How to deduct taxes from contractor without ITIN or SSN? 1099 filing question
So I've got this contractor who's been doing work for me, and I need to issue him a 1099. Problem is, he doesn't have an SSN or ITIN yet. He's in the process of getting legal status and expects to have his documentation by May next year, but I obviously need to file my taxes way before that deadline. I understand there are legal issues with hiring someone without proper documentation, but that's not what I'm asking about. He's already working as a 1099 contractor, and I just need to know the practical steps for tax reporting. What am I supposed to do about the W-9 form? Should he just put zeros like 000-00-0000 in the SSN/ITIN field as a placeholder until he gets the real number? How do I properly deduct these business expenses if he doesn't have a valid tax ID? I'm not looking for a lecture on immigration laws or hiring practices - I just need to know how to handle this specific tax situation. Has anyone dealt with this before?
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Sofia Morales
This is actually a common issue with a specific process to follow. When someone doesn't have an SSN or ITIN yet, they can't complete a valid W-9, and you can't properly issue a 1099 without a TIN (Taxpayer Identification Number). What you need to do is initiate "backup withholding" at the rate of 24% on payments to this contractor. You'd withhold this from their payments and submit it to the IRS. You should also have them fill out a W-9 and write "Applied For" in the TIN section - don't use zeros or made-up numbers as that could cause problems later. Once they get their ITIN or SSN, have them complete a new W-9, and you can stop the backup withholding. When it's time to file, you'll issue the 1099-NEC showing the payments made and the tax withheld. You should also give the contractor a letter explaining why you're withholding taxes, so they understand it's not optional but required by tax law when a TIN isn't provided.
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StarSailor
•Wait - so I have to withhold 24% from their payments myself? What if I've already paid them the full amount without withholding anything? Can I just deduct the full amount as a business expense anyway and let them deal with their own taxes when they get their ITIN?
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Sofia Morales
•If you've already paid them without withholding, you're technically liable for the 24% that should have been withheld. You have two options: either pay the 24% yourself to the IRS (which can be expensive), or you can withhold enough from future payments to make up for the previous lack of withholding. You can still deduct the payments as a legitimate business expense on your tax return, but you're also required to follow the backup withholding rules when a contractor doesn't provide a valid TIN. The IRS is pretty strict about this because it's one of their ways to ensure tax compliance for everyone involved.
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QuantumQuester
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Yara Nassar
Another approach that nobody mentioned yet - if your contractor is in the process of getting legal status and will have an ITIN soon, you could potentially file for an extension on your taxes. This would give you until October 15th to file, which might give your contractor enough time to get their ITIN. This doesn't solve the backup withholding issue for payments you've already made, but it could help simplify the reporting if you can wait for their actual number rather than having to amend returns later.
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Dylan Cooper
•But wouldn't I still have to pay the estimated taxes by April 15th? And how would this affect the 1099 deadline which I think is January 31st? I'm concerned about missing deadlines while waiting for their documentation.
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Yara Nassar
•You're right about both those deadlines. You would still need to pay your estimated taxes by April 15th even with an extension. And yes, the 1099-NEC deadline is January 31st, so that's a separate issue. For the 1099-NEC, you'd still need to file it on time, but if the contractor doesn't have an ITIN by then, you'd follow the backup withholding process others have mentioned. Then when they do get their ITIN, you might need to file a corrected 1099-NEC with their actual number. It's an extra step, but it keeps you compliant with the deadlines while allowing for the documentation delay.
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Keisha Williams
I think everyone's overcomplicating this. I've been in this exact situation a few times, and here's what I did: just file the 1099 using "000-00-0000" for now, then later file an amended/corrected 1099 once they get their ITIN. The most important thing is to show you're making the effort to report all payments properly.
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Sofia Morales
•This is actually incorrect advice that could result in penalties. Using "000-00-0000" or any made-up number on a tax form is considered invalid and potentially fraudulent. The IRS systems will flag this immediately. The correct approach is to mark "Applied For" on the W-9, implement backup withholding at 24%, and then file a corrected form when the actual ITIN is received.
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Adriana Cohn
I went through this exact situation last year and want to add some practical tips that helped me avoid mistakes. First, document EVERYTHING - keep copies of the W-9 with "Applied For" written in the TIN field, records of when your contractor applied for their ITIN, and all correspondence about the backup withholding. Second, when you start the 24% backup withholding, make sure to issue your contractor a written notice explaining why you're withholding and that it's required by law. This protects both of you if there are questions later. One thing that caught me off guard was that you need to deposit the withheld taxes using Form 8109 or EFTPS just like regular payroll taxes - you can't just hold onto the money until year-end. The IRS expects these deposits on their normal schedule. Also, keep in mind that once your contractor gets their ITIN and provides a corrected W-9, you can stop the backup withholding going forward, but you'll still need to issue the 1099-NEC showing both the total payments and the amount withheld for backup withholding.
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