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My stepsister had this exact issue two months ago and couldn't get any answers from anyone. She finally broke down and used a calling service (claimyr.com) to get an actual IRS person on the phone. Turns out they were taking her entire refund for old student loans. At least knowing helped her adjust her budget instead of counting on money that wasn't coming.
This is such a stressful situation! I've been through something similar. The Treasury Offset Program hotline at 1-800-304-3107 is definitely your best bet for finding out if there's an active offset against your refund. It's automated but will at least confirm if they're planning to take money. Unfortunately, from my experience and what I've seen others go through, if you have defaulted federal student loans, they typically take the entire refund amount - not just a portion. And you're right to be concerned about the timing since they don't give you advance notice beyond what you can find through that hotline. One thing to keep in mind is that even when they do take your full refund, only a portion actually goes toward your loan principal. A significant chunk gets eaten up by collection fees and interest, which is incredibly frustrating when you're already struggling financially. If you do find out they're taking your refund, try to contact your loan servicer ASAP to discuss rehabilitation options. It won't help for this year's refund, but it could prevent this from happening again next year. Good luck!
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat with old student loans and was wondering about the rehabilitation process you mentioned. How long does that typically take to complete, and do you know if there are any income requirements to qualify? I'd rather get ahead of this now instead of dealing with offset surprises year after year.
Don't forget about the Qualified Business Income Deduction (Section 199A)! As a martial arts instructor with your own business, you likely qualify for this. It lets you deduct up to 20% of your qualified business income, which can significantly reduce your taxable income. So if your profit after expenses is $5000, you might be able to take another $1000 off your taxable income with this deduction. It's on Form 8995. Lot of small business owners miss this!
Wow I had no idea about this deduction! Is there anything special I need to qualify? My martial arts school is pretty small, just teaching evening classes a few times a week.
You should qualify even with your small evening classes! The main requirements are: 1) You have qualified business income (basically profit from your business) 2) You file as a sole proprietor, partnership, S corporation, or LLC There are income limitations but they're pretty high ($170,050 for single filers in 2025), so unless your total taxable income from all sources exceeds that, you should be fine. You don't need to have employees or a formal business structure. The calculation is straightforward for smaller businesses - it's generally just 20% of your net profit from the business. Use Form 8995 (the simplified version) unless your income is above the threshold. It's definitely worth taking the time to claim this deduction!
Great advice from everyone here! As someone who also operates a small martial arts business, I'd add a few practical tips for Mateo: 1. **Keep detailed records NOW** - Don't wait until next tax season. Track every business expense, no matter how small. I use a simple spreadsheet with columns for date, amount, description, and category. 2. **Separate business and personal expenses clearly** - Even though you're using your SSN, treat this as a legitimate business. If you buy equipment that you also use personally, only deduct the business portion. 3. **Consider quarterly estimated tax payments** - With $8400 in profit, you'll owe self-employment tax plus income tax. The IRS expects you to pay as you earn, not just at year-end. Use Form 1040-ES to calculate and avoid underpayment penalties. 4. **Document your business use of home** - If you use part of your home for business planning, storing equipment, or administrative work, you might qualify for the home office deduction. Measure the square footage and keep records. The 1099-K can be intimidating the first time, but once you understand that it's just a reporting document and not necessarily your exact taxable income, it becomes much more manageable. You've got this!
This is incredibly helpful advice! I'm especially glad you mentioned the quarterly estimated tax payments - I hadn't even thought about that. Since I made $8400 this year, should I be making quarterly payments for 2025 based on that amount? Or do I wait to see what I actually owe when I file my 2024 return first? Also, for the home office deduction, I do use my spare bedroom for planning classes and storing equipment like pads and uniforms. Do I need to use it exclusively for business, or can it be a shared space?
I work as a tax preparer and see this exact confusion every tax season. The school's finance manager is absolutely wrong about the distinction between "tuition" and childcare for DCFSA purposes. The IRS doesn't care what the school calls their billing categories internally. Publication 503 is crystal clear: if the program is below kindergarten level, ALL expenses qualify as care expenses - period. There's no separate "tuition exception" for pre-K programs. What's happening here is the school is conflating different tax provisions. The education tax credits (like the American Opportunity Credit) do distinguish between educational expenses and childcare, but DCFSA rules are completely different. I'd recommend getting the IRS language in writing and scheduling a meeting with the school director, not just the finance staff. Bring up that this affects multiple families and that other schools in your area likely provide proper documentation. You're entitled to use your full DCFSA benefit for this program. If they continue to refuse, your FSA administrator may accept the expenses anyway if you provide a receipt showing it's a pre-K program with proper dates and provider information. Many FSA administrators follow IRS guidelines regardless of how schools categorize their programs internally. Don't let them cost you $5,000+ in tax savings over an incorrect interpretation of the tax code!
This is exactly the kind of professional insight I was hoping to find! As a tax preparer, have you seen situations where schools eventually changed their documentation practices once they understood the correct IRS interpretation? I'm wondering if there's a specific way to present this information that tends to be more effective with school administrators. Also, do you have any recommendations for what to do if the FSA administrator initially rejects the claim? Should I appeal with just the IRS Publication 503 reference, or is there other documentation that tends to be more persuasive in appeals? Thanks for taking the time to clarify this - it's frustrating when schools create unnecessary obstacles to following the actual tax code!
I'm dealing with a very similar situation with my 5-year-old's "Pre-K Plus" program! Our school director initially gave me the same response - that the "academic portion" didn't qualify for DCFSA, only the "extended care" hours. What finally worked for me was printing out the exact language from IRS Publication 503 and highlighting the key phrase: "Expenses for a child in nursery school, preschool, or similar programs for children below the level of kindergarten are expenses for care." I also found IRS Revenue Ruling 2003-92 which specifically addresses this issue and confirms that educational content doesn't disqualify pre-K programs from DCFSA eligibility. The breakthrough came when I asked the school director to show me where in the IRS code it says "tuition" for pre-K programs is treated differently than "childcare." They couldn't find any such distinction because it doesn't exist. I ended up getting full documentation for our $18K program, and our FSA administrator (FSAFEDS) accepted it without question. The key was being persistent but professional, and having the actual tax code references ready. Don't give up - you're absolutely right about this and it's worth thousands in tax savings! If your school continues to resist, consider reaching out to other parents in the program. When multiple families raise the same concern, schools tend to take it more seriously and consult with their own tax advisors.
Thank you for sharing the specific IRS Revenue Ruling 2003-92 reference! That's incredibly helpful - I hadn't come across that ruling in my research. It sounds like having that additional documentation beyond just Publication 503 really made the difference in getting your school to understand the correct interpretation. I love your approach of asking the school to show where the IRS makes a "tuition" distinction for pre-K programs. That's brilliant because it puts the burden on them to justify their position with actual tax code rather than just internal policies. Your suggestion about reaching out to other parents is spot on too. I bet there are several families in our Jr K program who would benefit from this clarification. A coordinated approach might get the school to take this more seriously and actually consult with tax professionals rather than just sticking to their initial response. Did you end up needing to escalate beyond the school director, or were they able to resolve it once you provided the IRS references? I'm hoping I won't need to involve our FSA administrator in an appeal process if I can get the school documentation sorted out first.
Had this EXACT issue in February. Bank rejected my DD on Feb 9th, and I received my paper check on March 4th - so exactly 24 days. The most frustrating part was that my WMR status never updated from "Your refund has been sent to your bank" even after I physically received and deposited the check! Make sure you're checking your mail daily and sign up for Informed Delivery if you haven't already.
I went through this exact situation in 2023 and can share some practical advice. First, don't panic about the timing - the 2-3 week timeframe mentioned earlier is pretty accurate in my experience. I received my paper check exactly 19 days after the rejection. Regarding your mailing address concern: if you're only temporarily relocated, I'd recommend setting up a USPS mail hold or forward rather than changing your address with the IRS via Form 8822. The IRS will mail the check to whatever address is on your return, and changing that address mid-process could actually cause delays. A simple mail forward through USPS is much faster and won't interfere with their systems. Pro tip: Sign up for USPS Informed Delivery if you haven't already - it'll give you a heads up when the check is coming so you're not anxiously checking the mailbox every day. The check will come in a standard white Treasury envelope, not anything fancy. One last thing - keep documenting everything (rejection notice, dates, etc.) in case you need to follow up later. Good luck!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm in almost the exact same boat and your timeline gives me hope. Quick question about the USPS mail hold vs forward - if I set up a hold, do I need to be back at my primary address within a certain timeframe to pick up the mail? I might be at this temporary location for up to 6 weeks and don't want the check sitting in limbo somewhere.
Malik Davis
Something nobody has mentioned yet - you'll need to pay self-employment tax (Medicare + Social Security) on this income too, which is about 15.3% ON TOP OF regular income tax. It really adds up! If you think you'll make more than $1000 in self-employment income in 2025, you should probably make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid underpayment penalties next year.
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Isabella Santos
ā¢This is what killed me my first year freelancing! I had no idea about self-employment tax and ended up owing WAY more than I expected. Definitely set aside at least 25-30% of what you make if you're in a typical tax bracket.
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Margot Quinn
I went through the exact same situation last year! The key thing to remember is that the $600 threshold for 1099-K forms is just when PayPal is required to send YOU the form - but you're required to report ALL income regardless of whether you get a form or not. Here's what I did in TurboTax: Go to the "Federal Taxes" tab, then "Wages & Income," and look for "Self-Employment Income" or "Business Income." You'll create a simple business for your art commissions. For the income amount, just add up all your PayPal payments from your transaction history - PayPal keeps good records that you can download. The silver lining is that you can deduct business expenses like art supplies, software, and even a portion of your internet bill against this income. Keep all your receipts! Also, since you made around $1,400 total ($800 PayPal + $600 from the 1099), you'll owe self-employment tax on that, but it's not as scary as it sounds when you factor in the deductions. Don't stress too much - you're doing the right thing by reporting everything honestly!
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Jason Brewer
ā¢This is super helpful! I'm actually in almost the identical situation - made about $1,200 from various freelance writing gigs through PayPal and Venmo, no 1099s. Quick question though: when you say "download" your PayPal transaction history, where exactly do you find that? I've been manually going through my account trying to add everything up but there has to be an easier way, right? Also, did you end up owing a lot in self-employment tax? I'm trying to figure out if I should set money aside for next year or if the business deductions help offset it significantly.
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