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Kiara Fisherman

Can I claim a loss on sale of vacant land - personal use or investment property for tax purposes?

I'm in a weird spot with my taxes this year. Back in 2017, I purchased a plot of vacant land about 2 hours from where I live. I originally thought the area was going to develop and the value would increase over time. Well, that didn't happen and now I need to sell it at a significant loss (about $37,000 less than what I paid). The problem is I don't know how to classify this for tax purposes. I never used the land for anything personally - never camped on it, built anything, or even visited it more than twice after buying it. But I also didn't try to rent it out or develop it in any way. I literally just bought it, held onto it hoping the value would increase, and now I'm selling at a loss. Can I classify this as an investment property and take the loss on my taxes? Or is this considered personal use property where I can't deduct the loss? I've gotten conflicting advice and really need to figure this out before filing. Any insights would be appreciated!

Liam Cortez

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This is a classic case that comes up fairly often. The key factor here is your intent when purchasing the property. Based on what you've described, this would likely qualify as investment property because: 1) You purchased it with the intent that it would appreciate in value (investment motive) 2) You didn't use it for personal enjoyment or recreation 3) The fact that you held it long-term aligns with investment intent The IRS looks at your primary purpose for holding the property. Since you clearly held it hoping for appreciation (even though that didn't happen), that demonstrates investment intent. This means you should be able to claim the loss as a capital loss on Schedule D. Keep in mind this will be a long-term capital loss since you held it for more than a year, which can offset any capital gains plus up to $3,000 of ordinary income per year. Any unused losses can carry forward to future tax years.

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Savannah Vin

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Thanks for the explanation, but I'm still confused about something. What kind of documentation would the IRS want to see to prove it was held as an investment? And does it matter that they never made any attempts to improve the land or market it during the holding period?

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Liam Cortez

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Documentation that would help support investment intent includes emails or notes from when you purchased showing your intent to hold for appreciation, any market research you did on the area's development potential, and records of any inquiries you made about developing or selling the property over time. The fact that you didn't improve the land or actively market it doesn't disqualify it as an investment. Many people hold raw land purely for long-term appreciation without actively developing it. What matters most is your intent at purchase and during ownership. The absence of personal use actually strengthens your investment property classification. Just be prepared to explain your investment intent if questioned.

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Mason Stone

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How long did the analysis take? I'm kind of in a rush with my taxes and wondering if this is something that takes days or is it pretty quick?

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Sounds interesting but I'm a bit skeptical. Does it just tell you what you want to hear to justify taking the loss? What happens if you get audited and the IRS disagrees?

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Mason Stone

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Emma Olsen

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Lucas Lindsey

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Wait, how does this actually work? Do they have some special connection to the IRS or something? I've literally spent hours trying to get through with no luck.

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Sophie Duck

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Sophie Duck

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One important thing no one has mentioned is that you should check if your state tax rules follow federal rules for this situation. I'm in NJ and was able to take the loss federally but got surprised when the state disallowed it based on different classification criteria. Worth looking into before you file!

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Anita George

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Does that mean you had to file your federal and state returns differently? How did that work with tax software? I'm in California and wondering if I'll run into the same issue.

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Yes, I had to file them differently. Most tax software allows for state-specific adjustments to income that differs from your federal return. In TurboTax, there's a section specifically for state adjustments where you can add back income or deductions that are treated differently. California does generally conform to federal treatment of capital assets, but they have their own quirks about certain types of losses. I'd recommend checking with a California-specific tax resource or calling the California Franchise Tax Board to confirm. The difference cost me about $800 in additional state taxes I wasn't expecting, so definitely worth researching before you file.

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Just wanted to offer another perspective - I had almost the exact same situation (vacant land held for 8 years, sold at a loss) and the key thing that helped me prove investment intent was that I had listed the property with a real estate agent twice during my ownership trying to sell it for a profit. The IRS agent I spoke with said those listing agreements were perfect documentation of investment intent. Might be worth mentioning if you did anything similar during your ownership.

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I didn't list it for sale until now (when I'm selling at a loss), but I did email with a developer at one point about potentially partnering on a project that never materialized. I should probably dig up those emails as evidence of my investment intentions. Thanks for that tip - I wouldn't have thought about including past attempts to profit as documentation.

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Ella Russell

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Great point about documentation! I'd also add that you should gather any records of property taxes you paid during ownership - the IRS views paying property taxes on unused land as another indicator of investment intent rather than personal use. If you researched comparable sales in the area or tracked market values over time, those records can also help demonstrate you were treating it as an investment. One thing to be careful about though - make sure you don't have any photos or social media posts that might suggest personal use (like family gatherings on the property, even if rare). The IRS can be pretty thorough in audits, and anything that suggests recreational use could complicate your investment property classification. Sounds like you're in good shape since you mentioned barely visiting it, but worth double-checking your digital footprint just to be safe.

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That's a really smart point about checking social media posts! I never would have thought about that but it makes total sense that the IRS could look at those during an audit. I'm relieved that I basically never posted anything about the land since I hardly went there, but you're right that it's worth double-checking. The property tax records are a great idea too - I've been paying taxes on it for years and treating it like any other investment on my books. It's reassuring to know that helps establish the investment intent. Thanks for mentioning the comparable sales research angle as well. I did look up sales in the area a few times over the years when I was wondering about the value, so I should try to find those records too.

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