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Miguel Ramos

Can I use my capital loss to offset dividends and interest income?

Hey tax friends, I'm trying to get my taxes done and I'm stuck on something. I have some capital losses this year (thanks to a few bad stock picks, ugh) and I also have some dividend and interest income from my investments. I was hoping I could use my capital losses to offset the dividend/interest income I earned, especially since my investment income is pushing me just over the threshold for getting the Earned Income Credit. If I could apply those losses against the investment income, I'd qualify for a pretty substantial EIC, which would really help this year. Before I hit submit on my tax software, can someone confirm if this is possible or not? Can capital losses be used to reduce dividend/interest income for tax purposes? It would make a big difference for my refund if I could use these losses to qualify for the EIC. Thanks for any help!

Unfortunately, the tax code doesn't allow you to directly offset dividend and interest income with capital losses. Capital losses can only offset capital gains. If you have more capital losses than capital gains, you can deduct up to $3,000 of those excess losses against your ordinary income (like wages), but not specifically against dividend or interest income for purposes of calculating your EIC eligibility. Investment income (dividends, interest, capital gains) is all counted as part of your adjusted gross income (AGI), and the AGI is what affects your EIC qualification. Capital losses might help lower your overall AGI, but they don't specifically target and reduce the investment income that's being counted for EIC disqualification purposes. Have you looked at other deductions or credits you might qualify for that could bring your AGI down? Or maybe check if you have any business expenses that could be deducted if you have any self-employment income?

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StarSailor

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So if I have $5k in capital losses and $2k in dividend income, can I use $2k of my losses against the dividend income and then the remaining $3k against my other income? Or does it not work that way at all?

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Capital losses and dividend income are treated differently in the tax code. The $5k capital loss would first offset any capital gains you have. If you have no capital gains, then up to $3,000 of the loss can be used to reduce your total ordinary income (which includes wages, self-employment income, etc.), not specifically your dividend income. The dividend income is still counted separately for purposes of the EIC investment income limit, regardless of your capital losses. The IRS looks specifically at investment income (dividends, interest, capital gains) when determining if you exceed the limit for EIC eligibility, which is around $11,150 for 2025. Your capital losses don't directly reduce this calculation.

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Has anyone actually had success with deducting investment expenses against investment income for EIC purposes? My accountant told me those are separate calculations and investment expenses don't help with the EIC investment income test at all.

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Your accountant is right. Investment expenses don't reduce the amount of investment income that counts toward the EIC threshold. The only thing that helps is having less actual investment income (dividends, interest, capital gains, etc). The IRS is very specific about what counts as "investment income" for EIC purposes, and it's basically your total income from investments, not your net after expenses. This is different from how investment income is treated for other tax purposes.

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Thanks for clarifying. I was getting confused by some of the other comments here suggesting that investment expenses could help with EIC qualification. Guess it's always best to double-check these things. I'm still wondering if there's anything I can do this year since I've already received the dividends and interest income. Might just be out of luck for the EIC this time around.

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Am I the only one confused about all these tax terms? I keep seeing capital losses, investments, EIC... how do normal people keep track of all this stuff? I just work my regular job and even my taxes are complicated!

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I totally get your frustration with the tax terminology! As someone who's been through this exact situation, let me break it down simply: **Capital losses** = money you lost when you sold investments for less than you paid **Investment income** = money you earned from dividends, interest, etc. **EIC (Earned Income Credit)** = a tax credit that puts money back in your pocket if your income is below certain limits The bad news is that capital losses can't directly cancel out dividend/interest income for EIC purposes - they're treated as completely separate things by the IRS. Your investment income still counts toward the EIC limit even if you have capital losses. However, don't give up hope! Here are some things that might help: - Capital losses can reduce your overall taxable income by up to $3,000 per year - Double-check that you're calculating your investment income correctly (some people accidentally double-count reinvested dividends) - Look into other credits you might qualify for instead of EIC The tax code is honestly a mess, but understanding these basics can save you real money. Hang in there!

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Thank you so much for breaking this down in plain English! This is exactly the kind of explanation I needed. I've been stressing about whether I was missing something obvious, but it sounds like the tax code just doesn't work the way I hoped it would. The part about double-counting reinvested dividends is interesting - I should definitely double-check that since I have a few funds that automatically reinvest. And you're right about looking into other credits. Even if I can't get the EIC this year, maybe there are other things I'm eligible for that I haven't considered. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain this stuff without all the jargon!

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Just wanted to add one more perspective since I see there's been some confusion in the thread. I'm a tax preparer and can confirm what others have said - capital losses absolutely cannot be used to directly offset dividend and interest income for EIC calculation purposes. However, @Miguel Ramos, there are a few things you might want to double-check before giving up on the EIC: 1. Make sure you're not accidentally including tax-exempt interest (like from municipal bonds) in your investment income calculation - that doesn't count toward the EIC limit 2. If you have any foreign tax credits from international investments, those can sometimes help your overall tax situation 3. The $3,000 capital loss deduction against ordinary income might still lower your AGI enough to qualify for other credits The investment income threshold for EIC is pretty strict - the IRS designed it that way specifically to target the credit toward people who primarily earn money from working rather than investing. It's frustrating when you're right on the edge, but the rules are what they are. If you're close to the threshold, it might be worth having a professional review your return to make sure you're not missing any legitimate deductions or calculating anything incorrectly. Sometimes a fresh set of eyes catches things you missed.

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PaulineW

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This is really helpful advice from a professional perspective! I'm curious about the tax-exempt interest point you mentioned - I do have a small municipal bond fund in my portfolio that I completely forgot about. How do I figure out if any of my interest income is actually tax-exempt? Would that show up differently on my 1099 forms? Also, the foreign tax credit thing is interesting. I have a couple of international ETFs but I always just ignored that tiny "foreign taxes paid" line on my statements thinking it wasn't worth bothering with. Should I actually be claiming those as credits? Thanks for taking the time to give professional insight on this thread - it's really valuable to get clarity from someone who deals with these situations regularly!

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StarStrider

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@PaulineW Great questions! For tax-exempt interest, you'll want to look at your 1099-INT forms - tax-exempt interest shows up in a separate box (usually Box 8) and is clearly labeled. Your brokerage should also send you a separate 1099-INT for any municipal bond funds. The good news is this type of interest doesn't count toward your EIC investment income limit at all. For the foreign tax credits, those small amounts can actually add up! Look for Box 7 on your 1099-DIV forms - that shows "Foreign tax paid." Even if it seems tiny per fund, if you have multiple international holdings it might be worth claiming. You'd use Form 1116 if it's over $300, or you can elect to take it as an itemized deduction instead if it's smaller. @Hunter Brighton is absolutely right about getting a professional review if you re'close to the threshold. Sometimes we catch things like unreported basis adjustments or incorrectly categorized income that can make a real difference. The EIC is worth enough that it s'often cost-effective to pay for an hour of professional time to double-check everything.

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NebulaNova

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I've been following this thread and wanted to share my experience since I was in almost the exact same situation last year. I had about $4,000 in capital losses from some tech stocks that tanked, plus around $8,000 in dividend income that put me just over the EIC threshold. Like everyone else has explained, the capital losses couldn't directly offset the dividend income for EIC purposes, which was super frustrating. But I did learn a few things that helped: 1. I was able to use the full $3,000 capital loss deduction against my ordinary income, which lowered my overall tax bill even though it didn't help with EIC qualification. 2. I found out I had been including some tax-exempt municipal bond interest in my investment income calculation by mistake - removing that brought me closer to the threshold. 3. Most importantly, I discovered that some of what I thought was "dividend income" was actually return of capital distributions that don't count as taxable income at all. My REIT had been sending these and I was treating them all as regular dividends. The whole experience taught me that investment taxation is way more complicated than it seems on the surface. Even though I didn't end up qualifying for the EIC that year, I saved money in other ways and learned to be more careful about tracking different types of investment income going forward. Hope this helps someone else navigating the same confusing situation!

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Zainab Omar

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This is such a helpful real-world example! The point about return of capital distributions is something I never would have thought to check. I have a couple of REITs in my portfolio too and I've just been assuming all the payments are regular dividends. How did you figure out which distributions were return of capital versus actual dividends? Did that show up on your tax forms differently, or did you have to dig into the fund's documentation? And when you say it doesn't count as taxable income, does that mean it also doesn't count toward the EIC investment income limit? I'm definitely going to go back and double-check my investment statements now. It sounds like there might be more nuance to what actually counts as "investment income" for EIC purposes than I originally thought. Thanks for sharing your experience - it's really encouraging to know that even if the main issue (capital losses vs dividends) can't be fixed, there might be other ways to get under that threshold!

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