Subcontractor provided fake W-9 with made up name and SSN - what are the consequences for me?
I'm in a sticky situation with one of my subcontractors. I asked him to fill out a W-9 form, and I'm pretty sure he completely fabricated the information. He put down a name that isn't his actual name and almost certainly made up a Social Security Number too. He signed the form and everything, but I know for a fact that's not his real name, so I'm assuming the SSN is fake as well. I think he's trying to avoid paying taxes on the income. What I'm worried about now is - what happens when I file my 1099 based on this fake W-9 information? Am I responsible for verifying that the information he provided is legitimate? Do I have any liability here? Who's going to face consequences when the IRS realizes the information doesn't match up to a real person? Will I be penalized for submitting incorrect information even though he's the one who falsified the document? I've paid him about $9,700 so far this year.
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Toot-n-Mighty
This is definitely a serious situation. You could potentially face penalties for filing an incorrect 1099 with the IRS, even though you weren't the one who provided false information. As a business owner, you do have some responsibility to ensure the information you're submitting to the IRS is accurate. The IRS typically requires businesses to obtain a W-9 from contractors and make a good-faith effort to verify the information. If you knowingly file a 1099 with information you believe to be false, you could be considered complicit in tax fraud. Your best course of action is to approach your subcontractor again and explain that you cannot process payments without a legitimate W-9. Let them know that providing false information on a W-9 is a federal offense that can result in penalties and even criminal charges. You might need to consider whether continuing your business relationship is worth the risk.
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Lena Kowalski
•But how exactly are we supposed to verify W-9 info? I'm not the IRS, I don't have access to a database of all SSNs to check against. Is there some verification service business owners can use?
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Toot-n-Mighty
•There's no public database where you can verify SSNs, which does make this challenging. The IRS offers a Taxpayer Identification Number (TIN) Matching Program for certain businesses that file information returns. You can apply for this through the IRS e-Services. For most small businesses, though, verification usually means ensuring the W-9 is fully completed, signed, and doesn't contain obvious errors like a SSN with too few digits. If you know the person is using a fake name, that's a red flag you can't ignore. You might also consider requesting to see identification that matches the name on the W-9, though this isn't strictly required.
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Mei-Ling Chen
•Does it actually verify SSNs though? Like can it tell if an SSN is completely made up or belongs to someone else?
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Sofía Rodríguez
•I'm curious how this actually works. I thought only the IRS had the ability to actually verify tax ID numbers. What kind of documentation did you have to provide to use the service?
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DeShawn Washington
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•Wait, how does that even work? Sounds like some kind of scam to me. The IRS phone system is a nightmare by design.
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Fatima Al-Rashid
You need to issue what's called a "B Notice" to your contractor. This is an IRS backup withholding notice that essentially says "The info you provided doesn't match IRS records, fix it or I have to withhold 24% of your payments for federal taxes." You're required to start backup withholding if they don't provide a corrected W-9 within a certain timeframe. If the contractor refuses to provide correct info, you must start withholding 24% of all payments and send that money to the IRS. It sucks, but if you don't, YOU will be responsible for that 24% out of your own pocket plus penalties.
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Giovanni Rossi
•But if I don't know their real SSN, how would I do backup withholding? Where would I send the money?
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Fatima Al-Rashid
•You don't need their real SSN to do backup withholding. You would submit the funds to the IRS using the name and SSN/TIN that were provided on the W-9, along with Form 945 (Annual Return of Withheld Federal Income Tax). The IRS knows how to handle this situation - they'll attempt to match it to a real taxpayer, and if they can't, they'll still keep the withheld taxes. When you file your 1099-NEC, you would use the same information that was provided on the W-9, but you would indicate that backup withholding was applied. The important thing is that you comply with your legal obligation to withhold and remit the taxes, which protects you from liability.
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Aaliyah Jackson
I think people are overthinking this. Just tell your subcontractor that you can't pay them anymore without correct documentation. They'll either give you correct info or you stop using them. Pretty simple.
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KylieRose
•Not that simple if you've already paid them $9,700 this year. The IRS is gonna want to know where that money went and will expect a 1099 to be filed.
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Ava Thompson
You're absolutely right to be concerned about this situation. When you file a 1099 with information you know or suspect to be false, you could face penalties even though you weren't the one who provided the fake information. The IRS holds payers responsible for exercising reasonable due diligence. Here's what I'd recommend: First, document everything - keep records of your attempts to get correct information from the contractor. Send them a written request for a corrected W-9, explaining that you cannot process further payments without accurate information. Give them a reasonable deadline (like 30 days). If they refuse or continue to provide false information, you have a few options: 1) Stop working with them entirely, 2) Begin backup withholding at 24% on future payments, or 3) Report the situation to the IRS directly. For the $9,700 already paid, you'll likely need to file the 1099 with whatever information you have, but include documentation showing your good faith efforts to obtain correct information. Consider consulting with a tax professional about your specific situation, as the penalties for knowingly filing false information returns can be substantial.
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Diego Vargas
•This is really helpful advice, especially the part about documenting everything. I'm dealing with something similar right now and wasn't sure about the backup withholding process. When you say "report the situation to the IRS directly," is there a specific form or department for reporting suspected tax ID fraud by contractors? I want to make sure I'm protecting myself properly if my contractor won't cooperate with providing correct information.
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Malik Robinson
This is a really complex situation that many business owners face. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is that you should also consider the possibility that your subcontractor might be an undocumented worker who doesn't have a valid SSN but still needs to work. In that case, they might be eligible for an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) instead. You could suggest they apply for an ITIN if they don't have a valid SSN - this would allow them to pay taxes legally while still working with you. The IRS Form W-7 is used to apply for an ITIN, and it's specifically designed for people who need to file tax returns but aren't eligible for an SSN. That said, if they're deliberately trying to avoid taxes entirely and refuse to provide any legitimate tax ID, then you definitely need to protect yourself. The backup withholding route mentioned by others is probably your safest bet for future payments. For the $9,700 already paid, definitely keep detailed records of all your attempts to get correct documentation - this shows good faith effort if the IRS ever questions it. Have you tried explaining to your subcontractor that providing false information on a W-9 is actually a federal crime? Sometimes people don't realize the serious legal consequences and might be more willing to cooperate once they understand the risks.
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Marina Hendrix
•That's a really good point about the ITIN option - I hadn't thought of that possibility. It makes sense that someone might not have an SSN but could still get an ITIN to work legally. Do you know how long the ITIN application process typically takes? I'm wondering if it's something that could be done quickly enough to resolve the immediate situation, or if the business owner would still need to deal with backup withholding in the meantime while waiting for the ITIN to be processed.
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Amara Okafor
•The ITIN application process typically takes 7-11 weeks during normal processing times, but it can be longer during peak tax season. So unfortunately it's not a quick fix for your immediate situation. You'd probably need to implement backup withholding for any payments made while waiting for the ITIN to be processed. However, there is an expedited process available in certain circumstances. If your subcontractor needs the ITIN to meet a tax filing deadline or other urgent business need, they can visit a Taxpayer Assistance Center in person with their completed W-7 and supporting documents. This can sometimes reduce the processing time significantly. Another option is working with a Certified Acceptance Agent (CAA) who can help verify the documents and submit the application, which might speed things up slightly. But realistically, @e480fd855cf4 is right that this is more of a long-term solution than something that will resolve the current $9,700 situation immediately.
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Tyrone Johnson
I've been in a similar situation and it's definitely stressful. One thing to keep in mind is that the IRS has specific procedures for when you receive a CP2100 or CP2100A notice (which happens when the name/TIN combination you reported doesn't match their records). If you file the 1099 with the information from the W-9 and it doesn't match IRS records, you'll get one of these notices. At that point, you're required to contact your contractor to get corrected information. If they don't provide it within 30 days, you must start backup withholding on future payments. For the $9,700 already paid, you'll likely need to file the 1099 anyway since the IRS expects reporting for payments over $600. Just make sure you document your efforts to obtain correct information. The key is showing you acted in good faith - save all emails, texts, or written requests you've made for proper documentation. One other consideration: some contractors legitimately don't know the difference between their SSN and an ITIN, or they might have a pending ITIN application. It's worth having a direct conversation about what specific tax identification they actually have before assuming malicious intent.
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