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I know I'll get attacked for this but... just hire a pro the first year you have an LLC. Learn how they do everything, ask questions, and then next year you can DIY with confidence.
No way, for a zero-income LLC that's complete overkill. Why waste money on a pro when it's literally just a Schedule C with zeros?
I'm in a very similar situation - formed my LLC last year but no income yet. Based on all the advice here, it sounds like TurboTax Self-Employed should handle this just fine since we're dealing with a disregarded entity situation. One thing I'm curious about though - for those who filed Schedule C with zeros, did you run into any issues or additional questions from the IRS? I'm wondering if including a Schedule C with no activity might trigger any red flags or if it's actually better to establish that paper trail like some of you mentioned. Also, has anyone used the newer AI tax tools that were mentioned? I'm intrigued but want to make sure I'm not missing any nuances that only come with traditional software or professional help.
Quick question for those who've been through this: Does changing to MFS create any issues with the estimated taxes already paid under MFJ? I'm also considering switching but already made quarterly payments jointly with my spouse.
When you file MFS after making joint estimated payments, you'll need to allocate those payments between spouses on your tax returns. You can split them however you want as long as the total equals what you paid and both spouses agree on the allocation. I usually recommend documenting the agreed-upon split in writing between you and your spouse, just to avoid any confusion. Also be aware that if you're in a community property state (AZ, CA, ID, LA, NV, NM, TX, WA, or WI), there might be additional considerations about how income and payments should be allocated.
I went through this exact situation two years ago and wanted to share some practical tips for anyone considering the MFJ to MFS switch: 1) **Run the numbers both ways first** - Don't just focus on the QBI deduction. I used a spreadsheet to calculate our total tax liability under both scenarios, including all the credits and deductions we'd lose with MFS. 2) **State tax implications** - Some states require you to use the same filing status as federal, others don't. In my case, our state had different rules that actually made MFS less beneficial at the state level even though it helped federally. 3) **Estimated payment allocation** - We split our estimated payments proportionally based on our separate incomes. So if I earned 60% of our combined income, I claimed 60% of the estimated payments. This seemed fairest and avoided any disputes. 4) **Documentation** - I kept detailed notes about why we chose MFS that year, including calculations showing the tax benefit. Never needed it, but felt good to have it organized. In our case, the QBI deduction saved us about $12k, but we lost roughly $4k in other benefits, so net savings was around $8k. Definitely worth it, but much less than the initial QBI calculation suggested. The switch itself was straightforward - no special forms needed, just file your separate returns by the extended deadline.
This is incredibly helpful! I'm in a very similar situation - consulting income around $160k and spouse with high W-2 income. Your point about state tax implications is something I hadn't even considered yet. Quick question: when you allocated the estimated payments proportionally, did you run into any issues with underpayment penalties? I'm worried that if I claim too much of our joint estimated payments on my MFS return, my spouse might not have paid enough throughout the year to avoid penalties. Also, did you use any specific software or just manual calculations to run the numbers both ways? I want to make sure I'm not missing any of the less obvious deductions that get affected by the filing status change.
I've been through a similar situation recently when I sent money to my family in Italy for a home renovation project. Based on my research and experience, here's what I learned: For transfers between $13k-25k to family abroad, you're correct that the financial institution (like Wise) handles the reporting requirements for transactions over $10k, but you may need to file Form 709 (Gift Tax Return) if your transfer exceeds the annual gift tax exclusion limit of $18,000 per person for 2025. A few key points to keep in mind: 1. The Form 709 is required if you exceed the annual exclusion, but it doesn't necessarily mean you'll owe tax - it just counts against your lifetime gift tax exemption 2. Don't split your transfer into smaller amounts to avoid the $10k reporting threshold - that's considered "structuring" and is illegal 3. Make sure to check if your parents in Germany have any reporting requirements on their end for receiving foreign funds I used Wise for my transfer and found their process straightforward. For larger amounts, they may ask for additional documentation about the source of funds and purpose of the transfer, but it's all standard compliance stuff. One thing that really helped me was getting direct confirmation from the IRS about my specific situation. The phone lines are usually impossible, but I had good luck getting through to clarify exactly what forms I needed to file. Hope this helps! International transfers can seem overwhelming at first, but once you understand the requirements, it's pretty manageable.
This is really helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with international transfers and all these forms are pretty overwhelming. Quick question - you mentioned getting through to the IRS directly. How long did it take you to actually speak to someone? I've been dreading having to call them because I've heard horror stories about being on hold for hours. Also, when you filed Form 709, did you do it yourself or use a tax professional? I'm trying to figure out if it's something I can handle on my own or if I should bite the bullet and pay for professional help.
@Carter Holmes Great questions! I totally understand the intimidation factor - I was in the same boat when I first had to deal with this stuff. Regarding calling the IRS, I actually got lucky and got through in about 40 minutes, but that was after trying multiple times on different days. The key is calling right when they open 7 (AM local time and) having all your information ready. I d'recommend having your SSN, the specific questions written down, and any relevant documents nearby before you call. For Form 709, I ended up doing it myself using the IRS instructions and TurboTax s'premium version. It s'definitely more complex than a basic 1040, but if your situation is straightforward just (a single gift to family members ,)it s'manageable. The form asks for details about the gift amount, recipient information, and calculates how it affects your lifetime exemption. That said, if you re'uncomfortable with tax forms or have other complicating factors in your tax situation, a tax professional might be worth the cost for peace of mind. I d'say if this is your only unusual "tax" situation, try doing it yourself first - you can always consult a professional if you get stuck. The most important thing is just making sure you file it if you exceed the annual exclusion. Better to file it and have everything above board than risk issues later!
I'm in a very similar situation - permanent resident planning to help family overseas with home improvements. After reading through all these responses, I feel much more confident about the process. Just to summarize what I've gathered for anyone else in this situation: 1. **Bank reporting vs. personal filing are different things** - Wise (or your bank) will file required reports for transfers over $10k, but that doesn't mean you personally need to file anything with the IRS unless you exceed gift tax thresholds. 2. **Gift tax threshold for 2025 is $18,000 per person** - If you're sending $13k-25k to your parents, you might need Form 709 depending on the exact amount and whether you're giving to one or both parents. 3. **Don't structure payments** to avoid the $10k reporting threshold - apparently this can create bigger problems than just making the transfer normally. 4. **Check recipient country rules** - Great point about Germany potentially having their own reporting requirements for receiving foreign funds. For those worried about getting IRS guidance, it sounds like there are some legitimate services that can help you actually get through to speak with an agent without the usual hold time nightmare. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this thread has been incredibly helpful for understanding what initially seemed like a very complicated process!
This is such a great summary! I'm also a permanent resident and have been putting off sending money to help my family back home because I was so confused about all the requirements. Your breakdown makes it much clearer. One thing I'm still wondering about - if you're sending money to both parents (like for a joint home renovation), does the $18,000 gift tax exclusion apply to each parent individually, or is it combined? So could you theoretically send up to $36,000 ($18k to each parent) without needing to file Form 709? Also, has anyone here actually used those IRS callback services that were mentioned? I'm curious about the experience since calling the IRS directly seems like such a nightmare.
Has anyone actually tried claiming AOTC for grad school after finishing undergrad in 3 years? Would the IRS system automatically flag this or would it only come up in an audit? Asking for... reasons...
Don't do it. The IRS systems are pretty good at catching this now. They get information from your school about what degree program you're in, and universities report whether you're an undergraduate or graduate student on the 1098-T form. It's not worth risking an audit and penalties over this.
I'm actually a tax preparer and see this question come up a lot during tax season. The confusion is totally understandable because the "4 years" language does seem like it should work the way you're thinking. Unfortunately, the AOTC eligibility is tied to your degree status, not the number of calendar years you've been in school. Once you have a bachelor's degree (even if earned in 3 years), the IRS considers you to have completed your undergraduate education and you're no longer eligible for AOTC regardless of having that "unused" 4th year. The good news is that the Lifetime Learning Credit is actually pretty decent for grad school - you can claim 20% of up to $10,000 in qualified expenses (so max $2,000 credit). With your $24k tuition, you'd be able to claim the full $2,000 assuming your income doesn't phase you out. At $85k income filing single, you should still qualify for the full credit. Just make sure when you file that you claim the LLC instead of AOTC - the IRS gets 1098-T forms from schools that indicate your student status, so they'll catch it if you try to claim AOTC for graduate coursework.
This is exactly the kind of clear, professional explanation I was hoping to find! As someone who just went through this exact situation, it's really helpful to get confirmation from an actual tax preparer. I was getting confused by all the different interpretations of the "4 years" language, but your explanation about it being tied to degree status rather than calendar years makes perfect sense. One quick follow-up question if you don't mind - when you mention the IRS getting 1098-T forms that indicate student status, does that mean they automatically cross-reference those against AOTC claims? I'm just curious how quickly they'd catch someone trying to claim the wrong credit. Thanks for taking the time to explain this so clearly!
Zara Shah
Has anyone actually gotten in trouble with the IRS for incorrectly reporting Box 14 stuff? I've been ignoring most of it for years and just entering the obvious things like union dues. Never had an issue.
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NebulaNomad
β’I think most Box 14 items don't even get reported on your federal return anyway - they're just informational. I've been doing my taxes for 20+ years and never had a problem with Box 14 stuff. The important stuff is in the other boxes that have specific places on your tax forms.
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Vanessa Figueroa
I work in tax preparation and can confirm that Box 14 confusion is super common! Your hospital employer is likely using those multiple "HSA EE" entries to track your Health Savings Account contributions by quarter or pay period - this is actually helpful for their recordkeeping. The good news is that HSA employee contributions are pre-tax, so they reduce your taxable income (which is already reflected in your other W2 boxes). When you enter this into TurboTax, it will recognize these codes and handle them appropriately. The software is pretty good at distinguishing between items that need to be reported versus those that are just informational. For healthcare workers, I commonly see Box 14 items like continuing education reimbursements, uniform allowances, parking benefits, and various insurance premiums - most don't require separate reporting on your federal return. Don't stress too much about it - as long as you enter the information accurately as it appears on your W2, you'll be fine!
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Freya Christensen
β’This is really helpful to hear from someone who works in tax prep! I'm actually the original poster and I feel so much better now knowing that multiple HSA entries are normal. Quick question - when TurboTax asks me to enter the Box 14 items, should I enter each "HSA EE" entry separately even though they're all HSA contributions? Or does it matter if I just add them up into one total? I want to make sure I'm doing this right since this is my first year with an HSA through my hospital job.
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