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Has anyone used TurboTax for reporting rental property sales? I'm in a similar situation and wondering if it handles depreciation recapture correctly or if I need to go to a professional.
I used TurboTax last year for my rental property sale and it was decent. It asked all the right questions about depreciation and guided me through the process, but I still felt like I needed to double-check everything. The interface for entering improvement costs was particularly clunky. If your situation is pretty straightforward, TurboTax can handle it. But if you have lots of improvements or a complicated ownership history, might be worth paying a CPA for at least a review.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the Net Investment Income Tax (NIIT). Since you're married filing jointly with income around $83k, adding the $255k capital gain will likely push you over the $250k threshold for NIIT. This means you'll owe an additional 3.8% tax on the investment income portion that exceeds the threshold. So in addition to the regular capital gains tax and depreciation recapture we've discussed, you'd be looking at roughly 3.8% on about $88k of the gain (the amount over $250k threshold), which is another $3,340 or so. Also, don't forget about state taxes if you're in a state that taxes capital gains. This can add significantly to your total tax bill depending on where you live. Make sure you're setting aside enough money - between federal capital gains, depreciation recapture, NIIT, and potential state taxes, you could be looking at a substantially higher tax bill than just the federal calculations alone.
Wow, I completely forgot about the NIIT! That's a really important point. So if I understand correctly, with our $83k regular income plus the $255k capital gain, we'd have $338k total income, which means we'd owe the 3.8% NIIT on $88k (the amount over $250k). This is getting pretty complicated with all the different tax layers. Between the regular capital gains tax (~$31,500), depreciation recapture (~$11,250), and now NIIT (~$3,340), we're looking at close to $46k in federal taxes alone. And we're in California, so there will be state taxes on top of that. I think I definitely need to consult with a tax professional at this point. This is way more complex than I initially thought!
Just want to add another consideration that came up when my family was dealing with this exact situation - the state you're in can make a huge difference in the tax implications. Some states don't have capital gains taxes, while others can add a significant burden on top of federal taxes. We're in California, and the state capital gains tax would have added another 13.3% to our tax bill if we had done the $1 sale route. That alone was enough to make the revocable trust approach even more attractive for us. Also, something I learned from our estate attorney is that the $1 sale can actually complicate things if your parents ever need to qualify for veterans benefits or other income-based programs later. Since they technically "sold" an asset for below market value, it can be viewed as an improper transfer for benefits purposes. The more I researched it, the more the $1 sale seemed like a solution that creates more problems than it solves, at least in our family's situation. The stepped-up basis at inheritance really is a powerful tax benefit that's hard to replicate with lifetime transfers.
The state tax angle is something I completely overlooked! I'm also in a high-tax state (New York), so that additional layer of capital gains tax would really compound the problem with the $1 sale approach. Your point about veterans benefits and other income-based programs is really eye-opening too. It sounds like the $1 sale could create unintended consequences years down the road that we might not even think about until it's too late. Between the federal taxes, state taxes, potential benefits complications, and losing the stepped-up basis, it really does seem like the lifetime transfer approach creates way more headaches than it solves. The revocable trust option you and others have mentioned is starting to look like the clear winner for most families in this situation. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly the kind of real-world insight that helps cut through all the conflicting advice you hear from friends and family who "did something similar.
After reading through all these responses, I'm really grateful for everyone sharing their experiences. This is clearly a much more complex situation than I initially realized, and the tax implications are significant. The consensus seems pretty clear that the $1 sale approach could end up costing us a lot more in taxes than we'd save, especially with the loss of stepped-up basis at inheritance. The examples people shared - like potentially owing capital gains on $365k or losing $120k in tax benefits - are eye-opening. I'm particularly interested in the revocable living trust option that a few people mentioned. It sounds like it gives us the control and flexibility we want while preserving the tax advantages. The idea that my parents could maintain full control during their lifetime but I'd still get the stepped-up basis benefit seems like the best of both worlds. I think our next step is going to be consulting with an estate planning attorney who can run the numbers for our specific situation and explain the trust option in more detail. Based on what everyone has shared, the upfront legal costs seem minimal compared to the potential tax savings. Thanks again for all the detailed responses - this community has been incredibly helpful in understanding what we're really looking at here.
I'm glad you found all the responses helpful! As someone new to this community, I just wanted to chime in with something I learned when my family was in a similar situation last year. One thing that really helped us was getting actual numbers from an estate planning attorney before making any decisions. They were able to calculate the exact tax implications for our specific property values, purchase dates, and family situation. What we thought would be a simple decision turned out to have some nuances we hadn't considered. For example, our attorney pointed out that the timing of when my parents might need assisted living care could affect which approach made the most sense. If they need care soon, keeping the house in their name might be better for Medicaid planning. But if they're likely to live independently for many more years, the trust approach becomes more attractive. The consultation fee was really reasonable (around $300 for a 2-hour meeting), and they provided a written analysis we could refer back to. Definitely worth it to get professional guidance before moving forward with any of these options. Good luck with whatever you decide - it sounds like you're approaching this thoughtfully!
I'm currently going through this exact same situation! I noticed the 970 code appeared on my transcript about 10 days ago with absolutely no other information, and like many of you, I immediately started panicking about what it meant for my refund. Reading through all of these experiences has been incredibly reassuring - it's clear that getting just the 970 code alone is much more common than I thought, and most people seem to get resolution within 3-4 weeks. I was especially helpful to see the variety of reasons people got the code (education credits, identity verification, random reviews, etc.) because it shows that it's usually routine verification rather than a serious problem. I've been guilty of checking my transcript way too often (sometimes multiple times per day!), but based on everyone's advice here, I'm going to limit myself to checking once a week and just wait for the letter to arrive. It sounds like that's really the key - waiting for the IRS to tell you specifically what they need rather than trying to guess from the codes. Thanks to everyone who shared their timelines and outcomes - it really helps reduce the anxiety of not knowing what's happening with your refund!
I'm in the exact same boat as you! Just found the 970 code on my transcript 3 days ago and have been frantically searching for answers. This thread has been a lifesaver - I had no idea this was so common! Like you, I've been obsessively checking my transcript multiple times a day, but after reading everyone's experiences here, I'm convinced that patience is really the key. It seems like the pattern is: 970 code appears ā wait 2-3 weeks ā letter arrives explaining what they need ā quick resolution once you respond. I'm going to follow the advice here and limit myself to checking once a week. The waiting is brutal, but it sounds like we're both likely looking at resolution within the next few weeks. Thanks for posting - it's really comforting to know there are others going through this exact same situation right now!
I just wanted to add my experience to this thread since I went through the exact same thing about 4 months ago. The 970 code appeared on my transcript all by itself, and I was convinced something was seriously wrong with my return. After about 3 weeks of checking my transcript daily (which I don't recommend - it just increases the anxiety!), I received a letter asking me to verify some information about the Child and Dependent Care Credit I had claimed. Turns out they just wanted to confirm my daycare provider's information and the amounts I paid. I was able to respond to their request entirely online through the IRS website, and my refund was released exactly 7 days later. The whole process from when the 970 code first appeared to getting my refund took about 5 weeks total. What I learned from the experience is that the 970 code by itself really is just the beginning of their review process - it doesn't mean there's necessarily anything wrong. The specific reason for the review usually becomes clear when you get that follow-up letter. Try to be patient (easier said than done, I know!) and don't let it stress you out too much. Based on everything I've read here and my own experience, the vast majority of these situations resolve smoothly once you provide whatever information they're looking for.
Your friend definitely needs to take responsibility here instead of blaming the broker. The 5500-EZ is a plan administrator duty, which for solo 401(k)s means the business owner (your friend) is responsible. Here's what your friend should do immediately: 1. Stop wasting time being angry at the broker 2. Determine exactly which years he missed filing (any year his plan assets exceeded $250k on Dec 31) 3. Use the IRS Delinquent Filer Voluntary Compliance Program (DFVCP) to self-report and get reduced penalties 4. File all missing 5500-EZ forms ASAP The voluntary compliance program can reduce penalties from $250/day (max $150k per form) down to as little as $750 per late form for solo plans. But this only works if he acts before the IRS discovers the missing filings. This is a pretty common mistake for people who don't realize the filing requirement kicks in automatically when assets hit the threshold. Better to fix it now than wait for IRS notices!
This is really helpful advice! I'm going to share this with my friend - hopefully he'll listen to reason and stop blaming his broker. The step-by-step approach you outlined makes it seem much more manageable than he's making it out to be. Quick question though - do you know roughly how long the voluntary compliance program takes to process? I'm wondering if he should expect this to drag on for months or if it's something that gets resolved relatively quickly once he submits everything.
The DFVCP processing time can vary, but in my experience it typically takes 2-4 months from submission to final resolution. The IRS has to review the submission, calculate the reduced penalties, and send a closing agreement for signature. The key is getting all the paperwork submitted correctly the first time - any missing information or errors can add weeks to the process. Once your friend submits through the DFVCP portal, he'll get acknowledgment fairly quickly, but the actual penalty determination and closing agreement takes longer. The good news is that once he's in the program, the daily penalty clock stops ticking, so there's no additional penalty accumulation while they process his case. Much better than waiting and potentially facing the full penalties later!
Your friend is completely off base blaming his broker. As a solo 401(k) owner, he IS the plan administrator and is 100% responsible for filing the 5500-EZ when his account balance exceeds $250k at year-end. This is basic retirement plan compliance - brokers manage investments, not tax filings. The fact that he's been avoiding this responsibility for multiple years makes it even worse. He needs to immediately use the IRS Delinquent Filer Voluntary Compliance Program to self-report before they catch him. The penalties can be astronomical - up to $250 per day per missed form, capped at $150k each. Tell your friend to stop playing the blame game and start taking action. Every day he delays makes this more expensive. The voluntary compliance program can reduce penalties to as little as $750 per late form, but only if he acts before the IRS finds the missing filings first.
StarStrider
I've been preparing taxes for 3 years now and completely agree with everyone steering you away from those expensive YouTube courses. They're just not worth it when there are so many legitimate, affordable alternatives. Here's my practical advice: Start with the IRS Annual Filing Season Program (AFSP) - it's free, comprehensive, and actually recognized by the IRS. Get your PTIN ($35.50), then invest in professional software. I use TaxAct Professional which runs about $400-500 for the basic package. My first year earnings were around $5,200 preparing 32 returns at an average of $125-175 each. I worked only evenings and weekends from late January through mid-April. The key was starting with friends and family, then building through referrals. One thing I learned the hard way: don't underestimate the time investment during tax season. Even working part-time, I was putting in 15-20 hours per week during peak season. But the seasonal nature is perfect for a side hustle - you can focus intensely for a few months then have the rest of the year free. Also, just focusing on tax returns without bookkeeping is totally viable. I've never offered bookkeeping services and have built a solid client base purely on tax preparation. Many clients actually prefer specialists who focus on one thing and do it well. Save yourself the $1,000+ and go with the proven, legitimate pathway through IRS resources.
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Kaitlyn Otto
ā¢This is really encouraging to hear! I'm just starting to research this field and the time commitment aspect is something I've been wondering about. 15-20 hours per week during peak season sounds manageable for a side hustle, especially when it's concentrated into just a few months. Quick question - when you say you averaged $125-175 per return, how did you determine those rates? Did you research what other preparers in your area were charging, or did you start lower and gradually increase as you gained experience? I'm trying to figure out how to price competitively as a complete beginner while still making it worth my time. Also, did you find that clients were hesitant to work with someone new to the field, or were they generally okay with it as long as you were upfront about your experience level?
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Grace Patel
I went through a very similar decision process last year and ended up saving myself a lot of money by avoiding those expensive YouTube courses. Here's what actually worked for me: I started with the IRS VITA program to get free training and real hands-on experience. After volunteering for a season, I felt confident enough to get my PTIN ($35.50) and take the Annual Filing Season Program course (also free). Total investment so far: under $40. For software, I went with TaxSlayer Pro at around $450 for the year. So my total startup costs were under $500 compared to the $1,350 you're considering. My first paid season (this past year), I prepared 38 returns and made $6,400. I charged $120-200 depending on complexity and only worked evenings and weekends. Most of my clients came through word of mouth after people heard about my VITA volunteer work. The best part about starting with VITA is you get supervised experience with real returns, so you learn to handle different situations safely. Plus, the training is always current with the latest tax law changes, unlike some of those course videos that might be outdated. Just focusing on tax prep without bookkeeping is completely fine - that's exactly what I do. The seasonal nature actually makes it perfect for a side hustle since you're not tied down year-round. My advice: skip the expensive courses and go the legitimate route through IRS resources. You'll save over $800 and get better, more current training.
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