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How to report insurance proceeds for rental property that burned down and was sold in different tax years?

So my rental property completely burned down last year (2024) and I basically gave it away for almost nothing since it was just the land at that point. Now I'm trying to figure out how to handle this on my taxes because the insurance company took forever and I just got the insurance payout this year (2025). I'm thinking I would report the sale as a loss on Form 4797 for tax year 2024 since that's when I got rid of the property. Then the insurance money would go on Form 4684 for 2025 when I actually received it. But I'm confused about the basis - would there still be any basis to report on line 20 of Form 4684 in 2025? Or did I completely lose that when I reported the loss in 2024? I feel like I'm missing something obvious but can't figure it out. Any advice from someone who's dealt with this kind of situation before? The property was fully depreciated if that matters.

This is a complicated situation with the events spanning two tax years. You're on the right track thinking about Form 4797 for the 2024 sale and Form 4684 for the 2025 insurance proceeds. For 2024, you would report the loss from disposing of the land on Form 4797. The amount of the loss would be your adjusted basis in the land minus whatever small amount you received for it. Remember that the land portion of the property is not depreciable, so even if the building was fully depreciated, the land still has a basis. For 2025, when you receive the insurance proceeds, you'll report this on Form 4684. You would still have a basis to report on line 20 - this would be your adjusted basis in the building portion of the property at the time of the casualty (fire). Even though you reported a loss on the disposition of the land in 2024, the basis for the building remains relevant for calculating gain or loss from the insurance recovery in 2025. The key is properly allocating your original purchase price between land and building, and then tracking the adjusted basis of each separately.

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Thanks for that explanation but I'm still confused. If I sold the whole property (land and burnt structure) in 2024, wouldn't my entire basis be used up when calculating that loss? Or are you saying I should have split it up somehow between the land sale and the future insurance payout when filing 2024? My property was about 70% building value, 30% land if that helps.

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You should indeed separate the land from the building when calculating these transactions. For the 2024 tax return, you would only report the disposition of the land on Form 4797, using your basis in the land portion (roughly 30% of your original purchase price, adjusted for any improvements specific to the land). The basis in the building portion (roughly 70% of original purchase price minus accumulated depreciation) would be used when reporting the insurance proceeds in 2025 on Form 4684. The insurance is compensating you for the building loss, not the land, so these are treated as separate transactions for tax purposes even though they relate to the same property.

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Something to keep in mind - if your insurance payout exceeds your adjusted basis in the building, you'll have a taxable gain. You might be eligible to defer this gain by buying replacement property within a certain timeframe. Look into IRC Section 1033 which covers involuntary conversions. I had a rental that was damaged by flooding and when the insurance paid out more than my depreciated basis, my accountant helped me defer the gain by reinvesting in another property. The timeline for replacement is longer for federally declared disasters too.

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I hadn't even thought about the possibility of deferring gains by reinvesting! Do you know how long I have to buy a replacement property? The insurance payout was actually quite good - probably will exceed my adjusted basis since I'd owned the property for 14 years and had depreciated a lot of it.

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For most casualty events, you have 2 years from the end of the tax year in which you realized the gain to purchase replacement property. However, if your property was in a federally declared disaster area, this extends to 4 years. So assuming your fire wasn't in a declared disaster area and you're receiving the insurance in 2025, you'd have until December 31, 2027 to acquire a replacement property. The replacement property should be similar or related in service to the property that was destroyed. Make sure to file Form 4684 correctly indicating your intention to defer the gain under Section 1033.

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Don't forget to consider state tax implications too! My cousin's beach house in Florida was destroyed in a hurricane, and while he handled the federal taxes correctly, he completely missed some state-specific requirements for reporting the insurance proceeds. Some states follow federal rules for casualty losses and involuntary conversions, but others have their own forms and schedules. Might be worth checking with a local tax professional who knows your state's requirements.

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This is such a good point. My state (California) required additional documentation for my fire loss claim that wasn't needed for federal. I almost missed it and would have had issues with my state return.

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Just wanted to add one more thing that might help - make sure you keep detailed records of ALL expenses related to the fire and cleanup, even if they seem minor. I had a similar situation with a rental property fire and my tax preparer was able to deduct things like boarding up costs, debris removal, and even some of the storage fees for salvaged items. Also, if you had any personal property in the rental (appliances, furniture you provided to tenants), those might qualify for separate casualty loss treatment on Schedule A if they weren't fully reimbursed by insurance. It's easy to overlook these smaller items when you're focused on the big picture of the building and land. The timing issue you're dealing with is actually pretty common with insurance claims - they love to drag things out across tax years. Just make sure you're consistent in how you report the basis calculations between your 2024 and 2025 returns so you don't accidentally double-count anything.

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This is really helpful advice about tracking all the related expenses! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my duplex had a kitchen fire last month. Insurance is covering the major repairs but I've already spent about $800 on temporary boarding and security measures that they said might not be reimbursable. Good to know these could still be deductible even if insurance doesn't cover them. Also wondering - for the personal property you mentioned, does that include things like the refrigerator and washer/dryer that came with the rental? I provided those as part of the furnished rental but I'm not sure if they count as part of the building or separate personal property for tax purposes.

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