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Has anyone dealt with Section 754 elections when a partnership interest changes hands? We did a family buyout last year and our accountant mentioned it but I'm still confused how it works.

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Section 754 elections can be really valuable in this situation. When your friend sells his partnership interest, the buyers (family members) can benefit from a Section 754 election if the purchase price is higher than the seller's tax basis inside the partnership. The election allows for an adjustment to the basis of partnership assets for the purchasing partners only. This means if they paid more than the internal basis, they get to increase their basis in the partnership assets, which can provide better depreciation deductions or lower gains when assets are eventually sold. The partnership files the election on its tax return for the year the transfer occurs. It's a one-time election that stays in effect for all future years and transfers, so the partnership should consider the long-term implications.

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Thanks for explaining! That makes way more sense than what our accountant told us. So essentially it lets the buyers get tax benefits based on what they actually paid rather than the original basis. I wish we had known this better before - we probably could have saved some money on taxes after the buyout.

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Sofia Ramirez

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Great discussion everyone! Just wanted to add one more consideration that might be relevant - timing of the sale within the tax year can matter quite a bit. If your friend sells early in the partnership's tax year, he'll have a shorter period of K-1 income to deal with, but the family members will have their increased ownership percentages for most of the year. Also, make sure they consider whether the partnership needs to file an amended partnership agreement or operating agreement to reflect the new ownership structure. While this isn't directly a tax form, having the legal documentation updated will make future tax filings much cleaner and help avoid any questions from the IRS about ownership percentages on future K-1s. The partnership should also notify their tax preparer about the ownership change as soon as it happens so they can properly allocate income and expenses for the partial year periods on everyone's K-1s.

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Kai Rivera

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This is exactly the kind of situation where keeping detailed records pays off! I've been a professional gambler for 5 years and dealt with similar multi-state issues. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given - make sure you're tracking which specific tournaments or sessions generated each W2G. Some states (like Pennsylvania) want to see the actual location and date of the gambling activity, not just the total amount. This becomes crucial if you're audited. Also, regarding your $78,000 total income vs $65,000 in W2Gs - that $13,000 difference needs to be carefully documented. Keep all your session logs organized by state and date. I use a simple spreadsheet that tracks: Date, Location, Buy-in, Cash-out, Net Result, and any expenses for that session. This makes the state allocation much easier. For Illinois specifically, since that's your home state, you'll report ALL your gambling income there (not just Illinois income), then claim credits for taxes paid to other states. The other states only get the income earned within their borders. One last tip: consider consulting with a tax pro who specializes in gambling taxes if your income continues to grow. The multi-state issues get complex quickly, and the penalties for getting it wrong can be substantial.

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Margot Quinn

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This is incredibly helpful advice, especially about tracking the specific tournaments and sessions for each W2G! I'm just getting started with professional gambling taxes and feeling overwhelmed by all the state requirements. Quick question - when you say Pennsylvania wants to see the actual location and date, do you mean on the tax return itself or just in your records in case of audit? And for that spreadsheet system you mentioned, do you also track things like travel costs to each location, or do you handle those separately when doing the state allocations? I'm realizing I probably should have been more detailed in my record-keeping from the start, but better late than never I guess!

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@Margot Quinn Great questions! For Pennsylvania, you typically just need the detailed records for audit purposes - the actual return usually just shows the total amounts. But having that backup documentation organized by location and date is crucial if they ever ask for it. For my spreadsheet system, I actually track travel costs in a separate tab but cross-reference it to the main session log. So if I have a trip to Atlantic City, I ll'note the travel expenses on that date range, then when I do state allocations, I can easily see which expenses relate to which states income.' I also recommend adding a column for Tournament/Cash "Game Type -" it helps when some states have different rules for tournament winnings vs cash game winnings. And don t'beat yourself up about the record-keeping! Most of us learned this stuff the hard way. The key is being consistent going forward. One more tip: scan or photograph all your buy-in receipts and W2Gs immediately. I learned this after spilling coffee on a stack of important documents during tax season last year!

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Ethan Taylor

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As someone who's been through the multi-state professional gambling tax maze, I want to emphasize one crucial point that hasn't been mentioned yet: make sure you understand each state's definition of "professional gambler" status. While you claim professional status on your federal Schedule C, not all states automatically recognize this. Some states treat ALL gambling winnings as "other income" regardless of your professional status, which can affect how you deduct expenses and losses. For example, I discovered that one state I filed in didn't allow me to deduct my full business expenses against gambling winnings the way federal law does. They had a cap on gambling loss deductions even for professional gamblers. This completely changed my tax liability calculation for that state. I'd strongly recommend researching each state's specific rules before filing. Some states have published guidance on professional gambling, while others require you to dig through their tax code or call their departments directly. The differences can be significant - I've seen cases where the same income and expenses result in vastly different tax liabilities depending on how the state treats professional gambling status. Also, keep in mind that your professional gambler status might need to be "proven" to each state independently if you're ever audited. Having consistent documentation across all states showing the business nature of your activities is essential.

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Austin Leonard

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This is such an important point that I wish I had known when I started! I just went through this exact issue with New Jersey - they initially rejected my Schedule C expense deductions and treated my poker winnings as "casual gambling income" even though I've been doing this professionally for two years. I had to send them additional documentation proving my professional status, including my business license, detailed records showing the systematic nature of my play, and evidence that this was my primary source of income. It took three months to resolve, but they eventually accepted my professional status and allowed the full business expense deductions. @Ethan Taylor - do you know if there s'a standard set of documentation that most states accept to prove professional gambling status? I m'trying to get ahead of this for my other state filings. Also, have you found any states that are particularly difficult about recognizing professional gambler status, or any that are more accommodating? The variation between states on this issue is honestly one of the most frustrating parts of multi-state gambling taxes. Federal law is clear, but then you have to navigate 50 different interpretations!

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CosmicCaptain

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This is a great discussion! I want to add some practical perspective as someone who's been through multiple startup equity situations. One thing that's been really helpful for me is creating a spreadsheet to model different scenarios before making decisions. I track: - Current 409A valuation vs my strike price - Projected company valuation growth - My tax bracket and AMT threshold - Cash requirements for different strategies The key insight I've learned is that there's no universal "best" approach - it really depends on your individual situation. For my first startup, ISOs worked great because I could exercise gradually and manage AMT. But at my current company, I went with early exercise + 83(b) because the strike price equaled FMV at grant time, eliminating immediate tax consequences. Also worth noting: if your company offers both restricted stock and ISOs, you might be able to negotiate a mix. I know folks who've gotten 75% ISOs and 25% restricted stock, which gives flexibility for different tax strategies. Don't forget to factor in state taxes too - some states don't have capital gains taxes, which can significantly impact your decision if you're planning to relocate.

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LongPeri

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This is exactly the kind of practical advice I was looking for! The spreadsheet modeling approach makes so much sense - I've been trying to make this decision based on general rules rather than running the actual numbers for my situation. Quick question about the mixed approach you mentioned - when you say 75% ISOs and 25% restricted stock, is that something you negotiated during the initial offer, or did you convert some of your equity later? I'm still in the negotiation phase and wondering if it's worth asking for this kind of flexibility upfront. Also, the state tax point is huge - I'm in California now but considering a move to Texas in the next few years. Sounds like the timing of that move relative to when I exercise/sell could be pretty significant for the overall tax outcome.

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Kaylee Cook

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Great question about timing the move to Texas! I actually did exactly this - exercised my ISOs while still a California resident but waited to sell the shares until after establishing Texas residency. Saved me a significant amount in state capital gains taxes (California's 13.3% top rate vs Texas's 0%). The key is making sure you meet the residency requirements for your new state before the sale. Most states have specific rules about how long you need to be a resident and what constitutes "domicile." I worked with a tax attorney to make sure I did this correctly since the stakes were pretty high. Regarding the mixed equity approach - I negotiated this upfront during the offer stage. I presented it as wanting flexibility to optimize for different tax scenarios, and the company was surprisingly open to it. They said other employees had made similar requests. The HR team actually appreciated that I was thinking strategically about it rather than just asking for "more equity." One more tip: if you do go the mixed route, consider the vesting schedules carefully. I structured mine so the restricted stock vested faster than the ISOs, which gave me some liquidity earlier while preserving the long-term upside of the options.

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Aurora Lacasse

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! The California to Texas move strategy is exactly what I was wondering about. Did you face any challenges proving Texas residency to California's satisfaction? I've heard the CA tax authorities can be pretty aggressive about claiming you're still a resident if you have any remaining ties to the state. Also, I'm curious about the vesting schedule strategy you mentioned. When you say the restricted stock vested faster - was that a standard 4-year cliff that you negotiated to be shorter, or did you structure it as something like 25% of restricted stock vesting in year 1 while ISOs stayed on the standard schedule? I'm trying to understand how granular you can get with these negotiations. The mixed approach sounds like it could be perfect for my situation since I'm also uncertain about my long-term plans. Having some earlier liquidity through the restricted stock while keeping the ISO upside makes a lot of sense.

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Andre Moreau

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Another option is using a mileage tracking app like MileIQ or Everlance throughout the year. They automatically track your trips using GPS and let you swipe left/right to categorize as business or personal. At tax time, you can just export a summary report for your records and enter the total in TurboTax as one line item. Much easier than spreadsheets!

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Nia Harris

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Do those apps create reports that would satisfy the IRS if I got audited? My spreadsheet has columns for date, client name, property address, and miles, plus notes about the appraisal job.

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Andre Moreau

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Yes, the reports from these apps include all the information the IRS requires for documentation. They capture the date, starting point, destination, purpose of the trip, and mileage. Many even include maps of the routes taken which adds another layer of documentation. The IRS wants to see that you're tracking the date, mileage, destination, and business purpose - which these apps record automatically. Some even let you add notes or categorize by client, which sounds similar to what you're already doing manually in your spreadsheet.

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Zoe Stavros

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Has anyone had experience getting audited specifically for mileage deductions? I'm always paranoid about claiming too much even though I drive a ton for my job.

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Jamal Harris

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I actually went through an audit last year where they questioned my mileage (I'm a visiting nurse). They just wanted to see my log which had dates, patient addresses (no names due to HIPAA), and miles. I had about 22,000 business miles and they didn't question a single entry once they saw my detailed records. Don't be afraid to claim what you're legitimately entitled to!

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NebulaNinja

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I had my company's tax advisor on the phone yesterday and specifically asked about this! She said the decision about making the 280C election is getting more complex now that 174 expenses must be amortized. Her explanation was that it depends on several factors: 1. Your effective tax rate 2. Whether you're in an NOL position 3. Your projected tax positions over the next 5 years 4. State tax considerations 5. International tax implications if you have foreign R&E She also mentioned that some of the Big 4 disagree about the "optimal approach" because they're using different economic models to project the long-term impact. So it's less about the technical requirements and more about strategic tax planning under uncertainty.

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Javier Gomez

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This makes a lot of sense - thanks for sharing! Did your advisor happen to mention which approach they generally recommend for companies with significant foreign R&E expenses? That's our main concern.

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Steven Adams

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This is a really timely discussion - I'm dealing with the exact same issue right now! Our company has been going back and forth on the 280C election for months. What I've learned from our research is that the "optimal" approach really depends on your specific tax profile. For companies with significant R&E expenses that are now subject to the 174 amortization requirements, the cash flow timing differences between the two approaches can be substantial. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is the impact on state taxes. Some states don't conform to federal treatment of R&E credits or the 280C election, which can create additional complexity. We discovered that in our case, not making the 280C election actually resulted in better state tax treatment even though the federal impact was roughly neutral. I'd also add that given the ongoing uncertainty around potential legislative changes to Section 174 (there's been talk of repealing the amortization requirement), some firms may be taking a more conservative "wait and see" approach by not making the irrevocable election. Have you considered running both scenarios through a detailed projection model? That's what finally helped us understand why our new advisor was recommending against the election - the 5-year NPV analysis showed a meaningful difference we hadn't initially recognized.

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Aisha Hussain

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! The state tax conformity issue is something our current advisor hasn't even mentioned yet. We operate in multiple states, so this could be a significant factor we're overlooking. The NPV analysis approach makes total sense - I think that's what's been missing from our evaluation. We've been looking at this on a year-by-year basis rather than considering the full 5-year amortization period and the time value of money. Do you mind sharing what kind of projection model you used? Was it something your tax advisor built, or did you use a specific software/tool? Given all the moving pieces (federal vs state treatment, 174 amortization schedules, potential legislative changes), I'm realizing we need a more sophisticated analysis than what we've been doing. Also, regarding the potential Section 174 legislative changes - are you referring to the recent proposals to restore immediate expensing? If that happens, would it fundamentally change the 280C election strategy?

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