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Does anyone know what happens if I just dissolve this foreign corporation without filing a final non-dormant 5471? I'm in a similar situation - keep paying to file forms for a dormant company because I'm afraid of the headache of dissolution. But it's been dormant for 8 years now - wondering if I can just let it go and stop filing.
Don't do that! I tried something similar and got hit with a $10,000 penalty for failure to file the final 5471. The IRS is extremely serious about these international forms. You need to properly dissolve it and file the final forms correctly.
@Statiia Aarssizan is absolutely right - DO NOT just abandon the corporation without proper dissolution. The IRS treats missing final 5471s very seriously, and the penalties can be devastating. I've seen people get hit with penalties ranging from $10,000 to $60,000 for failure to file final forms. The proper dissolution process requires filing a final 5471 that's NOT dormant status, which means you'll need to complete more schedules and provide detailed information about the dissolution. It's more complex than the dormant filings you've been doing, but it's absolutely necessary to avoid massive penalties. If you've been successfully filing dormant 5471s for 8 years, you might want to consider just continuing that until you're ready to handle the dissolution properly. The cost of professional help for the final dissolution filing is much less than the potential penalties for not filing at all.
I've been dealing with a similar situation for the past 6 years with a dormant UK subsidiary. What finally convinced me to try doing it myself was realizing that my CPA was literally just copying the same information year after year - basically charging me $750 to update dates on an identical form. For anyone hesitant about the DIY approach, I'd recommend starting by comparing your last few years of filed 5471s. If they're nearly identical (which they should be for truly dormant entities), that's a good sign the form is straightforward enough to handle yourself. One thing I learned the hard way - make sure you're crystal clear on what "dormant" actually means to the IRS. My corporation had a small bank account that earned like $12 in interest one year, and I almost filed it as dormant when technically it wasn't. The interest income, even though tiny, would have made it non-dormant for that year. Caught it just in time after doing more research. The peace of mind from understanding exactly what you're filing (rather than just trusting someone else did it right) has been worth the effort for me.
That's a really good point about the interest income! I hadn't thought about that - my dormant corporation also has a small bank account that probably earns a few dollars in interest each year. I've been filing it as dormant, but now I'm wondering if I should double-check those interest statements. Do you know what the threshold is for when interest income would make it non-dormant? Even $12 seems like it should still qualify as dormant in the grand scheme of things, but I guess the IRS probably has specific rules about this.
Filed on February 18th with my purple Wisely card and still waiting here too! This is my first year using this card instead of my regular bank account, so I wasn't sure what to expect for timing. Reading through everyone's experiences is really helpful - sounds like there's quite a bit of variation even among people using the same card type. I'm at about 17 days since acceptance, so hopefully I'm getting close based on what others are sharing. Thanks for starting this thread, it's nice to know I'm not the only one checking my balance obsessively!
I'm in the exact same boat! Filed Feb 20th with my purple Wisely card and still checking constantly too. This is also my first year using Wisely instead of my regular bank, so I had no idea what timeline to expect. Based on what everyone's sharing here, it sounds like we should be getting close - most people seem to be getting theirs around the 21-day mark. Fingers crossed we both see something soon! At least we're not alone in the obsessive balance checking š
I'm in a similar situation as many of you! Filed on February 25th with my purple Wisely card and still waiting at day 15. This is actually my second year using the Wisely card - last year I got my refund in exactly 21 days, so I'm hoping for similar timing this year. What's interesting is that I'm also an independent contractor like the original poster, and I did notice last year that my refund seemed to come right on schedule despite having Schedule C income. I've been using the "Where's My Refund" tool daily (probably too much!) and it's still showing "processing." Thanks for creating this thread - it's reassuring to see I'm not the only one anxiously waiting and checking balances multiple times a day!
Great advice from everyone here! I went through a similar situation last year (Nevada resident with internship in Oregon), and I wanted to add a few practical tips that helped me: 1. Keep detailed records of your work dates and location - I created a simple spreadsheet tracking which days I worked in California vs any remote work days from Arizona. This was super helpful when filling out the forms. 2. Don't panic about the "double taxation" - it sounds scary but the credit system really does work. I actually got a small refund from Oregon even though I was worried about owing money. 3. File early if possible! Multi-state returns can take longer to process, and if there are any issues, you'll want time to resolve them before the deadline. 4. Consider the standard deduction differences between states - California's standard deduction might be different from Arizona's, which could affect your overall tax situation. One last thing - if you had any moving expenses related to your internship (even temporary housing), keep those receipts. While the federal moving expense deduction was eliminated for most people, some states still allow it for temporary work assignments. Good luck with your returns!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm especially glad you mentioned keeping track of remote work days - I did work from my dorm room in Arizona a few times during the internship when the company had "work from anywhere" days. Should I be allocating those specific days to Arizona instead of California for tax purposes? Also, you mentioned moving expenses - I did pay for temporary housing in California and had some travel costs getting there. Even though the federal deduction isn't available, are you saying Arizona might still allow me to deduct these expenses? That would be amazing if true! One quick question about filing early - do you know if there's any advantage to filing the state returns before doing the federal return, or does the order not matter as long as I do California before Arizona?
Great questions! For the remote work days from Arizona, yes - you should allocate those to Arizona since that's where you physically performed the work. California taxes based on where the work is actually performed, not where your employer is located. So if you worked 3 days remotely from Arizona out of a 5-day week, only 2 days of that week's wages would be California-sourced. For moving expenses, you'll need to check Arizona's specific rules. Many states that still allow moving expense deductions require the move to be for a permanent job change (lasting more than a year), so a temporary internship might not qualify. But it's definitely worth researching Arizona Form 140 instructions or consulting a tax professional since the rules vary significantly by state. Regarding filing order - federal vs state doesn't matter much, but definitely do California before Arizona as others mentioned. The federal return can be filed anytime relative to the states. I actually found it helpful to complete my federal return first since it gave me a good overview of all my income sources, then tackle the state returns in the right order. Keep those detailed records - the IRS and states love documentation if they ever question your allocation!
Just wanted to share my experience since I went through almost the exact same situation last year - Arizona resident with a summer internship in California earning about $13,500. The advice here is spot-on, but I'll add a few things that caught me off guard: First, California's nonresident return (540NR) was actually pretty straightforward once I got started. The tricky part was making sure I only reported the income I earned while physically present in California. Since you mentioned earning $12,800 over three months, that should all be California-sourced income. Second, Arizona's credit for taxes paid to other states worked exactly as described - I used Form 301 (Credit for Tax Paid to Another State) along with my Form 140. Just make sure you have your completed California return handy because you'll need those exact numbers. One thing nobody mentioned - if you're still claimed as a dependent by your parents, make sure they don't accidentally claim your internship income on their return. I had to file an amended return because my parents' tax preparer included my W-2 with theirs by mistake. Also, start gathering your documents now if you haven't already. You'll need your W-2 showing California wages and withholding, and if you moved to California temporarily, keep any lease agreements or receipts that show your temporary residency status. The whole process took me about 2 hours using TurboTax, and I actually got refunds from both states because they had over-withheld. Don't stress too much - the system really does work to prevent double taxation!
This is super reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! I'm definitely feeling less overwhelmed now. Quick question about the dependent status thing you mentioned - I am still claimed as a dependent by my parents, but they definitely won't include my W-2 on their return since I file my own. However, I'm wondering - does being claimed as a dependent affect how I file my California nonresident return or Arizona resident return at all? Like, are there different standard deduction amounts or filing requirements? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything important there. Also, when you said you got refunds from both states, was that because they over-withheld based on assuming you'd be earning that rate all year long? I'm hoping the same thing happens for me since $12,800 over three months had them withholding at a pretty high rate. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's exactly what I needed to hear!
Don't forget about Section 1060 allocation rules! The way you and the buyer allocate the purchase price across different assets can dramatically impact your tax situation. Goodwill is a Class VII asset under these rules, but how you document and support that allocation matters. Make sure your purchase agreement clearly specifies how much of the total consideration (both cash and stock) is specifically for goodwill versus other assets being transferred.
This āļø Section 1060 is critical. I messed up my allocation in a similar deal last year and ended up with way more ordinary income than necessary. Make sure your purchase agreement explicitly states the allocation method.
I've been following this thread with great interest since I'm dealing with a similar LLC sale situation. Based on what you've shared about it being an LLC taxed as partnership selling to a C-Corp, your accountant might be correct about the different tax treatment. The key issue is that when a partnership interest holder receives stock from a C-Corp buyer, it often doesn't qualify for the same favorable treatment as a straight asset sale. The stock portion might be viewed as a taxable exchange rather than a sale, which could result in ordinary income treatment depending on how it's structured. However, there are still ways to potentially optimize this. Look into whether the transaction can be structured as an installment sale for the stock portion, which might help spread the tax impact over time. Also, make sure your Section 1060 allocation clearly separates goodwill from any other intangible assets - sometimes what gets lumped together as "goodwill" actually includes other items that have different tax treatment. Have you considered getting a second opinion from a tax attorney who specializes in business transactions? The tax implications are significant enough that it might be worth the additional professional fees to explore all options before finalizing.
This is really helpful context about the LLC partnership structure. I'm curious - when you mention installment sale treatment for the stock portion, how would that work practically? Would the buyer need to agree to specific terms, or is this something that can be elected on the tax return regardless of how the stock transfer is documented in the purchase agreement? Also, regarding the Section 1060 allocation, should goodwill be separated from things like customer relationships or non-compete agreements? I'm wondering if some of what we've labeled as "goodwill" might actually fall into different asset classes with different tax treatment.
Isabella Ferreira
I learned the hard way that CDs can be reported differently depending on the institution. TD Bank credits my interest monthly even on their 5-year CDs, Chase only pays at maturity, and Capital One lets you choose! Almost messed up my estimated payments because of this. Worth calling each bank directly to confirm.
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CosmicVoyager
ā¢i had same prob with ally bank! their site said one thing but 1099 showed something totally different. ended up getting hit with an underpayment penalty cuz the interest was way more than i calculated. make sure u get it in writing somehow!
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Luca Marino
This is such a helpful thread! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I have multiple CDs from different banks with varying terms. What I've learned from my own research and talking to a tax professional is that the key document to look for is your CD agreement or disclosure statement - it should clearly state the "interest payment method" or "interest crediting frequency." One thing I'd add to the great advice already given: if you're doing estimated quarterly tax payments like the original poster, make sure to track not just WHEN the interest will be credited, but also HOW MUCH. Some CDs have promotional rates for the first few months that then drop to a lower rate, which can throw off your calculations. Also, for anyone considering ladder strategies with multiple CDs, I've found it helpful to create a simple spreadsheet tracking each CD's maturity date, interest payment schedule, and expected 1099-INT reporting. This makes it much easier to plan your quarterly estimated payments and avoid underpayment penalties. The "constructive receipt" rule mentioned earlier is really the key concept - you're taxed when the money becomes available to you, not necessarily when you physically receive it in your hands.
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Dmitry Petrov
ā¢This is exactly the kind of comprehensive breakdown I was hoping to find! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I'm definitely going to set that up for my CD ladder strategy. One question about the promotional rates you mentioned: if a CD starts at 5% for the first 3 months then drops to 3.5%, does the bank's 1099-INT break down the different rates, or do they just report the total interest amount? I'm trying to figure out if I need to track the rate changes myself for estimated payment calculations or if the bank handles that complexity.
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Lydia Santiago
ā¢Great question about the promotional rates! The bank's 1099-INT will typically just show the total interest amount earned for the year - they don't break down the different rate periods for you. So if you earned $200 during the 5% promotional period and $150 during the 3.5% standard period, you'd just see $350 total on the 1099-INT. For estimated payment planning, I'd recommend tracking the rate changes yourself in that spreadsheet @aa3cde904ab6 mentioned. This becomes especially important if you have multiple promotional CDs maturing in different quarters - you'll want to know which quarters will have higher interest income so you can adjust your estimated payments accordingly. I learned this the hard way when I had three promotional CDs all revert to lower rates in the same quarter, which threw off my Q4 estimated payment calculation completely!
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