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I was in the same boat last year! One thing nobody mentioned yet - you can actually use the free filing options through the IRS website if your income is under certain limits. I used FreeTaxUSA and it walked me through the Schedule C stuff for my etsy shop. Took like 20 minutes.

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StarStrider

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Which free filing option did you use? I tried using the "free" TurboTax but as soon as I mentioned self-employment income they wanted to charge me $120! Such a scam.

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I used FreeTaxUSA which is completely free for federal returns (you only pay like $15 for state if needed). Unlike TurboTax which tries to upsell you the moment you mention any business income, FreeTaxUSA includes Schedule C and Schedule SE in their free version. The interface isn't as fancy as TurboTax but it gets the job done. It walked me through all the self-employment stuff and helped me identify deductions I could take for my art supplies and equipment. Definitely saved me from paying those ridiculous fees that other tax software charges for "premium" features that should be standard. Just make sure you have all your income and expense records organized before you start - the software is only as good as the information you put into it!

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This is really helpful! I've been doing small art commissions through PayPal for about 8 months now and made around $680 total. I was dreading having to pay for expensive tax software just to file a simple Schedule C. Does FreeTaxUSA handle the PayPal fee deductions automatically, or do you have to manually enter those as business expenses? Also, did you run into any issues with calculating the self-employment tax portion? That's the part that confuses me the most - I keep seeing different percentages mentioned online.

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Something else to consider - you might be eligible for a whistleblower reward if the IRS collects taxes based on your information. If the amount exceeds $2 million, you could get 15-30% of what they collect. Even for smaller amounts, you might still get something. Just use Form 211 instead of or in addition to Form 3949-A.

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Jamal Carter

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Wait seriously? I had no idea there were rewards for reporting tax cheats. Do you know how long these investigations typically take before they determine if you get a reward?

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Whistleblower claims can take YEARS - we're talking 5-7 years in many cases. The IRS has to complete their investigation, collect the taxes, and wait until the taxpayer has exhausted all appeal rights before they'll pay a reward. For smaller cases (under $2 million), rewards are actually discretionary and max out at 15%. The big rewards of up to 30% are only for the larger cases. It's definitely not quick money, but if you have solid evidence of significant fraud, it might be worth pursuing alongside the standard reporting forms.

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Mei Liu

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I reported my previous employer for almost the exact same thing in 2023. They were calling everyone "contractors" even though we worked regular 9-5 schedules in their building using their equipment. Make sure you document EVERYTHING before you leave - copies of schedules, emails about your duties, anything showing they controlled how/when you worked.

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Did anything ever come of your report? Did the IRS actually investigate or did it just disappear into a black hole?

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Brady Clean

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This is exactly the kind of complex tax situation where having proper documentation from day one is crucial. I've seen too many businesses get into trouble with the IRS because they didn't establish clear policies upfront. A few additional considerations that might help: **Allocation Method**: Consider using a "days available" method to allocate costs. If the suite is available 365 days per year, but only used for entertainment 50-60 days, you might be able to argue that a larger portion should be treated as facility rental rather than entertainment. **Business Purpose Documentation**: Create a standard form for each suite usage that captures: date, attendees, business purpose, topics discussed, and outcomes. This becomes invaluable if you face an audit. **Separate the LLC's Books**: Make sure the LLC maintains separate books and records. Each member company should receive detailed K-1s showing their share of different types of expenses (facility rental vs. entertainment). **Consider Revenue Recognition**: Since you mentioned the LLC will have some revenue from reselling unused tickets, make sure you're properly accounting for this income and how it affects the overall deduction calculations. The fact that you're asking these questions upfront puts you way ahead of most businesses. Document everything, work with a qualified CPA, and you should be in good shape. The key is being able to demonstrate legitimate business purpose for the arrangement.

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This is really comprehensive advice, thank you! The "days available" allocation method is something I hadn't considered but makes a lot of sense for our situation. Since we have access Monday-Friday during business hours year-round, that's potentially 260+ days of pure business facility usage versus maybe 40-50 actual event days. One follow-up question - when you mention creating K-1s for each member company, does the LLC need to elect partnership taxation, or does this happen automatically? We haven't made any specific tax elections yet and I want to make sure we're set up correctly from the start. Also, for the business purpose documentation form you mentioned - is there a particular format or level of detail that works best for IRS scrutiny? I'd rather over-document than under-document at this point.

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Great questions! For the LLC tax election - if you don't make a specific election, a multi-member LLC is automatically treated as a partnership for federal tax purposes, so yes, you'll be issuing K-1s to each member company. This is actually what you want for this situation since it allows the pass-through treatment of the different expense categories. For the business purpose documentation, I'd suggest a simple form that captures: Date, Duration of business use, Attendees (name, company, role), Primary business purpose, Specific topics discussed, Follow-up actions/outcomes, and whether any entertainment component was involved. The IRS looks for contemporaneous records, so complete these same-day or next-day, not months later when preparing taxes. One more tip on the "days available" method - make sure your lease agreement supports this interpretation. If the lease specifically allocates costs to events vs. general facility access, that strengthens your position. If not, you might want to consider an amendment that clarifies the breakdown between facility rental and event access components. Also document any actual business meetings held in the suite on non-event days with agendas, attendee lists, and meeting minutes. This creates a paper trail showing legitimate business facility usage that's completely separate from any entertainment aspects.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful - thank you all for sharing your experiences! I'm seeing a pattern here that proper documentation and allocation methodology are absolutely critical for these suite arrangements. One thing I wanted to add that hasn't been mentioned yet: consider the optics and "reasonableness" test from the IRS perspective. Even if you follow all the technical rules perfectly, luxury suite expenses can still draw scrutiny simply because they seem excessive for smaller businesses. To strengthen your position, I'd recommend: 1. **Comparative Analysis**: Document that the suite arrangement is actually more cost-effective than alternatives (hotel meeting rooms, catering venues, etc.) when used for legitimate business meetings 2. **Industry Benchmarking**: If your industry commonly uses entertainment for client relations, document this as standard business practice 3. **Revenue Connection**: Track and document any actual business generated from suite usage - new clients, deals closed, partnerships formed, etc. 4. **Professional Appearance**: Make sure the suite usage supports your business image and client expectations in your industry The IRS will often challenge luxury expenses not just on technical grounds, but on whether they're "ordinary and necessary" for your specific business. Having a clear business case beyond just tax optimization will serve you well if questioned. Also, since you're in Michigan, be aware that the state may have different rules about what constitutes deductible entertainment expenses, especially if any of the member companies are professional services firms subject to additional restrictions.

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Oliver Schulz

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This is such a valuable point about the "reasonableness" and optics considerations! I've been so focused on the technical allocation rules that I hadn't really thought about how to justify the business necessity aspect. Your suggestion about comparative analysis is brilliant - we could actually document the cost per meeting/event compared to booking conference rooms at hotels or event venues. Given that we're splitting the suite cost among 6 companies, the per-use cost for legitimate business meetings might actually be quite reasonable. The industry benchmarking point is interesting too. In our case, several of the member companies are in professional services (accounting, law, consulting) where client entertainment is pretty standard practice. Would it help to document that our competitors or peer firms use similar arrangements? One question on the revenue connection tracking - how specific does this need to be? Like if we have a client meeting in the suite and then close a deal with that client 3 months later, is that too indirect of a connection to document as business benefit from the suite usage?

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Maya Jackson

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Anyone know if this is something the BBB would handle? My grandma swears by reporting everything to them but idk if they actually do anything about tax stuff.

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The BBB is basically just Yelp for old people. They're a private organization with zero enforcement power - all they can do is ask the business to respond to your complaint. For actual tax violations, you need government agencies with real authority to investigate and enforce laws.

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Sofia Torres

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Just wanted to add another perspective - if you're comfortable doing so, consider documenting this with photos or video next time you shop there. Take a picture of the items you're buying, the receipt showing the incorrect tax rate, and maybe even the store's posted prices. This creates a clear paper trail that investigators can use. Also, check if your state has a "whistleblower" protection program for tax fraud reporting. Some states actually offer financial rewards if your report leads to recovered tax revenue, and they provide legal protection against retaliation. Might be worth looking into since this sounds like it could be a significant amount of money they've collected illegally over time. Keep us updated on what happens! These kinds of posts help other community members know what to watch out for.

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Sean Kelly

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As someone who's dealt with Box 14 confusion for years, I'd recommend keeping a copy of your pay stubs alongside your W-2. The codes in Box 14 usually match up with deductions you see throughout the year on your paystubs, which can help you understand what each entry represents. For New Jersey specifically, those NJSUI/SDI and NJWFD codes are standard - every NJ employee will see these. The amounts should roughly match what you'd calculate using the percentages Ryan mentioned above. If there's a big discrepancy, that might be worth checking with your payroll department, but otherwise you're all set!

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That's great advice about keeping pay stubs! I wish I had thought of that earlier. I was so confused when I first saw those NJ codes, but now that you mention it, I can probably find them on my old pay stubs to verify the amounts match up. It's reassuring to know that everyone in NJ sees these same codes - makes me feel less like I'm missing something important. Thanks for the tip about checking with payroll if there are discrepancies too. This whole thread has been super helpful for understanding Box 14!

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Vera Visnjic

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One thing I learned the hard way is to double-check that your employer coded everything correctly in Box 14. Last year my company accidentally put my parking benefits under the wrong code and it caused confusion when I was doing my taxes. Most of the time Box 14 entries are just informational like everyone said, but occasionally there might be something that affects your tax liability. For NJ specifically, those codes you mentioned are totally standard and won't impact your actual tax calculation - they're just showing what was already withheld. But it's always worth taking a few minutes to understand what each entry means, especially if you see any codes you don't recognize. Better to ask now than get surprised later!

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Mei Zhang

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That's a really good point about double-checking the coding! I never would have thought that employers could make mistakes with those Box 14 entries. It makes me want to go back and look more carefully at mine now. For someone new to this like me, is there an easy way to tell if something in Box 14 might actually affect my taxes versus just being informational? I'm pretty confident about the NJ codes everyone has explained, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything else that might be hiding in there.

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