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Do I need to send 1099-NECs to contractors I paid through Venmo in 2025?

I run a small business that brought in about $290k in revenue this past year. I paid roughly $145k to various contractors, all through Venmo. I'm getting completely different answers about whether I'm required to issue 1099-NECs to these contractors. None of them have hit the threshold in my state to get a 1099-K directly from Venmo. From what I understand, Venmo's requirements for issuing a 1099-K are $20k in payments (which several of my contractors exceeded) AND 200 transactions (which none of them reached). I'm planning to deduct all these contractor payments as business expenses. I file taxes as self-employed. In previous years, I've always sent 1099s, but lately I've heard from multiple people that using Venmo means I don't need to send 1099s to these contractors at all. My gut tells me that if I'm deducting $145k as contract labor, I should probably issue the 1099s just to protect myself. But I'm worried about creating a situation where my contractors get double-taxed if they receive a 1099 from me AND eventually from Venmo/PayPal. To complicate things further, one contractor is refusing to complete a W9 form. He claims his accountant told him he shouldn't receive a 1099 for Venmo payments. Any guidance on this would be super helpful!

This is actually a common area of confusion! As someone who's dealt with this exact situation, I can help clarify. When you pay a contractor $600+ in a calendar year, you're generally required to issue a 1099-NEC, regardless of the payment method. Using Venmo doesn't change your obligation as a business to issue 1099s. The 1099-K that might be issued by Venmo is separate and serves a different purpose. It reports payments received through a payment processor, but doesn't replace your obligation to issue 1099-NECs as a business paying for services. Your instinct to protect yourself is spot on. The IRS will see you deducting $145k in contractor expenses, and without corresponding 1099s, you're at higher risk for audit. Your contractors won't be double-taxed - they'll report the income once, regardless of whether they get one or multiple forms documenting that same income. For the contractor refusing to provide a W9, remind them that you're legally required to obtain this information. If they still refuse, you may need to implement backup withholding at 24% of their payments going forward.

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So if they do eventually get a 1099-K from Venmo (once they hit both thresholds), how do they avoid being flagged for audit if they have both a 1099-NEC and 1099-K showing the same income? Wouldn't that look like double the actual income to the IRS?

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The contractor simply reports their total income on their Schedule C. On their tax return, they don't actually attach or submit the 1099 forms themselves - they just report the total income they received. Having multiple forms documenting the same income doesn't mean they report that income multiple times. When filing, they can include a note explaining that certain income was reported on both forms to avoid confusion. The IRS matching system is designed to understand this situation, as it's becoming increasingly common with payment apps.

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How does the system handle situations where payment crossed both years? I have some contractors I paid in December 2024 and January 2025 for the same project.

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Does it actually help with generating the 1099s or just tell you who needs them? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it compared to just using my accounting software.

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Several people have correctly mentioned the 1099-NEC requirement, but nobody mentioned the specific penalty for not filing these forms. If you skip filing required 1099s, the penalty can range from $50 to $290 per form, depending on how late you are and if the IRS believes you intentionally disregarded the requirement. With $145k in contractor payments, you probably have quite a few 1099s to issue, so those penalties could add up quickly. For the contractor refusing to provide a W9, you should send them a backup withholding notice. If they still refuse after receiving the notice, you're required to withhold 24% of their payments and remit to the IRS. Document EVERYTHING to protect yourself.

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If I already paid them last year without withholding, what do I do now? Is it too late to do the backup withholding?

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For payments you've already made without withholding, it's too late to do the backup withholding on those specific payments. However, you should still file the 1099-NEC with the information you have (business name, best address you have, etc.) and check the box indicating you weren't able to obtain their TIN. For any future payments to this contractor, you should absolutely implement the backup withholding going forward. And document all your attempts to obtain the W9 - save emails, record dates of conversations, etc. This will help you demonstrate good faith efforts if the IRS questions the missing information.

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OP, your contractor's accountant who says they shouldn't get a 1099 for Venmo payments is giving them BAD advice. I work in payroll accounting and deal with this all the time. The distinction between 1099-NEC and 1099-K is confusing people. As a business expense, you MUST issue 1099-NECs for services $600+ regardless of payment method. The 1099-K from payment processors is a completely separate requirement that doesn't replace your obligation. I had a client get audited last year over this exact issue - they deducted $80k in contractor payments but didn't issue 1099s because "Zelle payments don't need 1099s" (wrong!). They ended up with penalties PLUS having to prove all those expenses were legitimate business expenses. Your gut is right - protect yourself and issue those 1099s!

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What accounting software do you recommend for tracking and issuing 1099s? I'm using QuickBooks but the 1099 feature seems complicated.

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I'm dealing with a very similar situation and wanted to share what I learned after consulting with my CPA. You absolutely need to issue 1099-NECs for contractors paid $600+ regardless of using Venmo, Zelle, or any other payment method. The key thing to understand is that YOUR obligation as a business to issue 1099-NECs is completely separate from Venmo's obligation to issue 1099-Ks to your contractors. These serve different purposes - your 1099-NEC reports what you paid for services, while Venmo's 1099-K (if issued) reports payment processing volume. Your contractor refusing the W9 is creating a problem for themselves, not you. You should send them a formal backup withholding notice and explain that you're legally required to withhold 24% of future payments if they don't provide their tax information. Most contractors change their tune pretty quickly when they realize they'll lose 24% of their payments. For the $145k you're deducting, the IRS will definitely want to see corresponding 1099s. The mismatch between large contractor expense deductions and missing 1099s is a red flag for audits. Better to be compliant from the start than deal with penalties and audit headaches later. Don't let that contractor's accountant's bad advice put your business at risk!

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I've been following this thread closely because I'm in a nearly identical situation - $180k in contractor payments through various apps including Venmo, PayPal, and CashApp. What really sealed the deal for me was reading about the audit risk. The thought of the IRS seeing massive contractor expense deductions without corresponding 1099s was enough to make me take action immediately. I ended up using a combination of the tools mentioned here - taxr.ai helped me identify exactly which contractors needed forms, and when I had questions about specific edge cases, I used Claimyr to get direct IRS confirmation. Having that official guidance documented was incredibly valuable. For anyone still on the fence about this: the penalties for not filing required 1099s can add up to thousands of dollars, especially if you have multiple contractors. The peace of mind from being compliant is worth way more than the time and effort it takes to issue the forms. One thing I learned that might help others - when reaching out to contractors who are resistant to providing W9s, I found it helpful to explain that they need to report the income anyway, so the 1099 actually helps them by providing documentation of exactly what they received. Framing it as helping them rather than a burden made the conversations go much smoother. The bottom line is clear: issue those 1099-NECs regardless of payment method. Your business depends on it!

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This is such valuable insight, especially the part about framing the W9 request as helping the contractor rather than being a burden. I never thought about presenting it that way, but you're absolutely right - the 1099 actually provides them with official documentation of their income that they need to report anyway. I'm also dealing with contractors across multiple payment platforms and was getting overwhelmed by all the different requirements. Your point about the audit risk really hits home - $180k in deductions without proper 1099s would definitely raise red flags. The combination approach you mentioned sounds smart. Having both the analysis tools and direct IRS confirmation gives you bulletproof documentation if questions ever come up. I'm definitely going to look into both options. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear to stop second-guessing myself and just get compliant!

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This has been an incredibly thorough discussion that really cleared up my confusion about Venmo payments and 1099 requirements. As a newcomer to this community dealing with my first year managing contractors, I was getting completely overwhelmed by conflicting advice online. The key insight that finally clicked for me was understanding that my obligation as a business paying for services is completely separate from whatever reporting Venmo might do. Whether I pay by check, wire transfer, or Venmo doesn't change the fundamental requirement to issue 1099-NECs for services over $600. For anyone else in a similar situation, I found the combination of tools mentioned here really helpful - taxr.ai for analyzing my payment obligations and Claimyr for getting direct IRS confirmation when I had specific questions. Having that official guidance documented gave me confidence to move forward despite pushback from contractors. The backup withholding approach for resistant contractors also makes complete sense now. I was being too accommodating when I should have been protecting my business interests. A formal notice explaining 24% withholding on future payments tends to resolve W9 issues quickly. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and expertise. The consensus is crystal clear - issue those 1099-NECs regardless of payment method and protect your business!

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Welcome to the community! I'm glad this discussion has been helpful for you as a newcomer dealing with contractor payments. It really is overwhelming when you're trying to navigate these requirements for the first time, especially with all the conflicting information about payment apps floating around online. Your summary perfectly captures the key insight - the payment method is irrelevant to your 1099-NEC obligations. I went through the same confusion when I first started managing contractors and kept getting distracted by all the technical details about different payment processors when the core principle is much simpler. The tool combination you mentioned sounds like a smart approach for getting both automated analysis and official confirmation. Having that documentation trail is so valuable, especially when you're dealing with substantial contractor expenses like yours. You're absolutely right about being more assertive with resistant contractors. I learned the hard way that being too accommodating with W9 requests can put your entire business at risk. The backup withholding approach isn't harsh - it's just following the legal requirements to protect yourself. Thanks for sharing your experience working through this process. Your perspective as someone new to contractor management will definitely help other newcomers who find themselves in similar situations!

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