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Yara Khalil

What's the process for filing a 1099 when my contractor won't give me their info or W9?

So I'm in a bit of a sticky situation here. I hired this contractor last year to help renovate part of my small business office. I paid him about $11,500 in total for the work, which I know is well above the $600 threshold for needing to file a 1099-NEC. The problem is, he's completely ghosting me now that I've asked multiple times for his W9 information. I've tried texting, calling, even drove by his workshop once, but he's clearly avoiding me. Tax season is coming up fast and I need to file my business taxes properly. I've heard something about potentially filing a 1099 anyway and putting in zeros for the TIN? Or is there some kind of form to report contractors who won't provide information? I don't want to get in trouble with the IRS for not filing the required forms, but I also can't get this guy to respond to me. Any advice would be really appreciated!

Keisha Brown

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This is unfortunately a common problem for small business owners. You're on the right track - you do need to file the 1099-NEC even if the contractor won't provide their information, but there's a specific process to follow. First, document all your attempts to obtain the W9 - save texts, emails, call logs, etc. The IRS wants to see you made a reasonable effort. Next, you'll need to file the 1099-NEC but instead of leaving the TIN blank or putting zeros, you'll need to implement backup withholding at the 24% rate. This means you should have withheld 24% of their payments for taxes, though I realize this is difficult if you've already paid them in full. You should also send the contractor a "B Notice" which is a backup withholding notice explaining that you're required to withhold taxes on future payments unless they provide their information. There's a sample letter on the IRS website you can use.

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Wait, so if they already paid the contractor in full without withholding anything, what are they supposed to do now? Won't they get in trouble for not withholding that 24%?

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Keisha Brown

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Great question. If you've already paid the contractor in full without withholding, you should still file the 1099-NEC with "Unknown" in the TIN field. You may be subject to the penalty for failure to backup withhold, but documenting your good faith efforts to obtain the information can help reduce or eliminate penalties. The IRS understands these situations happen. What's most important is that you file the required form rather than skipping it entirely. Moving forward with any other contractors, make sure to get W9 forms before making payments, and implement backup withholding immediately if they refuse to provide their information.

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Oliver Weber

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FireflyDreams

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Emma Anderson

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Another option is to report them to the IRS using Form 3949-A. This is an information referral form where you can report someone who you suspect isn't properly reporting their income. While this doesn't solve your immediate filing issue, it does create a record that you attempted to properly report payments to them.

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Yara Khalil

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Would filing that form protect me from penalties though? I'm more concerned about staying compliant on my end than getting them in trouble.

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Emma Anderson

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Filing Form 3949-A doesn't directly protect you from penalties, but it does create documentation that you were attempting to follow tax law. Your primary focus should still be filing the 1099-NEC with "Unknown" in the TIN field and documenting all your attempts to get their information. This form is more of a supplemental step that shows good faith compliance efforts, which the IRS does take into consideration when assessing penalties. The most important thing is to not skip filing the 1099-NEC entirely - that would definitely create problems.

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Slightly off topic but this is exactly why I now require ALL contractors to fill out W9 forms BEFORE I cut them their first check. No W9, no payment. Learned this lesson the hard way.

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Smart. What do you do about contractors who pushback on this? I've had some get really weird about providing their SSN even on an official W9.

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Emma Johnson

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I actually dealt with this exact situation two years ago with a plumber who did major work on my office building. After months of trying to get his W9, I ended up consulting with a tax professional who walked me through the process. Here's what I learned: You absolutely need to file the 1099-NEC even without their TIN. Put "Applied For" or "Unknown" in the TIN field - don't leave it blank or put zeros. The IRS wants to see that you're making the effort to comply. Make sure you keep detailed records of every attempt you made to get their information - screenshot those texts, save voicemail recordings if you have them, and consider sending one final certified letter requesting the W9. This documentation is crucial if you face any penalties later. The backup withholding situation is tricky since you've already paid in full, but as others mentioned, documenting your good faith efforts can help reduce or eliminate penalties. The key is showing the IRS you were trying to follow the rules, not circumvent them. Don't let this stress you into not filing at all - that would be much worse than filing with incomplete information!

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