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Ava Williams

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Just an FYI - cash accounting for small sellers is great but watch out for the inventory exception limits. If your business has average annual gross receipts over $26 million for the prior 3 years, or if you're in certain industries like mining or manufacturing, you can't use this exception. Also, if you maintain inventory in your accounting system for non-tax purposes (like for business tracking), make sure your tax preparer knows you're using the small business exception on your actual tax filing so they don't mistakenly treat you as accrual basis.

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Raj Gupta

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Is the limit really $26 million? I thought small business exemptions kicked in at much lower thresholds, like $1-5 million range? That seems super high.

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Amina Bah

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You're right to question that - I think there might be some confusion with different thresholds. The $26 million figure is for the Section 448 small business exemption, but for inventory accounting specifically under Section 471(c), the threshold is much lower. For most small businesses like eBay sellers, you can avoid formal inventory accounting if your average annual gross receipts for the prior 3 years don't exceed $27 million (adjusted for inflation - it was $26 million in recent years). But practically speaking, most individual eBay sellers are nowhere near this threshold. The key is that you qualify as a "small business taxpayer" which has its own specific definition in the tax code.

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Connor Murphy

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm in a similar situation with my small eBay business and have been struggling with the same questions about cash accounting and donations. One thing I wanted to add - make sure you're keeping detailed records of the fair market value of donated items at the time of donation, not just your original cost. The IRS requires you to use FMV for the charitable deduction, which might be different from what you paid originally. For eBay items that have been sitting unsold, the FMV is often lower than your original cost. Also, I've found it helpful to set up separate tracking categories in my system: "Sold Items" (goes to COGS), "Donated Items" (personal charitable deduction), and "Personal Use Items" (no deduction). This way everything has a clear destination when I remove it from my purchase tracking. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is so valuable during tax season!

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Maya Lewis

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Great point about tracking fair market value separately from original cost! I'm just getting started with my eBay business and this whole thread has been incredibly helpful. One question though - how do you determine the FMV for items that haven't sold? Do you base it on recent sold listings for similar items, or is there a more formal method the IRS expects? I'm worried about getting this wrong since I'm planning to donate some electronics that I bought for $100 each but similar items are only selling for $60-70 now due to newer models coming out.

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To add to this convo - don't forget that if you do form an LLC and keep it as a disregarded entity (basically taxed as a sole prop), you can still deduct the annual LLC fee that most states charge as a business expense on Schedule C! That's separate from your state income taxes. I pay $800/year to California for my LLC and that amount IS deductible as a business expense.

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Amara Torres

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Does that apply to all states? I'm in Texas and thinking about forming an LLC but we don't have state income tax here.

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Texas doesn't have the same type of annual LLC fee that California does, but they do have the franchise tax which applies to LLCs. If your LLC has to pay the Texas franchise tax, that would be deductible as a business expense on Schedule C. However, Texas has revenue minimums before the franchise tax kicks in (I believe it's around $1.23 million in revenue), so many small businesses don't end up paying it. But if you do have to pay it, yes, it's deductible as a business expense.

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I think we're all overcomplicating this. Just use an accountant people! I tried doing my own taxes as a sole prop for 2 years and missed so many deductions. Paid $650 for an accountant last year and she found over $3k in deductions I missed. She also explained that some business structures have higher audit risk than others so it's not just about the deductions.

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Mason Kaczka

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Not everyone can afford $650 for an accountant. Some of us are just starting out and trying to keep costs down while we build our businesses.

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Kai Rivera

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Just want to add a crucial point that might save you some hassle - when you contact your IRA provider about the excess contribution removal, make sure you specifically ask them to process it as a "return of excess contribution" rather than just a withdrawal. The tax reporting is completely different between these two types of transactions. Also, double-check that your 2023 contribution was actually non-deductible. If your income was low enough in 2023 to qualify for a deductible traditional IRA contribution, you might want to consider just treating it as deductible instead of removing it. This could simplify things depending on your specific tax situation. One more thing - if you do proceed with the removal, keep detailed records including the date of the original contribution, the removal date, and all correspondence with your IRA provider. The IRS can be picky about the documentation for these transactions.

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Sophia Nguyen

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to all this IRA stuff and didn't realize there was such a big difference between how these transactions get reported. Quick question - when you say "return of excess contribution" versus "withdrawal," does that affect what forms I need to file? And how do I know for sure if my 2023 contribution should have been deductible? I think I was covered by a workplace plan but my income might have been in that phase-out range where partial deductions are allowed.

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Rami Samuels

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Great questions! Yes, the transaction type definitely affects tax reporting. A "return of excess contribution" gets reported on Form 1099-R with a specific distribution code (usually code "P" for excess contributions), while a regular withdrawal uses different codes that could trigger taxes and penalties you don't want. For determining if your 2023 contribution should have been deductible, you'll need to check the IRS income limits for traditional IRA deductions. For 2023, if you were covered by a workplace retirement plan, the phase-out range for single filers was $73,000-$83,000 (or $116,000-$136,000 for married filing jointly). If your modified adjusted gross income fell within or below these ranges, you might have been eligible for a full or partial deduction. I'd recommend pulling up your 2023 tax return or W-2 to check your income against these thresholds. If you were eligible for even a partial deduction, it might be worth keeping the contribution and just filing Form 8606 to track the non-deductible portion, rather than going through the removal process. The pro-rata calculation for future rollovers might not be as complicated as you think, especially if most of your IRA ends up being deductible contributions anyway.

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One important detail to double-check with your IRA provider - some custodians have internal deadlines for excess contribution removals that are earlier than the IRS deadline. For example, some require requests by March 31st to ensure processing by April 15th. I'd recommend calling them ASAP to confirm their specific timeline requirements. Also, if you do decide to keep the non-deductible contribution instead of removing it, remember that you'll need to file Form 8606 every year going forward, not just for 2023. This form tracks your basis in traditional IRAs and is required whenever you have non-deductible contributions or take distributions from IRAs with mixed pre-tax/after-tax money. Missing these forms can create headaches down the road when the IRS can't verify your basis. The good news is that once you establish a clear paper trail with proper documentation, managing the pro-rata calculations for future rollovers becomes much more straightforward. Just make sure whatever path you choose is well-documented from the start!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with the exact same issue - 4 years running with late K-1s from our S-corp. What's really frustrating is that I'm a 15% shareholder, so this significantly impacts my tax situation each year. After reading through everyone's experiences, I think I'm going to try a multi-pronged approach: 1) Request estimated K-1 numbers by March 1st like Leila suggested, 2) Document all my communications with the S-corp about K-1 timing as recommended by the IRS agent, and 3) Push our management to either get the accounting firm to prioritize earlier completion or find a new firm that commits to March 15th delivery. It's reassuring to know this is so widespread, but also frustrating that it seems to be accepted as "normal." Thanks everyone for sharing your solutions and experiences!

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Luca Greco

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That's a really solid plan, Charlotte! As someone who's been dealing with this same frustration, I'd add one more suggestion: consider setting up quarterly estimated tax payments if you haven't already. Since K-1 income can be unpredictable and you know the forms will be late, making conservative estimated payments throughout the year can help avoid any underpayment penalties while you're waiting for the actual numbers. I learned this the hard way in my second year when my K-1 showed much higher pass-through income than expected and I got hit with penalties even though I filed an extension. The estimated payments give you a buffer while you're implementing all those other strategies.

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Kristin Frank

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I've been lurking on this thread because I'm dealing with the exact same situation, but from a slightly different angle. I'm actually an enrolled agent who has several clients with S-corp interests, and I can confirm that late K-1s are unfortunately the norm rather than the exception. From a practitioner's perspective, here's what I've observed: about 70% of the S-corps I work with miss the March 15th deadline for K-1 distribution. The main culprits are usually: 1) accounting firms that are swamped during tax season and prioritize individual returns, 2) S-corps that wait until the last minute to provide their accounting firms with year-end information, and 3) complex S-corp situations (multiple states, unusual transactions) that require extra time to sort out. What I tell my clients is to set expectations early - assume you'll file an extension and plan accordingly. Make sure you're making adequate estimated tax payments throughout the year, and if possible, try to get involved with your S-corp's management to push for earlier deadlines with their accounting team. Some of the larger accounting firms have dedicated S-corp teams that work specifically on getting these done by March 15th, but you usually pay a premium for that service. The silver lining is that the IRS is very aware this is a widespread issue, so properly filed extensions due to late K-1s are rarely scrutinized.

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Malik Robinson

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Thank you for this professional perspective! As someone new to S-corp ownership (just got my first K-1 last year), it's really helpful to hear from an EA that this is genuinely widespread and not just our company being disorganized. One question - you mentioned that some larger accounting firms have dedicated S-corp teams that prioritize the March 15th deadline. Do you have any recommendations for how shareholders can identify these firms, or what questions we should ask when our S-corp is considering switching accountants? Also, when you say "premium service," are we talking about significantly higher costs, or just a modest increase for the priority handling?

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Jamal Harris

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Based on the discussion here, it sounds like you'll need to include that $120 in the employee's taxable wages. Since your company covered what would normally be the employee's responsibility for Aflac premiums without expecting repayment, the IRS treats this as additional compensation. For S-Corps, this is pretty straightforward - add it to their wages in the pay period when you covered the costs, and make sure it's included on their W-2 at year-end. You'll also need to withhold the appropriate payroll taxes on this amount. One thing to double-check is whether your Aflac deductions are currently set up as pre-tax or after-tax, as someone mentioned above. You can see this by looking at how the deduction appears on your payroll - if it reduces taxable income, it's pre-tax; if it doesn't, it's after-tax. This affects exactly how you handle the tax reporting, but either way, covering the employee's portion makes it taxable income to them. Document everything well since it was related to medical leave - you want a clear paper trail showing this was a one-time accommodation during their ankle injury recovery, not an ongoing benefit that could create precedent issues with other employees.

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Mei Wong

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This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation at my small business and was wondering - when you say to add it to wages "in the pay period when you covered the costs," what if the company covered multiple pay periods worth of premiums all at once? Should we spread it across the pay periods it was meant to cover, or just add the full amount to one paycheck? Also, for the payroll tax withholding, do we calculate that on just the $120 or include it with their regular wages for that period?

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Benjamin Kim

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Great question! For multiple pay periods covered at once, you have some flexibility but consistency is key. You can either spread it proportionally across the pay periods it was intended to cover (which might be cleaner for record-keeping) or add it all to the pay period when you actually made the payment. Most payroll systems handle it better if you add it all at once. For the payroll tax calculation, you definitely include the $120 with their regular wages for that period - don't calculate taxes on it separately. So if they normally earn $2,000 per pay period, you'd calculate all payroll taxes (federal, state, Social Security, Medicare) on $2,120 for that period. This ensures the withholding rates are applied correctly to their total compensation. Just make sure to add a clear memo or note in your payroll system explaining what the additional amount represents so it's documented for both your records and theirs.

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Selena Bautista

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I went through something very similar last year with our S-Corp when an employee had surgery and we covered their portion of various insurance premiums during their recovery. After consulting with our CPA and reviewing the relevant tax code, here's what we learned: The $120 you covered for the Aflac premiums is definitely taxable income to the employee. Since the company paid something the employee would normally be responsible for and isn't seeking reimbursement, the IRS considers this additional compensation regardless of the circumstances that led to it. You'll want to add this amount to their taxable wages on the next payroll run and ensure proper withholding for federal income tax, state tax (if applicable), Social Security, and Medicare. Make sure it also gets included in Box 1 of their W-2 at year-end. One tip from our experience - create a clear policy document about how you handle these situations going forward. Even though this was a compassionate response to a medical situation, having a written policy helps ensure consistent treatment if similar circumstances arise with other employees and can help demonstrate that this wasn't preferential treatment for any particular individual. Also keep detailed records showing this was specifically related to their medical leave and the dates/amounts involved. Good documentation always helps if there are ever any questions down the road.

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