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I'm dealing with a similar situation and wanted to share what I learned from a tax professional. The key thing to understand is that even though you had a net loss, the IRS computer systems are designed to flag missing W2G income automatically. Here's my step-by-step approach: 1) File Form 1040-X (Amended Return) for 2023 ASAP 2) Report the full $192,084.32 from your W2G on Schedule 1 as "Other Income" 3) Switch to itemizing deductions on Schedule A 4) Claim your gambling losses on Schedule A (up to the amount of winnings) 5) Attach a detailed gambling log showing all your DraftKings activity The tricky part is that you'll lose your standard deduction, so this only helps if your total itemized deductions exceed $13,850 (or whatever your standard deduction was). If not, you might still owe tax on phantom income. Download your complete transaction history from DraftKings - they keep detailed records that show your actual net loss position. This documentation will be crucial if the IRS has questions. Don't wait for them to contact you. Being proactive with an amended return shows good faith and can help avoid penalties.
This is really helpful advice! I'm curious though - when you mention downloading transaction history from DraftKings, how detailed should that gambling log be? Do I need to record every single contest entry, or is it enough to show monthly summaries of deposits/withdrawals and net results? Also, if I'm switching to itemizing just for the gambling losses, what other deductions should I look for to help reach that standard deduction threshold?
Great question about the gambling log detail level! From what I understand, the IRS wants to see a contemporaneous record that shows dates, types of gambling, amounts wagered, and amounts won or lost. For DraftKings, you don't need every single contest entry - monthly summaries are generally acceptable as long as they're supported by the platform's official statements. The key is having documentation that matches what DraftKings reports to the IRS. Their annual tax statement should show your total winnings and can serve as primary documentation, with your personal log as supporting evidence. For other itemized deductions to help reach the standard deduction threshold, look for: mortgage interest, state/local taxes (up to $10k limit), charitable contributions, medical expenses over 7.5% of AGI, and unreimbursed business expenses if you're self-employed. Even small amounts like tax preparation fees or investment advisory fees can add up. If you're close to the threshold, it might be worth consulting a tax pro to make sure you're capturing all eligible deductions before deciding whether itemizing makes sense in your situation.
I went through this exact situation with FanDuel last year and want to share what worked for me. The most important thing is getting organized documentation before you file your amended return. First, log into your DraftKings account and download your complete 2023 transaction history - not just the tax summary, but every deposit, withdrawal, and contest result. This creates a complete paper trail that shows your actual gambling activity versus what the W2G reports. Second, create a simple spreadsheet showing your monthly net results. This doesn't have to be complicated - just columns for deposits, winnings, withdrawals, and net position each month. This visual summary makes it crystal clear to the IRS that despite the large W2G amount, you ended the year with a net loss. When I filed my amended return, I included both the detailed transaction history and the monthly summary. The IRS accepted it without any follow-up questions. The key was showing that my record-keeping was thorough and matched their records. One tip: if you're borderline on whether itemizing vs standard deduction makes sense, calculate both scenarios before filing. Sometimes the math works out better than you'd expect, especially if you have other deductions you might have overlooked. Don't stress too much about this - it's a very common issue with fantasy sports players, and the IRS has seen it thousands of times. Just be proactive about fixing it properly.
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm definitely going to follow your spreadsheet approach. Quick question - when you downloaded your transaction history from FanDuel, did you have any issues with the file format or getting all the data? I'm worried DraftKings might only show partial history or have some transactions missing. Also, did you need to include screenshots of your account balance over time, or was the transaction export file sufficient for the IRS?
I'm a tax preparer and see this situation frequently with my clients. The good news is that address mismatches are incredibly common and the IRS has streamlined procedures for handling them. Here's what I always recommend to clients in your situation: Bring a "document packet" with: - Your current driver's license (even with old address) - Social Security card - At least 2-3 recent documents showing current address: utility bills, bank statements, mortgage/rent statements, insurance correspondence - If you have it, bring your USPS change of address confirmation When you arrive, immediately mention to the agent: "I need to let you know that my driver's license shows my previous address, but I moved in October and have supporting documents for my current address." This proactive approach shows transparency and helps the agent know what to expect. In my experience, agents appreciate when taxpayers come prepared and are upfront about discrepancies. They deal with moves, address changes, and documentation mismatches daily - you're definitely not the first 68-year-old they've helped through this situation! Your refund processing shouldn't be delayed at all once identity verification is complete. The key is just having that supporting documentation ready to go. You've got this!
This is incredibly helpful advice from a professional perspective! I'm curious - when you mention bringing 2-3 documents showing current address, are there any specific types that IRS agents tend to prefer or that carry more weight? For instance, would they view a mortgage statement differently than a utility bill, or are they generally treated equally? Also, I'm wondering if there's any advantage to bringing the USPS change of address confirmation even if it's from several months ago - does that help establish the timeline of the move? Thank you for taking the time to share your professional insights - it's really reassuring to hear from someone who deals with this regularly!
I'm a newcomer to this community but wanted to share my recent experience since it might help! I just went through an identity verification appointment two weeks ago with a similar address situation. My driver's license had my old address from when I lived with my daughter temporarily, but my tax return showed my current apartment address. I was really nervous about it, but the IRS agent was completely understanding. I brought my lease agreement, a utility bill, and a bank statement all showing my current address. When I got there, I immediately explained the situation and showed her all my documents. She said "Oh, this happens all the time - thank you for bringing everything we need!" The whole appointment took maybe 20 minutes, and she even gave me a receipt showing that my identity verification was complete. My refund was deposited exactly one week later with no delays whatsoever. Based on reading everyone's experiences here, it seems like the key is just being prepared with multiple address documents and being upfront about the discrepancy from the start. The IRS really does understand that people move and don't always update their licenses immediately. You're going to do great at your appointment!
Someone mentioned this above, but it's worth emphasizing: INTENT is absolutely critical in how these contributions are treated. If you're audited, the IRS will look at whether the transaction was intended as a loan from the beginning. If there's no documentation, no interest, no repayment schedule, and no actual repayments being made, they'll likely recharacterize it as a capital contribution regardless of how you reported it. One approach I've seen work well: Do a combo where part is clearly designated as a capital contribution (perhaps the proportional amounts based on ownership) and the excess is structured as a formal loan with proper documentation, reasonable interest, and an actual repayment schedule that you follow.
As someone who went through a similar situation with my S-Corp, I'd recommend being very careful about retroactively creating loan documentation without contemporaneous evidence of loan intent. The IRS looks for substance over form. In your case, since you have $30,700 from the 51% owner and $1,800 from the 49% owner, one clean approach might be to treat the first $16,575 from the majority owner as a capital contribution (proportional to their 51% ownership of the total $32,500), and document the remaining $14,125 as a shareholder loan with proper terms going forward. This way you have a reasonable business justification for the split - the proportional part as equity investment, and the excess as debt financing. Just make sure any loan documentation includes a realistic repayment schedule that you actually intend to follow, market-rate interest, and treat it like a real loan with regular payments when cash flow allows. The key is being able to demonstrate genuine loan characteristics from this point forward, not just having a piece of paper that says "loan" without the substance to back it up.
This is really helpful advice! I like the approach of splitting it proportionally - treating $16,575 as capital contribution and $14,125 as a loan makes a lot of business sense and would be easier to defend if questioned. Just to clarify - when you say "market-rate interest," what would be considered reasonable for an S-Corp shareholder loan right now? I want to make sure we're not setting ourselves up for problems by using a rate that's too low or too high. Also, should we be making interest payments even if the company isn't profitable yet, or can we structure it so interest accrues until we have positive cash flow?
4 Has anyone used any of the online stock option management platforms? I've been looking at Carta and a few others that claim to help with tax planning for ISOs.
I'd also recommend checking if your tax preparer has experience with stock options, but don't assume they do just because they're a CPA. Last year I went through three different tax preparers before finding one who really understood ISOs and AMT calculations. The key questions I learned to ask: Have you prepared returns for clients with ISOs before? Can you walk me through how you'd calculate the AMT adjustment for an ISO exercise? Do you understand the difference between disqualifying and qualifying dispositions? One thing that really helped me was finding a tax professional who could model different scenarios - like showing me the tax impact of exercising 25% of my options this year versus waiting until next year. The right advisor should be able to run these numbers and help you optimize your timing based on your specific situation and income levels.
This is really helpful advice about vetting tax preparers! I'm curious - when you say "modeling different scenarios," are you talking about spreadsheet projections or do they use specialized software? Also, did you find that tax preparers with ISO experience typically charge more than regular CPAs? I'm trying to budget for this properly since it sounds like getting the right expertise upfront could save a lot of money in the long run.
Yuki Tanaka
Has anyone else noticed that companies are increasingly adding these "hidden" benefits that you don't really see until tax time? My company does the same thing - they advertise a salary but then there's all this "total compensation" stuff they add on. I'd rather just have the cash tbh.
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Carmen Ortiz
ā¢I actually prefer it this way. My company contributes nearly $8k to my health insurance annually, plus matching 401k, life insurance, etc. All told it's about $15k in additional compensation that I don't pay taxes on. If they just gave me the equivalent in salary, I'd lose a bunch to taxes!
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Ruby Knight
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with something similar where my W2 shows about $3,200 more than my final paycheck YTD. Reading through everyone's experiences, it sounds like the most common culprits are employer-paid benefits that show up as taxable income on the W2 but aren't reflected in regular paycheck totals. @Diego - glad you found the Box 12 codes explanation helpful! That's exactly where I need to look on mine. I think my company provides life insurance and some wellness benefits that I never really thought about as "income" but apparently the IRS does. One thing I'm curious about - do these discrepancies ever indicate actual payroll errors, or is it pretty much always just these fringe benefit reporting differences? I want to make sure I'm not missing something that could affect my tax filing.
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