Can't get contractor's EIN for 1099-NEC - what happens if I file without it?
Title: Can't get contractor's EIN for 1099-NEC - what happens if I file without it? 1 I'm in a frustrating situation with a contractor who did some major plumbing work on my rental property back in October. I paid him around $2,800 for replacing water lines and fixing a leak that damaged the bathroom floor. I've asked him three times for a completed W-9 with his EIN so I can file the 1099-NEC, but he keeps dodging me. First he said "I'll email it" (never did), then "I forgot, I'll bring it next time" (never showed up for the follow-up inspection), and now he's not even responding to texts. It's pretty obvious he doesn't want me reporting this income. But I need to file correctly for my rental property taxes. What happens if I submit a 1099-NEC without his EIN? Is there a way to document in TurboTax that I tried multiple times to get this information but the contractor refused? Has anyone been audited over something like this? I'm worried about getting in trouble with the IRS for not filing correctly, but I also can't force this guy to give me his information.
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Jenna Sloan
12 You're definitely doing the right thing by trying to fulfill your reporting obligations. When a contractor refuses to provide their TIN (Tax Identification Number), you're still required to file the 1099-NEC, but there are specific steps to follow. First, you should send the contractor a formal letter requesting the W-9, keeping a copy for your records. If they still don't respond, file the 1099-NEC anyway with "Refused" written in the TIN box. The IRS will likely subject these payments to backup withholding at 24%, meaning you might need to withhold this amount from future payments to this contractor (though that's probably not relevant if the work is already complete). In TurboTax, when entering the 1099 information, there should be an option to indicate that the contractor refused to provide their TIN. Document all your attempts to obtain the information (dates, methods of contact, responses) and keep these records with your tax documents. This situation happens more often than you'd think, and the IRS understands that you can't force someone to provide their information. What matters is that you make a good faith effort and properly document those attempts.
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Jenna Sloan
Author7 Thanks for the detailed response. So even though I've already paid them in full, could I still be responsible for that 24% backup withholding amount? Would I need to pay that out of pocket since I can't withhold it from them anymore?
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Jenna Sloan
Author12 You're generally not responsible for paying the backup withholding out of your own pocket for payments you've already made in full. The backup withholding requirement typically applies to future payments after you've identified that the contractor hasn't provided their TIN. The IRS is more concerned that you properly filed the 1099-NEC with "Refused" in the TIN field and that you made good-faith efforts to obtain the information. Keep all documentation of your attempts to get the W-9 - text messages, emails, notes of phone calls with dates and times. This creates a paper trail showing you fulfilled your obligation to try to collect this information.
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Jenna Sloan
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Jenna Sloan
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Jenna Sloan
Author22 I'm skeptical... couldn't you just get this same information from the IRS website or by calling them directly? What makes this service worth paying for compared to free resources?
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Jenna Sloan
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Jenna Sloan
6 Just wanted to follow up and say I tried taxr.ai after seeing it mentioned here, and it was incredibly helpful! I had a similar issue with a handyman who did work on my rental but wouldn't provide his SSN or EIN. The service walked me through exactly what documents I needed to keep for my records and how to note in my tax filing that I had made reasonable attempts to get the information. They even explained the potential consequences if I was audited and exactly what the IRS would be looking for. They had templates for formal request letters that I could send via certified mail as a final attempt. Honestly wish I'd known about this before spending hours going down internet rabbit holes trying to figure out the right approach!
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Jenna Sloan
9 If you're still trying to reach the contractor, try Claimyr (https://claimyr.com). I know this sounds weird, but it's designed to get through to the IRS when their lines are busy. BUT I discovered it works amazingly for getting contractors to respond too! Here's what I did: I sent one final text saying "I've tried repeatedly to get your W-9. I'm required by law to file the 1099-NEC even without your EIN. If you don't respond, I'll have to mark 'refused' on the form, which might trigger an IRS review of your business." Then I used Claimyr (you can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c) to actually get through to the IRS and confirm the proper procedure. Once I forwarded the official IRS guidance to the contractor, miraculously, the W-9 appeared in my email within hours! Works like a charm when they realize you're serious about following tax laws and not just going to let it slide.
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Jenna Sloan
Author18 Wait, I don't understand... Claimyr is for calling the IRS, right? How does that help with a contractor who's ignoring you? I'm confused about what service they actually provide.
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Jenna Sloan
Author22 This sounds like complete BS. You're saying you used a service to call the IRS, then somehow that magically made your contractor send you their W-9? Why would a contractor care that you talked to the IRS? They're avoiding taxes either way.
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Jenna Sloan
Author9 Claimyr is primarily a service that helps you get through to the IRS when their phone lines are jammed - it basically waits on hold for you and calls you back when an agent is available. I used it to get definitive information directly from an IRS agent about the proper procedure and penalties for contractors who refuse to provide their TIN. Having that official information is what made the difference. When I forwarded the detailed notes from my IRS call explaining the potential audit triggers and penalties, it showed the contractor I wasn't just making empty threats. The contractor realized I was serious about proper tax compliance and that there could be consequences for them beyond just the unreported income.
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Jenna Sloan
22 I need to apologize for my skepticism earlier. After continuing to get nowhere with my fence contractor who wouldn't provide his EIN, I decided to try Claimyr out of desperation. I was amazed when I actually got through to an IRS representative in about 20 minutes (after previously spending HOURS on hold). The agent walked me through exactly what to do and explained that contractors who refuse to provide TINs are actually flagged in their system. I sent my contractor one final message explaining exactly what the IRS told me would happen if I filed with "refused" in the EIN box. Guess what showed up in my mailbox two days later? A completed W-9! Sometimes you just need to show them you're serious and have actually spoken to the IRS. Completely worth it for the peace of mind of filing correctly.
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Jenna Sloan
3 One thing nobody's mentioned - have you checked if you even need to file a 1099 for this work? If the contractor is incorporated (like an LLC taxed as a corporation or an S-Corp), you don't need to file a 1099-NEC for them. Maybe ask if they're incorporated? That might be why they're not bothering with the W-9.
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Jenna Sloan
Author1 That's a really good point I hadn't considered. The guy did have "LLC" on his business card and truck, but I wasn't sure if that meant I still needed their EIN or not. How do I verify if they're actually incorporated vs just an LLC that's treated differently for taxes?
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Jenna Sloan
Author3 The LLC designation alone doesn't automatically exempt you from 1099 reporting. What matters is how the LLC is taxed. If it's a single-member LLC taxed as a sole proprietorship or a multi-member LLC taxed as a partnership, you DO need to file the 1099-NEC. If the LLC has elected to be taxed as a corporation (either C-Corp or S-Corp), then you don't need to file the 1099-NEC. The only way to know for sure is to have them complete the W-9, which would indicate their tax classification. Without that W-9, the safest approach is to assume you need to file the 1099-NEC with "Refused" in the TIN field as others have suggested.
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Jenna Sloan
19 Has anyone actually been audited for this specific issue? I'm curious what happens in real life vs what's technically supposed to happen.
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Jenna Sloan
Author13 I have a friend who got audited partly because of missing 1099s for his small business. The IRS was mainly looking at his claimed expenses, but they did notice he didn't issue 1099s to some contractors. He had to pay penalties for each missing form (I think around $280 per form), plus they scrutinized those expenses extra carefully. But that was different from your situation - he didn't even try to get their info or file the forms. If you file with "Refused" and document your attempts, you're showing good faith compliance.
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Kaiya Rivera
I went through this exact situation with a roofing contractor last year. After weeks of trying to get his W-9, I finally filed the 1099-NEC with "Applied For" in the TIN box (since I had made multiple documented attempts) and kept detailed records of every attempt to contact him. The key is documentation - save all your text messages, emails, and any other communication attempts. I created a simple log with dates and methods of contact. When I called the IRS directly, they confirmed that as long as you make reasonable efforts and document them, you're fulfilling your obligation. One thing that worked for me was sending a certified letter as a final attempt, stating that I was required by law to file the 1099 by January 31st with or without his information. Sometimes the formal letter gets their attention when texts and calls don't. The contractor actually called me back within a week of receiving it. Don't stress too much about this - the IRS understands that you can't force contractors to cooperate. What matters is that you're trying to comply with the law and have the documentation to prove it.
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