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Zainab Ahmed

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're considering the difference between short-term and long-term capital gains/losses. They're taxed at different rates! Short-term gains (assets held less than a year) are taxed at your ordinary income rate, while long-term gains get preferential lower tax rates. When calculating your net position, short-term losses first offset short-term gains, and long-term losses offset long-term gains. If you have excess in one category, then it can offset the other category. For your specific situation with the $700 net loss, it doesn't matter much, but if you're trying to be strategic about which positions to sell, the holding period can make a big difference in the tax impact.

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Liam McGuire

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Thanks for bringing up the short vs long term distinction! In my case, most of my gains are actually short-term (held about 8 months) while the losses are from positions I've held for almost 2 years. Does that change how I should approach this? Should I be more strategic about which positions I sell?

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Zainab Ahmed

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In your situation, it might be more tax-efficient to sell your long-term loss positions to offset your short-term gains. Since short-term gains are taxed at a higher rate (your ordinary income rate), using your long-term losses to offset those higher-taxed gains could save you more in taxes. If you're looking to minimize your current tax liability, consider realizing enough losses to offset all your short-term gains first. Then if you still want additional tax benefits, you could realize more losses up to the point where you can take the maximum $3,000 deduction against ordinary income. Just be careful not to trigger wash sale rules if you plan to repurchase any of these securities.

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Noah Irving

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Great question about capital loss deductions! Just to clarify the mechanics for anyone else reading - when you have a net capital loss like your $700, you can indeed deduct it dollar-for-dollar against your ordinary income, up to the $3,000 annual limit. The key thing to understand is that capital losses first offset capital gains (which you've calculated correctly), and then any remaining net loss can reduce your other taxable income. Since your net loss is only $700, you'll be able to deduct the full amount this year. One additional consideration: if you're close to year-end, you might want to review whether you have any other positions with unrealized gains or losses. Sometimes it makes sense to do a bit more tax-loss harvesting to optimize your overall tax situation, especially if you're in a higher tax bracket where every deduction counts more.

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This is really helpful! I'm new to investing and tax planning, so I appreciate the clear explanation. When you mention "tax-loss harvesting," what exactly does that mean? Is that just strategically selling losing positions to offset gains, or is there more to it? I want to make sure I understand the concept before I start making any moves with my own portfolio.

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Diego Vargas

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Just to clarify something important - whatever you claim, make sure you're getting receipts and the provider's tax ID number (EIN) or their Social Security number. The IRS requires you to report this information on Form 2441 when you claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit. I made this mistake once and had my return rejected. Had to go back to all my providers and get their tax info. Some smaller operations or individual instructors might be reluctant to provide this info (especially if they're not reporting the income), which is another indication they probably don't qualify as care providers for this credit.

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Thanks for mentioning this! I didn't even think about needing their tax ID info. The Taekwondo place is a legitimate business with receipts, but based on everyone's feedback, it sounds like they wouldn't qualify anyway since it's instructional rather than care. I think I'll stick with claiming only our regular daycare expenses and not try to include the Taekwondo. Better safe than sorry with tax stuff!

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Smart decision, Natasha! You're absolutely right to be cautious with tax claims. The distinction between care and instruction can be tricky, but the IRS is pretty strict about it. One thing that might help for future reference - if your daughter ever needs actual childcare (like during school breaks when you're working), look for programs that explicitly market themselves as "childcare" or "supervision" rather than just activities or classes. Even if they include fun activities like martial arts, the key is that their primary purpose is caring for children while parents work. Also, don't forget that your regular daycare expenses can be substantial for the credit - up to $3,000 per child or $6,000 for multiple children, with credit rates between 20-35% depending on your income. That's often a bigger benefit than trying to squeeze in borderline activities anyway.

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GalaxyGazer

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This is really helpful advice! I'm new to navigating childcare tax credits and this whole conversation has been eye-opening. The distinction between "care" and "instruction" seems to be the key thing the IRS looks at. I'm curious - for those summer programs that do qualify, do they need to explicitly state "childcare" in their marketing materials, or is it enough if the program runs during typical work hours and parents clearly use it for childcare purposes? I'm trying to plan ahead for this summer and want to make sure I choose programs that will actually qualify for the credit. Also, does anyone know if there are income limits for this credit? I want to make sure we're not over the threshold before I start calculating potential benefits.

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Alana Willis

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I feel your pain on this - I had almost the exact same shock last year when I started doing freelance consulting work. The 33% effective rate you're seeing is actually pretty normal when you factor in both the self-employment tax (15.3%) AND the fact that your 1099 income gets added on top of your W-2 income for determining your tax bracket. One thing that helped me was setting up a separate savings account specifically for taxes and automatically transferring 30% of every 1099 payment I received. It sounds like a lot, but it prevented the sticker shock at tax time. Also, don't forget you can deduct half of your self-employment tax as an adjustment to income - it's not huge but every bit helps. For this year, definitely look into all possible business deductions. Even things like a portion of your rent if you have a dedicated home office space, or professional development courses related to your freelance work. Those calculators rarely account for the deductions you can actually claim as a freelancer.

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Tate Jensen

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This is really helpful advice about the separate savings account! I wish I had thought of that earlier. Setting aside 30% of each payment as it comes in would have definitely made this less of a shock. I'm going to start doing that going forward. The home office deduction is something I hadn't considered - I do have a desk setup in my bedroom that I use exclusively for freelance work. Do you know if it has to be a completely separate room, or can it be a dedicated area within a room? Also, what kind of documentation do I need to keep for professional development courses? I took a couple of online courses last year that were directly related to my freelance skills but I'm not sure if I kept all the receipts.

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Emma Olsen

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The sticker shock you're experiencing is completely normal for new freelancers! That 33% effective rate is actually pretty typical when you combine federal income tax, self-employment tax (15.3%), and the fact that your 1099 income gets stacked on top of your W-2 earnings. Here's what likely happened with those online calculators - they probably treated your freelance income in isolation rather than considering how it pushes you into higher tax brackets when combined with your regular job. At $19K in additional income on top of your W-2, you're likely hitting the 22% federal bracket on at least part of that freelance money. A few immediate things to consider: - Make sure you're claiming all legitimate business expenses (laptop, software, home office space, even partial internet/phone bills) - Look into the QBI deduction (Section 199A) - you can potentially deduct 20% of your business income - Don't forget the deduction for half of your self-employment tax For next year, I'd strongly recommend making quarterly estimated payments. The "safe harbor" rule means if you pay 100% of this year's total tax liability through withholding and quarterlies, you won't face underpayment penalties even if you owe more. It spreads out the financial impact and prevents that brutal lump sum surprise. The reality is freelance work comes with a much higher tax burden than W-2 income, but proper planning and deductions can definitely bring that percentage down closer to the 25-28% range.

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This breakdown is incredibly helpful! I think you nailed exactly what happened with my situation. I was definitely thinking about the freelance income in isolation rather than understanding how it would stack with my W-2. The 22% bracket explanation makes total sense now - I had no idea that's how it worked. I'm going to look into that QBI deduction you mentioned since multiple people have brought it up. A 20% deduction on business income sounds like it could make a real difference. And you're absolutely right about the quarterly payments - getting blindsided by a $6K+ tax bill has definitely taught me that lesson the hard way! One quick question - when you mention the "safe harbor" rule for next year, does that mean I should base my quarterly payments on what I end up owing this year (including this big freelance tax hit), or just on my regular W-2 withholdings? I want to make sure I understand this correctly so I don't mess it up again.

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Eli Wang

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Fatima. Losing both family members in the same year while having to handle their financial affairs must be incredibly overwhelming. You're absolutely right that you can file Married Filing Jointly for 2024 since both spouses died in the same tax year. Here are the key steps: 1. **Mark the return properly**: Write "DECEASED" with each spouse's date of death across the top of Form 1040 2. **Include all income earned up to death dates**: Report wages, pension, investment income through March for your brother and November for his wife 3. **Claim all applicable deductions**: Medical expenses from their final months can be substantial - gather all receipts as these are deductible subject to the 7.5% AGI threshold 4. **File necessary forms**: You'll likely need Form 1310 if expecting a refund, and consider Form 56 to notify the IRS you're acting as their representative Regarding their investments and pension - any payments received after the second spouse's death in November may need to be reported on an estate return (Form 1041) rather than their final 1040, depending on the amounts. Given the complexity of two deaths plus retirement accounts, I'd strongly recommend consulting a tax professional experienced with deceased taxpayer returns. Look for an Enrolled Agent or CPA who specializes in estate taxation - they can guide you through the specific rules and ensure you don't miss any important requirements. Take care of yourself during this difficult time.

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Emma Bianchi

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This is such comprehensive advice, Eli. I'm dealing with a similar situation with my grandparents who both passed this year, and I've been so confused about the timeline issues. Your point about any payments received after the second spouse's death potentially needing to go on Form 1041 is really important - I hadn't realized that distinction. One thing I'm still unclear on - if they had automatic bill pays that continued to come out of their joint account after November, how does that affect things? And do you know if there's a specific timeframe for when I need to file their final return? I keep seeing conflicting information about whether it's the normal April deadline or if there's an extension for deceased taxpayers. Thank you for mentioning the need to find someone who actually specializes in this area - you're so right that most general tax preparers seem just as lost as we are when it comes to these situations.

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Emma, great questions! For the automatic bill pays continuing after November, those are generally considered estate expenses rather than personal deductions on the final 1040. You'll want to stop those as soon as possible and handle any ongoing bills through estate accounts if needed. Regarding filing deadlines - the final tax return for deceased taxpayers follows the same deadline as if they were alive, so April 15th for the 2024 return (or October 15th if you file an extension). However, if you're the personal representative and need more time to gather documents, you can request an extension just like any other taxpayer. One important tip: if their joint account remained open after November, you'll want to be very careful about separating any income/expenses that occurred after the second death. Technically, any interest earned or bills paid from that account after November could be considered estate activity rather than belonging to their final personal return. The estate vs. individual return distinction can get tricky with joint accounts, which is another reason why finding a specialist is so valuable. They can help you navigate these timing issues and ensure everything gets reported in the right place.

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QuantumQuasar

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I'm so deeply sorry for your loss, Fatima. Handling the tax affairs of loved ones while grieving is one of the most difficult things anyone can face, and you're being incredibly strong by taking this on. You're absolutely correct that you can still file Married Filing Jointly for 2024 since both spouses passed away in the same tax year. Here's what you need to know: **Essential steps:** - Write "DECEASED" with each spouse's date of death at the top of Form 1040 - Report all income earned through March for your brother and through November for his wife - You can claim all their usual deductions and credits - those medical expenses from their final months could provide significant relief - You'll need Form 1310 if there's a refund due, and consider Form 56 to formally notify the IRS of your role **Important considerations:** - Any pension or investment income received after November (second death) may need to go on an estate return (Form 1041) rather than their final 1040 - Medical expenses paid within one year after death can still be claimed on the final return - Keep detailed records of what income/expenses occurred before vs. after each death date Given the complexity of two deaths in one year plus retirement accounts, I strongly recommend finding a tax professional who specializes in deceased taxpayer returns. Look for an Enrolled Agent or CPA with estate taxation experience - most general preparers rarely handle these situations. You're doing something incredibly loving for your family during an unimaginably difficult time. Please be gentle with yourself through this process.

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This is exactly what happened to me in 2018! The sequence of codes 613 followed by 612 is frustrating but actually gives you valuable information - it proves the IRS received and initially processed your payment before something went wrong. In my case, I had written the wrong tax year on my payment voucher (wrote 2017 instead of 2018), so they applied it to the wrong year initially, then reversed it when they couldn't match it to a return. The money sat in a suspense account for months while I was getting notices about unpaid taxes. When I finally got through to the IRS, they found my payment within 10 minutes using the check number and amount. They transferred it to the correct year and refunded the penalties they had charged me. The whole thing was resolved in one phone call once I reached the right person. Don't panic - your money is definitely in their system somewhere. Bring your bank statement, the check number, and those transaction codes when you call. Ask specifically for a payment trace and mention you can see codes 613/612 on your transcript. This will help the agent understand exactly what happened.

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Rachel Clark

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same thing! The wrong tax year on the payment voucher makes total sense - I'm now wondering if I might have made a similar mistake when I sent mine in. Did you have to fill out any additional forms when you called, or were they able to transfer the payment just based on your phone conversation? I'm hoping to get this resolved quickly since they've already taken my 2020 refund to cover what they think I owe. Also, do you remember roughly how long the whole process took from when they found the payment to when you received confirmation that it was properly applied?

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They were able to transfer the payment during the phone call - no additional forms needed! The agent just needed to verify my identity and confirm the check details I provided matched what they saw in their system. The actual transfer happened immediately while I was on the phone, but it took about 2-3 weeks for my account transcript to reflect the change and for them to mail me an updated notice showing the corrected balance. They also automatically refunded the penalties and interest within that same timeframe. Since they've already offset your 2020 refund, once they locate and properly apply your 2019 payment, they should issue a refund check for the amount they incorrectly took. In my case, that refund came about 4-6 weeks after the phone call, but that was because I had to wait for the next refund processing cycle.

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CosmicCaptain

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This is incredibly helpful information from everyone! As someone dealing with a similar transcript issue right now, I'm seeing the same 613/612 code sequence on my 2020 return. Reading through all these responses, it sounds like the key takeaways are: 1) The money isn't lost, just misallocated somewhere in the IRS system, 2) Having the bank statement with the cleared check and exact codes ready when calling is crucial, and 3) Asking specifically for a "payment tracer" or "IDRS check payment trace" will get you to the right department faster. I'm definitely going to try the landline tip when I call - I had no idea that could make a difference with their phone system disconnecting people. Has anyone had success calling early in the morning versus later in the day? I'm wondering if there are better times to get through to an actual person.

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