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I'm dealing with something very similar right now - buying a property from a family friend's LLC at below market value. After reading through all these responses, I'm realizing this is way more complicated than I initially thought! From what I'm gathering, the key issues seem to be: 1. The LLC selling below market creates a potential gift tax situation for the owner personally 2. Mortgage lenders may have issues with the LLC structure vs individual gifts of equity 3. Documentation is absolutely critical - appraisals, business justifications, proper contracts I'm curious - for those who've been through this, did you end up structuring it as a straight sale from the LLC, or did your friend distribute the property to himself first and then sell it individually? And did anyone run into issues with their mortgage lender not accepting the arrangement? Also wondering if anyone has experience with how long the IRS gift tax reporting process takes if you do need to file Form 709. My friend is worried about potential delays or complications that might affect our closing timeline. Thanks for all the detailed responses - this thread has been incredibly helpful in understanding what we're getting into!

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@Logan Stewart, I went through this exact situation about 6 months ago! We ended up keeping it as a direct sale from the LLC rather than distributing first, mainly because my friend's CPA said the distribution would trigger immediate tax consequences that made it more expensive overall. For the mortgage lender issue - I had to shop around. The first two lenders I talked to wouldn't touch it, but I found a local bank that was more flexible. They required extra documentation including a business valuation of the LLC, an independent appraisal, and a letter from the LLC's accountant explaining the transaction. The process took about 3 weeks longer than a normal purchase. On the gift tax reporting timeline - my friend filed Form 709 with his annual return and it didn't cause any delays. The IRS processed it normally since he was just reporting against his lifetime exemption, not paying actual gift tax. The key was having all the documentation ready (appraisal, sale contract, etc.) to support the gift amount calculation. One thing I'd add - make sure your friend checks his LLC operating agreement. Mine had restrictions on below-market sales that we had to address first. Would definitely recommend getting both tax and legal advice before proceeding!

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This is a really complex situation that touches on several areas of tax law. Based on what I've seen in practice, here are the key considerations: **Gift Tax Implications**: The LLC selling below market value will likely be treated as a gift from your friend (the LLC owner) to you for the difference. Since you mentioned a $58k discount and the annual gift exclusion is $17k per person ($34k for married couples), your friend would need to file Form 709 to report the excess against his lifetime exemption. **Documentation Requirements**: You'll absolutely need a professional appraisal to establish fair market value. This protects both of you and provides the documentation needed for tax reporting and mortgage approval. **Mortgage Lender Challenges**: Many lenders have strict guidelines about gifts of equity that assume individual-to-individual transfers. With an LLC involved, you may need to shop around for a lender willing to work with this structure. Be prepared for additional documentation requirements and potentially longer processing times. **Business Purpose**: Consider whether there are legitimate business reasons for the discount (quick sale, as-is condition, avoiding realtor fees, etc.) that could justify some portion of the reduced price. I'd strongly recommend your friend consult with both a tax professional and attorney before proceeding. The rules around related-party transactions through business entities can be tricky, and proper structuring upfront will save headaches later. Good luck with your purchase!

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm wondering about the timing aspect - if my friend needs to file Form 709, does that have to happen before our closing or can it wait until his next tax return? Also, you mentioned shopping around for lenders - are there specific types of lenders (community banks, credit unions, etc.) that tend to be more flexible with these LLC situations? I want to make sure we don't get halfway through the process only to find out our lender won't approve the structure.

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Liam Duke

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Quick suggestion - the IRS has an official Tax Withholding Estimator online that's actually pretty good: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/tax-withholding-estimator You enter both your incomes, current withholding from recent paystubs, and it gives you specific numbers to put on each W4. It's designed specifically for situations like yours with multiple jobs and disparate incomes. The calculator even lets you specify if you want a refund of a specific amount or if you want to break even. Might be worth trying before paying for any services!

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Thanks for suggesting this! I tried using it but kept getting error messages when I entered our full financial picture. It seems like the calculator has some limitations when the income disparity is really high like ours. I ended up using a combination of the multiple jobs worksheet and some additional calculations based on our specific situation. We're going with $750 additional withholding per paycheck for my wife instead of the full $827 the worksheet suggested. Figure we can always adjust midyear if it looks like we're significantly off track.

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Manny Lark

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Another option: just do estimated tax payments quarterly instead of messing with your W4s. That's what my wife and I do with our income disparity ($90K and $320K). We both just check "married" on our W4s without any adjustments, then make quarterly payments to cover the gap. The advantage is you can calculate it more precisely and adjust throughout the year as your income changes. Just use the 1040-ES worksheet to figure out how much to pay.

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Rita Jacobs

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Won't you get hit with an underpayment penalty if you don't have enough withheld from your paychecks? I thought the IRS requires you to pay as you earn throughout the year.

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Adriana Cohn

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I work for a tax preparation service and see this issue constantly during tax season. Here's what I tell my clients: if you can't get through to the Marketplace via phone after trying the tips mentioned here, you can also contact the IRS directly at 1-800-829-1040 and ask about filing without the 1095-A. The IRS has a process for taxpayers who are missing their 1095-A forms but still need to reconcile their advance premium tax credits. They can sometimes work with you using alternative documentation like bank statements showing your monthly premium payments, or enrollment records you have saved. Also important to note - if you received advance premium tax credits (which it sounds like you did with that $215/month), you MUST file Form 8962 to reconcile those credits, even if your 1095-A is missing. The IRS won't let you skip this step, but they do have procedures for handling missing forms. Don't panic about the deadline - as someone mentioned, you can always file an extension to buy more time while you sort out the documentation issues. The key is to at least get the extension filed by the original deadline to avoid penalties.

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Miguel Ortiz

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This is incredibly helpful professional advice! I had no idea the IRS had procedures for missing 1095-A forms. Quick question - when you mention using "alternative documentation like bank statements showing monthly premium payments," would screenshots from my bank's mobile app work, or do they specifically need official bank statements? Also, I'm a bit confused about Form 8962. My tax software keeps asking for the Marketplace Identifier before it will even let me access that form. Is there a way to fill out Form 8962 without having the specific numbers from the 1095-A, or do I need to contact the IRS first to get guidance on how to proceed without those identifiers? I really appreciate you taking the time to explain the professional perspective on this. It's reassuring to know there are actual procedures in place for this situation rather than just being stuck!

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For bank documentation, official statements are preferred, but screenshots from your banking app can work as supporting documentation if they clearly show the monthly premium payments and dates. The IRS wants to see a consistent pattern of payments that matches your coverage period. Regarding Form 8962 - you're right that most tax software requires the Marketplace Identifier to proceed. In cases where the 1095-A is missing, you'll likely need to either: 1) Get those specific numbers from the Marketplace first (using the tips others shared), or 2) Contact the IRS directly and they can guide you through filing Form 8962 with alternative information. The IRS procedure I mentioned typically involves calling their ACA line and explaining your situation. They can sometimes provide instructions for completing the form with estimated information, but you'll need to document that you attempted to obtain the 1095-A. Keep records of your calls to the Marketplace as proof of your efforts. If you're close to the deadline and still can't get the Marketplace numbers, definitely file that extension (Form 4868) to avoid penalties while you work through this process. The extension gives you until October, but remember you still need to pay any estimated taxes owed by the original deadline.

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Mateo Sanchez

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I've been following this thread and wanted to add another option that worked for me last tax season. If you're still having trouble getting through to the Marketplace, try contacting your insurance company's customer service directly. While they can't provide the Marketplace Identifier (that's unique to the 1095-A), they often have records of your enrollment through the Marketplace and can sometimes provide supporting documentation. When I called my insurer, they were able to send me a detailed coverage summary that included dates of coverage, premium amounts, and policy details that matched what would be on the 1095-A. While this wasn't a replacement for the actual form, it gave me enough information to work with the IRS when I called their ACA helpline. The insurance company rep also mentioned that they submit reports to the Marketplace, so they sometimes have more detailed records than what shows up in your online portal. It's worth a shot while you're trying the other suggestions - at minimum, they can confirm your coverage dates and premium amounts to make sure everything matches up when you do get your 1095-A. Also echoing what others said about filing the extension if needed - there's no shame in buying yourself more time to get the proper documentation rather than rushing and potentially making errors on your return.

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Just wanted to add a quick note about state taxes since everyone's been focusing on federal reporting. Don't forget that most states also require you to report gambling winnings on your state tax return, even if you didn't receive a W-2G. Each state has different rules - some states don't tax gambling winnings at all, while others tax them as regular income. Since you mentioned you're using multiple sportsbooks, make sure to check the tax laws in your state of residence. Also, if you placed bets while traveling to other states (like if you went to Vegas or crossed state lines to bet), you might need to file returns in those states too, depending on where the winnings were earned and each state's specific requirements. It's another layer of complexity, but definitely something to research based on your specific situation!

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Ava Kim

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This is such an important point that often gets overlooked! I made the mistake of not checking my state requirements last year and almost missed reporting my sportsbook winnings on my state return. I'm in Pennsylvania and learned that they tax gambling winnings as regular income, but they also allow you to deduct losses if you itemize on your state return (similar to federal). However, the rules were slightly different from the federal requirements, so I had to do separate calculations. For anyone reading this, definitely check your state's Department of Revenue website or consult with a tax professional familiar with your state's laws. Some states like Nevada, Tennessee, and others have no state income tax, so you'd only worry about federal reporting. But most states will want their share of your gambling winnings too. Also worth noting that some states have reciprocity agreements, so if you won money in a neighboring state, you might be able to avoid double taxation. But this varies widely by state, so it's really worth researching your specific situation.

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Rajan Walker

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Great thread everyone! As someone who went through this exact situation last year, I wanted to add a few practical tips that helped me navigate the sportsbook tax reporting process. One thing that really caught me off guard was how different each platform's year-end statements look. BetMGM's statement was pretty clear, but FanDuel and DraftKings formatted theirs completely differently, which made it confusing to ensure I was capturing all the right numbers. What I ended up doing was creating a simple Excel template with columns for: Date, Platform, Bet Type, Amount Wagered, Amount Won/Lost, and Net Result. Then I went through each platform's transaction history month by month and logged everything. It was tedious but gave me complete confidence in my numbers. Also, don't forget about any promotional credits or free bets you received! If you won money using bonus credits, those winnings are still taxable income even though you didn't technically risk your own money on that specific bet. One last tip - if you're close to the standard deduction threshold, run the numbers both ways (itemizing vs standard deduction) before deciding how to file. Sometimes the gambling loss deduction combined with other itemized deductions like state taxes or charitable contributions can push you over the standard deduction amount and save you money. The key is just staying organized and keeping everything documented. The IRS really does scrutinize gambling income, so better to be over-prepared!

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Ruby Garcia

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you! The Excel template idea is genius - I was dreading having to go through months of transaction history but breaking it down like that makes it seem much more manageable. Quick question about the promotional credits - if I used a $50 free bet and won $200, do I report the full $200 as income or just the $150 profit since the initial $50 wasn't my money? I received quite a few sign-up bonuses and free bets throughout the year and want to make sure I'm handling those correctly. Also, completely agree about running both scenarios. I'm right on the borderline between itemizing and standard deduction, so the gambling losses might actually tip the scales and save me some money if I have enough other deductions to make itemizing worthwhile.

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Mary Bates

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! As someone who just started getting PR packages this year, I was completely clueless about the tax implications. I've been treating them like birthday gifts from friends, which clearly was wrong! I'm definitely going to start implementing some of the tracking systems mentioned here. The photo documentation idea is brilliant - I can't believe I never thought to photograph everything as it arrives. And that email template from Dylan is exactly what I needed. One follow-up question for the group: do you track items you receive but never end up using or mentioning? I got sent this really expensive anti-aging serum that just doesn't work for my skin type, so it's been sitting unopened in my drawer. I assume it still counts as taxable income since I received it, but I'm curious how others handle products they can't actually use or review. Also, for anyone else feeling overwhelmed by this - it sounds like the key takeaways are: 1) Document everything immediately, 2) Get valuations from brands when possible, 3) Treat it all as business income, and 4) Consider quarterly payments if the amounts get substantial. Better to be overly cautious than face an audit unprepared!

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Yes, you're absolutely right that unused products still count as taxable income! The IRS doesn't care whether you actually use or review the items - what matters is that you received something of value from a business. Think of it like getting a paycheck but not spending the money - you still owe taxes on the income. For products you can't use, I'd suggest a couple things: First, still document them the same way (photos, value, etc.) since they're part of your taxable income. Second, consider if there are any business deductions you might be able to claim - for example, if you donate unused products to charity, you might be able to deduct the donation (though check with a tax professional on the specifics). Some creators I know actually reach out to brands when they receive products they can't use, explaining their skin type or preferences. Many brands appreciate the feedback and will note your preferences for future shipments. It's better business for everyone when the products sent actually match the creator's needs. Your summary is spot-on! Those four key points should keep most people on the right track. The documentation really is everything - I learned that the hard way during my audit process last year.

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Ruby Knight

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This has been such an eye-opening discussion! I'm relatively new to receiving PR packages and had no idea about the tax implications. Reading through everyone's experiences, especially the audit stories, has made me realize I need to get my documentation system in place ASAP. I love the practical tips shared here - the photo folder idea, email templates, and tracking spreadsheets are all going straight into my workflow. The point about quarterly payments is something I hadn't even considered, but with affiliate income on top of PR gifts, I'm probably going to hit that threshold sooner than expected. One thing I'm taking away is that it's better to over-report and over-document than to risk issues later. The IRS clearly takes this seriously, and having proper records seems to be the key to staying compliant. Thanks to everyone who shared their real experiences - this kind of practical advice is so much more valuable than trying to parse through vague IRS publications alone! Going to start implementing these systems today before my next PR packages arrive. Better late than never!

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Liam McGuire

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Welcome to the community, Ruby! I'm glad this discussion has been helpful for you as a newcomer to the PR package world. It's smart that you're getting your documentation system set up proactively - I wish I had done that from the beginning instead of scrambling to reconstruct everything later. One additional tip as you're starting out: consider setting up a dedicated email folder just for PR communications. I organize mine by brand and year, which makes it super easy to find correspondence about specific items when tax time comes around. Also, if you're planning to treat this as a business (which you should for tax purposes), you might want to look into getting a separate business bank account and credit card for any influencer-related expenses. It makes the bookkeeping so much cleaner. The fact that you're thinking about quarterly payments early shows you're already ahead of where most of us were when we started! Keep asking questions in this community - everyone here has been really generous with sharing their hard-earned knowledge and experiences.

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