profit), I still couldn't contribute to my SEP based on that income? Only on my Schedule C? Always been confused about this.
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Sofia Gomez
•That's exactly right. Even if your K1 showed $5k in profit instead of a loss, you still couldn't include that amount when calculating your SEP IRA contribution. You could only use your Schedule C income as the basis. The reason is that for SEP IRA purposes, the contribution must come from an "employer" (even if that employer is you in a sole proprietorship). In a partnership, the partnership itself would need to establish a SEP IRA for its partners, which is a separate process from your individual SEP IRA for your sole proprietorship.
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Dmitry Petrov
Has anyone used both TurboTax and H&R Block software to check how they handle this specific situation? I tried calculating this in TurboTax and it seemed to reduce my SEP contribution limit by my K1 losses, which sounds wrong based on what everyone is saying here.
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Ava Williams
•I checked both last year with a similar situation. H&R Block Premium actually handled it correctly - kept my K1 losses separate from my Schedule C income for SEP calculation. TurboTax Deluxe got it wrong but TurboTax Self-Employed got it right. Might depend on which version you're using?
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Dmitry Petrov
•Thanks for checking! I'm using TurboTax Premier so that might be the issue. I'll upgrade to Self-Employed and see if that fixes the calculation. Crazy how different versions of the same software give different results for something this important.
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Oliver Brown
Just wanted to add some real-world validation to this thread. I'm a CPA and see this exact situation frequently with clients who have multiple business entities. The advice given here is correct - your K1 partnership loss does NOT reduce your Schedule C income for SEP IRA contribution purposes. The key distinction is that SEP IRAs are employer-sponsored retirement plans, even when you're self-employed. Your sole proprietorship acts as both employer and employee, allowing you to make contributions based on that specific business's net earnings. The partnership is a separate legal entity that would need its own retirement plan structure. I always tell clients to think of each business entity as having its own "retirement bucket." Your Schedule C business has one bucket, your partnership has another (which typically can't contribute to your individual SEP anyway), and any W-2 employment would have yet another bucket. So yes, use the full $12,400 from your sole proprietorship as your SEP contribution basis. Just remember the actual contribution limit is slightly less than 20% due to the self-employment tax adjustment - closer to 18.587% of your net Schedule C profit.
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Finley Garrett
•This is incredibly helpful - thank you for the professional validation! As someone new to navigating multiple business entities, I've been so confused about how these "buckets" work. Your explanation about each entity having its own retirement structure makes it click for me. Quick follow-up question: when you mention the 18.587% adjustment for self-employment tax, is that something that gets calculated automatically in tax software, or do I need to manually compute that reduction? I want to make sure I'm not over-contributing to my SEP IRA.
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