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Mateo Silva

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This is exactly the kind of situation that can really stress out first-time filers, but you're handling it great by asking questions! What you're seeing is completely normal for school district employees. Just to add to what others have said - the reason you have two localities is likely because you live in one tax jurisdiction (your city) and your school district spans into another tax jurisdiction. School districts often cross municipal boundaries, so employees end up paying local taxes to multiple areas. The health insurance (SECT125) difference you noticed is the key clue here. One locality treats pre-tax health insurance as non-taxable wages, while the other includes it in taxable wages. That's why your Box 18 amounts differ by exactly that amount. When you're entering this in your tax software, make sure to enter both localities exactly as they appear in Box 20. Don't round numbers or try to "fix" anything - the software needs the exact amounts to properly calculate your local tax obligations and any refunds you might be owed. One tip: keep a copy of this W-2 handy next year, because you'll likely see the same pattern. Once you do it once, it becomes much easier!

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Chloe Anderson

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Thank you so much for this reassuring explanation! As someone who's never dealt with taxes before, I was really starting to panic that I had somehow messed something up or that my payroll department made an error. It's such a relief to know that this is actually normal for school district employees and that I'm not the first person to be confused by this. Your tip about keeping this W-2 for reference next year is really smart - I definitely want to be more prepared when tax season rolls around again. I'm going to go back into my tax software now and make sure I entered both localities exactly as they appear in Box 20. I think I might have tried to simplify things the first time around, which probably wasn't the right approach. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to explain this to a confused newcomer!

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Aaron Boston

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Don't worry, you're definitely not alone in being confused by this! I went through the exact same thing when I first started working for a school district. The multiple localities thing is super common but nobody really explains it beforehand. One thing that helped me was calling my payroll department after I filed my taxes the first time - they actually have a FAQ about this specific W-2 situation because so many employees ask about it. They confirmed that the Box 18 differences are always related to how each locality treats pre-tax deductions like health insurance, parking, or transit benefits. Since you're filing on your own, I'd also recommend double-checking that your tax software properly calculated any local tax refunds or balances due. Sometimes when you have multiple localities with different withholding rates (like your Box 19 amounts), you might owe a small amount to one and get a refund from the other. You're asking all the right questions and being thorough - that's exactly what you should be doing as a first-time filer!

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Kai Rivera

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This is such a helpful thread! As someone who just started my first job out of college and am completely overwhelmed by tax season, it's really comforting to see that even experienced people found this confusing at first. I haven't gotten my W-2 yet, but I work for a municipal government that serves multiple townships, so I have a feeling I'm going to run into this same situation. The tip about calling payroll after filing is brilliant - I never would have thought to do that. I was planning to just wing it with TurboTax and hope for the best, but now I know to look for that "Add another locality" button and to not panic if I see multiple entries in boxes 18-20. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this thread is going to save me so much stress when my W-2 arrives!

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Naila Gordon

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Has anyone considered the "relation-back doctrine" in this situation? According to my accountant, this is what applies to check payments rather than just constructive receipt. I was told that a check payment is considered made when the check is delivered as long as: - It's dated the day of delivery or earlier - It's delivered before year-end - There's no restriction on cashing it - It's cashed within a reasonable time (usually considered to be within 30 days) This is different from constructive receipt which is more about when the recipient should recognize income.

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Cynthia Love

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This is exactly right. The relation-back doctrine is what the IRS uses for check payments. I just had this issue come up in an audit for my small business. The agent specifically looked at the date on the check, the date of delivery (we had receipts for certified mail), and whether the checks cleared in a reasonable time. As long as all those conditions are met, you can claim the deduction in the year the check was delivered, even if it didn't clear until the next year. The key is having sufficient funds available when the check would have been presented - which sounds like the issue with the ACH hold.

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Liam Fitzgerald

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I went through something very similar with a year-end payment to a subcontractor. The IRS Publication 538 actually addresses this specific scenario under "Payment by Check" rules for cash basis taxpayers. The bottom line is that your deduction belongs in 2023 because that's when you delivered the check, regardless of the ACH processing delays between your accounts. The key factors that support this are: 1) You delivered the check on December 30, 2023 2) The contractor could have deposited it immediately (no restrictions) 3) You had initiated the transfer to ensure funds would be available The fact that ACH rules created a delay in your account doesn't matter for tax purposes - what matters is that you made the payment in good faith with reasonable expectation it would clear. Since it did clear without bouncing, you're golden for the 2023 deduction. For the contractor, they report it as 2023 income since that's when they received the check. The deposit timing is irrelevant under constructive receipt doctrine. Just make sure you keep documentation of the transfer initiation date and the check delivery date in case you ever need to support the timing during an audit.

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Justin Trejo

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This is really helpful! I'm new to dealing with rental property expenses and the timing rules. Just to make sure I understand - if I write a check on December 31st but know my account won't have funds available until January 3rd due to a pending transfer, that would still count as a 2023 deduction as long as the check eventually clears without bouncing? The "good faith" part seems like the key test here. Also, do I need to keep any specific documentation beyond just the cancelled check and bank statements showing the transfer? You mentioned keeping records of the transfer initiation date - is there a particular form or record that's most important for audit purposes?

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Aisha Hussain

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This is such a great question! I went through the same confusion when I switched jobs last year. One thing that really helped me understand the process was learning that the W4 redesign in 2020 made the calculations much more transparent, but also more complex behind the scenes. Your situation with higher salary but lower withholding makes perfect sense when you break it down: 1. Your 6% 401k contribution (about $4,020/year) reduces your taxable income significantly 2. The 2 dependents you claimed likely qualify for the $2,000 child tax credit each, which reduces your withholding 3. The new W4 is generally more accurate than the old allowance system, so you're probably getting closer to your actual tax liability I'd recommend running your numbers through the IRS withholding calculator at least once to make sure you're on track. The calculator will tell you if you need to adjust your W4 to avoid owing at tax time. Since you're concerned about owing, you might want to consider adding a small amount in Step 4(c) for additional withholding - even an extra $25-50 per paycheck can make a big difference come tax season. The key thing to remember is that withholding is just an estimate based on your W4 info. Your actual tax liability depends on your full financial picture for the year.

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Ethan Moore

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This is really helpful! I'm new to this community but have been lurking and reading through these tax discussions. Just wanted to add that the IRS withholding calculator Aisha mentioned is free and actually pretty user-friendly - I was intimidated to try it at first but it walked me through everything step by step. One thing I learned from using it is that it asks about your previous job's withholding if you switched employers mid-year, which sounds like it might apply to your situation. This helps it calculate whether you're on track or need adjustments. The calculator also explains why it's recommending certain changes to your W4, which helped me understand the process better than just getting a "fill out your W4 this way" result. @Sophia Miller - given that you switched jobs this year, definitely worth running both your old and new job info through the calculator to see if you re'withholding enough overall for 2025!

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Zainab Ismail

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Great discussion here! I'm dealing with something similar and wanted to share what I learned from my payroll department. They explained that the actual withholding calculation happens in several steps: 1. Start with gross pay for the pay period 2. Subtract pre-tax deductions (like your 401k, health insurance, etc.) 3. Apply the withholding method from Publication 15-T using your W4 info 4. The system accounts for your filing status, dependents, and any additional withholding you requested What's interesting is that the dependent credits ($2,000 per qualifying child) don't just reduce your final tax - they actually reduce the amount withheld from each paycheck throughout the year. So claiming 2 dependents means roughly $4,000 less in total withholding across the year, which explains why your paychecks might look bigger even with the higher salary. The 401k contribution is probably the biggest factor though - 6% of $67,000 is over $4,000 in pre-tax reduction, which puts you in a lower effective bracket for withholding purposes. Combined with the dependent credits, that's a significant reduction in withholding compared to your previous job. I'd echo the advice about using the IRS withholding calculator, especially since you switched jobs mid-year. It'll help you see if you're on track or need to adjust!

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Chloe Martin

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This breakdown is really helpful! I'm new here but have been reading through all these responses trying to understand my own withholding situation. The part about dependent credits reducing withholding throughout the year rather than just at tax time was something I didn't realize - that makes so much more sense now. I'm curious though - when you say the $2,000 per child reduces withholding across the year, is that divided equally across all paychecks? So if someone gets paid bi-weekly (26 times per year), would each paycheck have about $77 less withheld per dependent ($2,000 รท 26)? Or does the system calculate it differently? Also wondering if there's a way to verify these calculations on your pay stub? My employer just shows "Federal Income Tax" as one line item, but it would be nice to understand how they arrived at that number based on my W4 info.

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Lucas Lindsey

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Based on your description, you should definitely qualify for material participation on both properties. The key thing to remember is that time spent on renovation and improvement activities absolutely counts toward your material participation hours, even when the property isn't generating income. For the property under remodel, all those hours you're spending coordinating with contractors, making design decisions, purchasing materials, and planning the renovation are qualifying activities. The IRS considers these to be part of the management and operation of your rental property. One tip for your CPA meeting: bring documentation of your time logs for both properties. If you haven't been tracking formally, start now and try to reconstruct what you can from recent months. Also, since you mentioned you handle "all aspects" of managing these properties, you'll likely meet Test #2 (substantially all participation) or Test #3 (100+ hours with no one else participating more) even if you fall short of the 500-hour threshold on either individual property. Your CPA should be able to confirm this, but you're in a strong position to claim material participation for both properties and deduct the losses from your remodel property against your other income.

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Emma Taylor

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This is exactly what I needed to hear! I've been stressing about whether the renovation time would count, but it makes perfect sense that all those hours coordinating contractors and making decisions are part of managing the property. I actually started a basic time log last month when I realized how much work we were putting in, so I have some documentation already. For the earlier months, I can probably reconstruct most of it from my calendar appointments with contractors and the receipts for materials purchases - those should help jog my memory about when I was actively working on the project. Thanks for the tip about Tests #2 and #3. Since my wife and I are the only ones doing any of this work, we should definitely qualify under Test #3 at minimum. Really appreciate the detailed response - feeling much more confident going into my CPA meeting now!

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Ian Armstrong

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Just wanted to add another perspective on the documentation piece - I've been managing rental properties for about 8 years and have been through two audits. One thing that really helped me was creating separate time logs for each property, especially when one is under renovation like yours. For the property being remodeled, I'd suggest categorizing your time into buckets like "Planning & Design" (researching materials, meeting with contractors), "Project Management" (coordinating work, inspections), "Financial Management" (getting quotes, paying invoices), and "Direct Labor" (any hands-on work you do yourself). This level of detail shows the IRS that you're truly engaged in material participation, not just passively investing. Also, don't forget that travel time to and from the properties counts toward your hours! If you're driving to meet contractors, inspect work, or pick up materials, log those hours too. It all adds up and strengthens your material participation case. Your situation sounds very similar to mine from a few years back, and my CPA had no issues claiming material participation for both the operating property and the one under renovation. The key is showing that consistent, substantial involvement in the business operations.

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Kelsey Chin

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Anyone know if we're supposed to enter these 1042-S values in local tax software? I use the Australian equivalent of TurboTax and there's nowhere obvious to put "foreign tax paid" from these forms.

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Brooklyn Knight

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For Australian tax returns, you would typically report the income from your 1042-S in the "Foreign Income" section of your tax return (usually question 20 in the individual tax return). The tax withheld shown on your 1042-S can be claimed as a foreign income tax offset. When using Australian tax software, look for options related to "foreign income" or "foreign tax credits" - most software has these sections but they might be in different places depending on which program you're using. If you're using myTax through the ATO portal, there should be a specific section for foreign income where you can enter both the income amount and tax paid.

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Emma Davis

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Great breakdown from everyone here! As someone who's been through this exact situation, I want to emphasize that the 1042-S is really just a "receipt" showing what happened with your US-source income and withholding. The key thing to check is Box 7a (withholding rate) against your country's tax treaty rate. Australia has a pretty favorable treaty with the US - for most types of income like AdSense, the rate should be 0% or very low. If you're seeing 30% withholding, that means your W-8BEN wasn't properly processed or there was some other issue. One thing I learned the hard way: even if everything looks correct on your 1042-S, make sure you're reporting this income on your Australian tax return. The ATO can cross-reference this data, and you'll want to claim any foreign tax credits for whatever was withheld. Keep these forms with your tax records - they're essentially proof of income and tax paid that you may need later. If you're getting different withholding rates year over year for the same income source, that's usually a red flag that something needs to be fixed with your W-8BEN.

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Sophia Gabriel

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm also from Australia and just received my first 1042-S from Google AdSense. The withholding rate shows 0% which seems right based on what you're saying about the Australia-US treaty. I'm a bit confused about one thing though - do I report the gross income amount (before any withholding) or just the net amount I actually received? And since there was 0% withholding, I assume there's no foreign tax credit to claim on my Australian return? Also, should I be keeping any other documentation besides the 1042-S form itself for my records?

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