Can I claim a loss on the sale of a property I held for investment after moving out? Not using as a second home.
I've been trying to find an answer to my specific situation but haven't seen anything similar. We moved out of the city in late 2021 when prices were tanking because of the pandemic. We bought our current home in the suburbs and made it our primary residence, but we held onto our old condo downtown for about 15 months before finally selling it at a significant loss (over $95,000). Here's the thing - during that 15-month period after moving out, we NEVER used the condo for personal use. We had it professionally staged for selling (with rented furniture), and the staging company's contract actually prohibited us from staying there or using it at all. We were basically just holding onto it hoping the market would recover enough to minimize our loss, which it did somewhat, but we still took a big hit. So I'm confused about the tax classification here. This doesn't seem like a "second home" since we never once stayed there after moving. We weren't renting it out either, so it wasn't technically an income-producing property. But we were definitely holding it purely as an investment hoping for price recovery. Can I claim this as an investment loss? We paid about $1,450/month in HOA fees plus another $21,000 in staging and selling expenses over that period. The loss is very material to our finances. Does anyone know what tax rules apply to this specific scenario or can point me to some authority on it? Thanks for any help!
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Oliver Zimmermann
This is a really interesting situation that falls into a bit of a gray area, but I think there's a good case for treating this as an investment property loss. When you moved out of your city apartment and into your suburban home, your primary residence clearly changed. Then, by staging the apartment and holding it solely to sell at a better price without any personal use, you effectively converted it from a personal residence to a property held for investment purposes. The key here is your intent. You weren't holding it as a second home or vacation property - you were holding it purely as an investment asset hoping for market recovery. The fact that you were contractually prohibited from using it due to the staging agreement further supports this classification. If you can document that your intent was investment purposes (staging contracts, listing communications, etc.), you should be able to claim this as a capital loss on Schedule D. The loss would be calculated as the difference between the adjusted basis (purchase price plus improvements minus depreciation) and the sale price (minus selling expenses). The HOA fees and carrying costs during the holding period would generally be considered investment expenses reportable on Schedule A, subject to the 2% floor for miscellaneous itemized deductions.
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Natasha Volkova
•Could the IRS argue that since they only held it for 15 months after moving out that it was still primarily a personal residence? I thought there was some kind of 2-year rule that might apply here? Also, would getting a real estate appraisal at the time they moved out help establish the conversion to investment property?
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Oliver Zimmermann
•There's no specific time requirement for establishing a property as held for investment. The 2-year rule you're thinking of likely relates to the Section 121 exclusion for gains on primary residences, which isn't relevant here since we're dealing with a loss. The key factor is demonstrating intent, which in this case seems clear based on the staging agreement and lack of personal use. Documentation is crucial - the staging contract explicitly prohibiting personal use is excellent evidence. Additional documentation like communications with realtors about market timing, lack of personal effects in the property, and separate utility billing would all strengthen their position. An appraisal at conversion time would also be helpful but isn't strictly required.
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Javier Torres
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CosmicCaptain
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Ravi Sharma
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Freya Thomsen
Have you checked IRS Publication 523? There's a section about "property used partly as home and partly for business" that might apply to your situation. As I understand it, since you converted your former personal residence to an investment property, the loss is generally deductible as a capital loss. The most important thing is going to be documenting when and how you converted the property from personal to investment use. The staging contract is excellent evidence of this. Also helpful would be any emails with realtors discussing your strategy of waiting for the market to improve, utility bills showing minimal usage, etc. The property wasn't a "second home" in the tax sense because you never used it personally after establishing your new primary residence. You were essentially holding an investment asset.
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Amina Toure
•Thanks for pointing me to Pub 523, that's really helpful. I definitely have all the documentation you mentioned - staging contract explicitly prohibiting use, emails with our realtor about market timing strategy, utility bills showing minimal usage (just enough to keep the place heated), and even photos showing it completely staged with rental furniture rather than our belongings. Sounds like I'm on the right track for claiming this as an investment loss. Do you happen to know which specific form I'd use to report this?
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Freya Thomsen
•You'll report the sale on Form 8949 (Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets) and then transfer the information to Schedule D (Capital Gains and Losses). Since you held the property for more than a year, it would be a long-term capital loss. The loss can offset capital gains dollar for dollar, and if your losses exceed your gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 against ordinary income. Any remaining loss can be carried forward to future tax years. Make sure to keep all your documentation (conversion evidence, original purchase documents, improvement records, and sale documents) with your tax records in case of an audit.
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Omar Zaki
one other thing to consider is the state tax implications. Some states hav different rules for investment property losses than the federal government. I had a similar situation in California and was able to deduct the loss federally but not on my state return because they had different standards for what constituted an investment property vs personal residence. might want to check your state rules too.
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AstroAce
•This is a really good point. New York (assuming that's where OP's property was since they mentioned NYC) sometimes has different rules. I sold a property in NYC last year and had to navigate this exact issue. You should definitely consult with someone familiar with NY state tax law.
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GalacticGuru
Based on everything discussed here, it sounds like you have a strong case for treating this as an investment property loss. The key factors working in your favor are: 1) Clear establishment of a new primary residence when you moved to the suburbs, 2) Zero personal use of the downtown condo after moving out, 3) Documentation showing investment intent (the staging contract prohibiting personal use is particularly compelling), and 4) The 15-month holding period demonstrating you were waiting for market conditions to improve. For reporting, you'll use Form 8949 and Schedule D to claim this as a long-term capital loss. The $95,000+ loss is substantial and can offset other capital gains or up to $3,000 of ordinary income annually (with carryforward for the remainder). Don't forget that your selling expenses and some of the carrying costs during that 15-month period may also be deductible. I'd recommend keeping detailed records of everything - the staging contract, utility bills showing minimal usage, communications with your realtor about market timing, and any other evidence that supports your investment intent. This documentation will be crucial if the IRS questions the classification. Given the complexity and the large loss amount, it might also be worth having a tax professional review your specific situation to ensure everything is reported correctly.
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Mei Wong
•This is really comprehensive advice! I'm new to dealing with investment property losses, but I have a related question - what happens if you can't use all of the capital loss in one year? You mentioned carryforward, but is there a limit to how many years you can carry it forward? With a loss this large ($95,000+), it seems like it would take quite a while to use it all up at $3,000 per year against ordinary income.
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