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Converting Short Term Rental to Vacation Home: How to File Forms 4797 and 8949 for Property Sale

I bought a beachfront condo back in 2010 that I used as a short-term rental property until about 2016, when I decided to convert it to just a personal vacation home. Now I'm selling the place this year and trying to figure out the tax situation. I've accumulated approximately $65,000 in depreciation expenses that I know I need to recapture, plus I have around $31,000 in unallowed passive activity losses that I want to realize this year when the property is sold. I've been doing some research and it looks like I might need to use both Form 4797 and Form 8949 since the property changed use from rental to personal. My question is, how exactly do I split this up on my tax forms? Do I need to file both forms, and if so, how do I determine what goes where? This is my first time selling a property that changed use like this, and I want to make sure I handle the depreciation recapture and passive losses correctly. Any advice would be appreciated!

Andre Dupont

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Yes, you're on the right track! When you sell a property that was converted from rental to personal use, you'll typically need both Form 4797 and Form 8949. Here's how to handle it: The portion of the property's use that was business-related (your rental period from 2010-2016) gets reported on Form 4797. This is where you'll recapture the $65,000 in depreciation you took during those years. The depreciation recapture will be taxed at a maximum rate of 25%. For the portion used as a vacation home (2016 until now), you'll use Form 8949 and then Schedule D. Since you've owned the property for more than a year, the gain attributed to this period would be long-term capital gain. The $31,000 in unallowed passive activity losses can be fully deducted in the year of sale against any type of income, which is great news for you. This gets reported on Schedule E, and these previously disallowed losses will help offset some of your tax liability.

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QuantumQuasar

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Thank you for this explanation! I'm in a similar situation but confused about one thing - how do you actually determine what percentage goes on Form 4797 vs Form 8949? Is it based on the number of years it was a rental vs vacation home?

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Andre Dupont

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The allocation between Forms 4797 and 8949 isn't necessarily based on a simple time percentage. Instead, you need to determine the fair market value of the property at the time of conversion (when you stopped renting it and converted to personal use). For the business portion on Form 4797, you'll report the difference between the original cost basis (plus improvements) and the fair market value at conversion, adjusted for depreciation taken. For Form 8949, you'll report the difference between the fair market value at conversion and the final selling price. This approach ensures you're properly allocating the gain between business use and personal use.

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NebulaNinja

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Just a quick tip from experience: make sure to get a qualified appraisal of your property value at the time of conversion from rental to personal use. I didn't do this when I converted my rental in 2018, and it became a major headache during my 2022 sale. The IRS questioned my stated value during an audit, and I had nothing concrete to back it up. I ended up having to hire a real estate expert to retroactively analyze what the property would have been worth, which cost me over $2,000 plus a lot of stress. Even with that, I still had to compromise on the value with the IRS auditor. Document everything at the time of conversion!

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Is there a specific form for documenting the fair market value at conversion? Or is it just something you keep in your records in case of audit?

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NebulaNinja

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There's no specific IRS form for documenting the FMV at conversion. The key is having strong substantiation in your records. Ideally, you'd get a formal appraisal at the time of conversion and keep that with your tax records. If you didn't get an appraisal, gather whatever evidence you can - comparable sales listings from around your conversion date, property tax assessments, insurance valuations, or even photos showing the condition of the property. The goal is having documentation created at or near the time of conversion, not something produced years later when you're selling.

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Has anyone dealt with reporting unallowed passive activity losses that span multiple years? I've got about $29k in passive losses from my rental property spread across 6 different tax years. When selling, do I lump them all together on one form or need to itemize by year?

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Sofia Morales

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You'll report the total accumulated unallowed passive losses on Form 8582 in the year of sale. You don't need to itemize by individual years on your tax forms. However, you should have worksheets from your prior year returns that tracked these losses year by year. Keep those in your records in case of audit.

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