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Layla Mendes

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I'm dealing with a similar situation right now! Just got quoted $950 for my return which includes one rental property and a K1 from a partnership investment. What really helped me was asking the accountant to break down exactly what they'd be doing - turns out they include a consultation about tax planning for next year and will handle any IRS correspondence if issues come up. When I compared that to cheaper options, some were just basic preparation with no ongoing support. I ended up negotiating down to $800 by agreeing to have all my documents organized digitally beforehand. Maybe try asking your accountant what's included in that $1200 and see if there's any flexibility based on how prepared your paperwork is?

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Ethan Brown

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That's a really smart approach asking for the breakdown! I never thought about negotiating based on how organized my documents are. Did they give you a checklist of what "organized digitally" meant to them? I'm pretty good with spreadsheets and scanning docs, so if I could save a few hundred bucks by doing the prep work myself, that seems like a win-win.

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Ryan Vasquez

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Shop around for sure! I had a similar experience last year - first accountant quoted me $1,400 for two rental properties and a K1, which seemed crazy high. I ended up finding someone who charged $750 for the exact same work and did a great job. The key thing I learned is that pricing varies wildly between tax preparers, even for identical situations. Some charge per form, others have flat rates for complexity levels, and some just seem to charge whatever they think they can get away with. I'd recommend getting at least 2-3 quotes and asking each one to explain their fee structure. Also ask about their specific experience with rental property taxes - you want someone who knows the ins and outs of depreciation, passive activity rules, etc. Don't just go with the cheapest, but definitely don't assume the most expensive is the best either.

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Ella Lewis

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I'm so sorry for your loss. I went through this same situation when my wife passed away three years ago, and I understand how overwhelming it can feel to handle taxes during such a difficult time. From my experience, filing jointly for the year of death is usually the better choice financially, even when one spouse had lower withholdings. The combined income often falls into more favorable tax brackets, and your higher withholdings will help offset any taxes owed from his income. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records of all his final paychecks, any accrued benefits paid out, and making sure I had his W-2 for the partial year. Don't forget to look for any retirement account distributions or other income sources that might not be immediately obvious. The qualifying widow status for the following two years is a real benefit - it essentially lets you keep using the married filing jointly tax brackets and standard deduction amounts. Take advantage of it when those years come around. If you're feeling uncertain about doing this yourself, there's no shame in getting help from a tax professional for this first year. The peace of mind might be worth the cost, especially since surviving spouse situations can have some unique considerations I hadn't thought of on my own.

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Thank you for sharing your experience, Ella. It's comforting to hear from someone who has been through this. Your point about keeping detailed records is really helpful - I've been trying to organize everything but wasn't sure what was most important to track. Did you find any unexpected income sources when you were going through his paperwork? I'm worried I might miss something since he handled most of our financial record-keeping. Also, when you mention retirement account distributions, are you referring to things like his 401k being paid out to me, or other types of accounts? I'm leaning toward getting professional help this first year like you suggested. The emotional burden of handling this alone while still grieving feels overwhelming some days.

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Ava Garcia

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I completely understand that feeling of being overwhelmed - it's so hard to handle financial details when you're still processing everything emotionally. For unexpected income sources, I did find a few things I hadn't initially thought of. There was a small pension benefit from an old employer that got paid out automatically, some accumulated sick leave that was converted to cash, and even a few dollars in interest from an old savings account I didn't know he still had. The biggest surprise was a small life insurance policy through his work that I hadn't realized existed - thankfully that wasn't taxable income, but it's worth checking for. Regarding retirement accounts, I was referring to things like his 401k balance being distributed to me as the beneficiary, any IRA distributions, and in some cases final pension payments. These can have different tax implications depending on how they're handled, which is another reason why getting professional help that first year was so valuable for me. Don't feel guilty about needing support during this time. A good tax professional who has experience with surviving spouse situations can help you navigate both the immediate tax filing and also plan ahead for the next couple of years. They'll often catch things you might miss and help ensure you're taking advantage of all the benefits available to you. Take care of yourself through this process - the paperwork and taxes will get sorted out, but your wellbeing matters most.

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I'm so sorry for your loss, Brielle. Going through tax filing after losing a spouse is incredibly difficult, and you're smart to seek guidance during this challenging time. Based on your numbers, filing jointly will likely be more beneficial even with your husband's lower withholdings. With your combined income of around $108k and total withholdings of about $6,320, you're actually in a pretty reasonable position. The married filing jointly standard deduction for 2024 is $29,200, which means your taxable income would be roughly $79k. At that level, you'd owe approximately $9,000-10,000 in federal taxes, so you might actually get a small refund or owe very little. A few important things to remember: make sure to mark "deceased" next to your husband's name on the return and include his date of death. Also, you'll want to gather all his tax documents - W-2s, any 1099s for side income, and documentation of any final employer benefits or retirement distributions. The qualifying widow(er) status for 2025 and 2026 will continue to give you the same favorable tax treatment as married filing jointly, so that's something positive to look forward to during this transition period. If you're feeling overwhelmed handling this yourself, there's absolutely no shame in getting help from a tax professional this year. They can ensure everything is filed correctly and help you understand what to expect for future years.

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Thank you for breaking down those numbers so clearly - that's really reassuring! I was panicking thinking we might owe thousands, but your estimate makes me feel much better about our situation. I have one follow-up question about marking "deceased" on the return - do I need any special documentation beyond just writing the date of death? Also, I'm still gathering his documents and I'm worried about the timeline. When is the absolute latest I can file without penalties, given that this involves a deceased spouse? I know the regular deadline is April 15th, but wasn't sure if there are any extensions available for situations like mine. Your advice about considering a tax professional is really helpful. Do you think it's worth it even if the numbers work out to be relatively straightforward like you calculated?

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Amina Diallo

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Has anyone tried using the relatively new safe harbor for rental real estate under Section 199A? It might not solve the passive activity loss issue directly, but it could provide a qualified business income deduction that offsets some of the S-Corp income.

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That's a completely different section of the tax code dealing with the QBI deduction. OP is specifically asking about offsetting income with losses under Section 469, not getting a deduction on the rental income. The 199A safe harbor doesn't help convert passive losses to nonpassive.

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Sophia Russo

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Another consideration for your grouping election - make sure you're prepared to defend the "appropriate economic unit" determination if the IRS challenges it. The regulations under 469(c)(7)(A) list five factors they consider: similarities and differences in types of business, extent of common control, geographical location, interdependencies between activities, and extent of common ownership. In your case, you have strong arguments for several factors: common control (you own 100% of both), geographical location (same property), and interdependence (the S-Corp depends on the real estate for its operations). The fact that your S-Corp is the primary tenant actually strengthens the interdependence argument. One tip: when you file the grouping statement with your return, be very specific about which factors you're relying on and provide concrete details. Don't just say "common control and geographical location" - explain that you have 100% ownership of both entities and that the S-Corp operates exclusively from the LLC-owned property under a triple-net lease arrangement. Also keep detailed records of your material participation in both activities. The IRS may scrutinize whether you're truly materially participating in the rental activity or if it's just passive ownership.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the documentation aspect - when you mention keeping detailed records of material participation in the rental activity, what specific types of records would be most compelling to the IRS? I'm thinking things like maintenance logs, tenant communications, property management decisions, but are there other activities that would strengthen the case for material participation in a single-property rental scenario?

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Brian Downey

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As someone new to this community and currently dealing with my first major tax delay, I just wanted to say how incredibly helpful this entire thread has been! I'm about 3 weeks into my own congressional inquiry process after being stuck in the dreaded "additional information needed" limbo for months. Reading through everyone's timelines and experiences has given me so much more confidence that there's actually a structured process behind all this chaos. The specific advice about transcript codes from @Isabella Russo is gold - I had no idea those codes could give you real insight into what's actually happening with your return instead of just generic "under review" messages. @Emily Nguyen-Smith, your military paperwork comparison made me laugh out loud! At least with tax refunds, we eventually get our money back instead of just more forms to fill out. šŸ˜‚ I'm bookmarking this thread to reference as my case progresses. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and creating such a supportive space for those of us navigating this frustrating process. Hopefully I'll be back in a few weeks with my own success story to add to the collection!

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Omar Zaki

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@Brian Downey, welcome to the community! I'm also pretty new here but have been following this thread closely since I'm in a similar boat with my own tax delays. It's amazing how much more reassuring this whole process feels when you can see other people's actual experiences and timelines instead of just the vague official responses we usually get. The transcript code tracking tip from @Isabella Russo has been a game-changer for me too - I never realized there was a way to actually see what s'happening behind the scenes. It s'like finally getting to peek behind the curtain instead of just waiting in the dark! Your 3-week timeline puts you right in that sweet spot where a lot of people seem to start seeing movement, so hopefully you ll'have some good news to share soon. And yes, @Emily Nguyen-Smith s military'comparison is perfect - at least we re working'toward getting money back rather than just generating more bureaucracy! šŸ˜„ Looking forward to hearing about your progress as things move along. This community has been such a lifeline during what would otherwise be a really stressful process!

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Just wanted to jump in as someone who's been lurking in this community for a while but never had to deal with tax delays until now. This thread is exactly what I needed to see! I'm about 2 weeks into my own congressional inquiry after being stuck since April with the same "additional information needed" runaround that everyone here seems to have experienced. The detailed timelines everyone has shared are incredibly helpful - it's giving me realistic expectations instead of the wild hope that this would somehow resolve overnight. @Isabella Russo, that transcript code advice is brilliant! I had no idea there was a way to actually track what's happening instead of just calling and getting generic responses. @Emily Nguyen-Smith, your deployment paperwork comparison is spot on - except at least with military paperwork you know it's going to take forever from the start! šŸ˜… With tax refunds, they get your hopes up with those early approval dates and then... crickets. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences and creating such a supportive community around what is otherwise a pretty isolating and frustrating process. I'll definitely be checking back to share my own updates as things progress. Fingers crossed we all get our resolutions soon!

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@Makayla Shoemaker, welcome to the community! It's great to see more people finding this thread helpful. I'm also relatively new here and have been amazed at how supportive everyone is during what can be such a stressful situation. Your 2-week timeline actually puts you right around where several people have started seeing some real movement, so hopefully you'll have some positive updates soon! The transcript code tracking that @Isabella Russo shared really is a game-changer - I wish I d'known about that months ago when I was just blindly calling and getting the same vague responses over and over. And yes, @Emily Nguyen-Smith s military'comparison is perfect! At least with the military you know going in that everything takes forever. With tax refunds, they tease you with those quick approval dates and then leave you hanging for months! šŸ˜‚ This community has been such a lifesaver for understanding that we re not'alone in this process. Looking forward to hearing about your progress as things move along. Hopefully we ll all'be sharing our success stories soon!

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Don't forget to get a good appraisal to support your purchase price allocation! I made the mistake of not documenting this well when buying into a partnership and got hammered during an audit because the IRS claimed my allocation was unreasonable.

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Totally agree. We went through this last year. Had a proper valuation done by a third party that cost about $3,500 but saved us way more in the long run. IRS is really scrutinizing partnership transactions these days.

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I'm buying into an established LLC taxed as a partnership. One thing I want to add is that timing matters a lot for the Section 754 election - it has to be made by the due date (including extensions) of the partnership's return for the tax year when the transfer occurs. Also, don't overlook the impact on your depreciation deductions if the partnership owns depreciable assets. With a 754 election and proper basis step-up, you might get additional depreciation deductions on your share of partnership assets, which can provide significant tax benefits over time. For anyone considering this, I'd strongly recommend running the numbers both ways (with and without the election) to see the long-term impact. The election is generally irrevocable once made, so you want to be sure it makes sense for your specific situation.

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Juan Moreno

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This is such a valuable point about timing! I'm new to partnership taxation and didn't realize the 754 election had such strict deadlines. When you say "due date including extensions" - does that mean if the partnership files an extension to October 15th, they have until then to make the election? Or does it have to be done by the original March 15th deadline? Also, regarding the depreciation benefits you mentioned - would this apply even to a service business like consulting that might not have a lot of traditional depreciable assets? I'm wondering if things like computer equipment or office furniture would qualify for the additional depreciation deductions.

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