How to Apply Previous Years' Capital Losses Against Current AGI + New Stock Gains
Just made an unexpectedly good trade last month and netted about $140k in stock sales. Feeling lucky but also confused about my tax situation now. I've been carrying forward capital losses from previous years that add up to roughly $93k total. This is my first time trying to calculate my Estimated Tax Payment for Q1 2025 and I'm completely lost. My main question: Can I choose to use only a portion of my $93k carried-over capital losses against my $140k gain to strategically keep my AGI in a lower tax bracket? Or am I required by law to apply the entire $93k of carried-over losses this year? I've never had to deal with this situation before and I'm trying to avoid making a costly mistake. Any help for this tax-challenged person would be greatly appreciated!
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Amina Toure
You actually don't have a choice here - the tax code requires you to use capital loss carryovers as soon as you have capital gains to offset them against. You can't choose to only use part of your loss carryover to keep yourself in a certain tax bracket. The good news is that using your $93k in capital losses against your $140k gain means you'll only be taxed on about $47k of capital gains, which should help keep your overall tax burden lower this year. When calculating your estimated tax payment for Q1, you'll need to include this net capital gain of $47k in your AGI calculation. Don't forget that capital gains are taxed at different rates than ordinary income depending on how long you held the assets.
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Oliver Zimmermann
•Wait, if I'm in a similar situation but my losses are from THIS tax year (not carried over), can I choose to use only part of them? Or is it the same rule where I have to apply all current year losses against my gains?
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Amina Toure
•For current-year capital losses, the same basic principle applies - they must be used to offset capital gains in the current year. The tax code doesn't allow you to "save" current-year losses for future years if you have current-year gains to offset. If your current-year losses exceed your current-year gains, then you can deduct up to $3,000 of the excess against other income, and carry forward any remaining losses to future years.
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CosmicCommander
I was in almost the exact same situation last year! After trying to figure it out myself for hours, I finally used taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) to analyze my investment statements and past returns. It showed me exactly how my carryover losses had to be applied and calculated my estimated payments automatically. The tool saved me from making a huge mistake - I was planning to only use part of my carryover losses too! It identified that I needed to use all my carried-over losses first before making any strategic tax decisions. The estimated payment calculator also factored in the different tax rates for short vs long-term gains which I had completely overlooked.
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Natasha Volkova
•How exactly does that work? I've got a ton of old statements from different brokerages and calculating my carryover losses has been a nightmare. Can it really figure that out automatically?
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Javier Torres
•Sounds interesting but I'm skeptical. Did it actually help you with the estimated tax payment calculations too? Because that's where I'm most confused - especially with varying income throughout the year.
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CosmicCommander
•The tool works by analyzing your uploaded documents - you can submit past tax returns and investment statements, and it automatically identifies your carried-over losses and current gains. It then applies the tax rules correctly to show how they offset. Yes, it absolutely helped with my estimated tax payments. That was actually the most valuable part for me. It projected my annual income based on my quarterly patterns, factored in my capital gains situation, and calculated what I needed to pay each quarter to avoid underpayment penalties.
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Javier Torres
Just wanted to update after trying taxr.ai - wow, I'm honestly impressed. I was super skeptical (as you can see from my comment above), but it actually sorted through my mess of documents and figured out my exact loss carryover amount. I had been calculating my estimated payments completely wrong. The tool showed me I was about to significantly underpay for Q1 which would have triggered penalties. It also confirmed what others said here - you have to use ALL carryover losses once you have gains. The visualization of how my AGI changed after applying the losses made it super clear. Now I actually understand how this all works instead of just guessing!
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Emma Davis
If you're still struggling with this after trying the software options, I'd recommend calling the IRS directly. They can explain exactly how to handle your specific situation with the capital loss carryovers. I spent WEEKS trying to get through to them last tax season about a similar issue. After countless busy signals and disconnects, I finally discovered Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) - they got me connected to an actual IRS agent in about 15 minutes. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c The agent walked me through exactly how to apply my previous losses against current gains and helped me calculate the correct estimated payment. Saved me from making a $4,000 mistake on my quarterly payments.
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Paolo Ricci
•Wait, so this actually gets you through to a real IRS person? I've tried calling them 5 times already and just get stuck in the automated system loop. How exactly does this work?
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Malik Johnson
•Yeah right. Nobody gets through to the IRS these days. I've been trying for months about an issue with my previous return. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Emma Davis
•Yes, it absolutely connects you to a real live IRS agent. The service basically navigates the phone tree for you and waits on hold in your place. When they finally get an agent on the line, you get a call connecting you directly to that person. No more waiting on hold for hours. For skeptics, I was in the same boat. I tried calling the IRS for 3 weeks straight with no luck. With Claimyr, I was talking to an IRS agent in about 15 minutes. The agent answered all my questions about capital loss carryovers and confirmed I needed to use the full amount against my current year gains.
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Malik Johnson
I have to eat my words. After my skeptical comment above, I got desperate enough to try Claimyr. I literally had an IRS tax specialist on the phone within 20 minutes after trying for MONTHS on my own. The agent confirmed everything that's been said here about capital losses - you must use all carryover losses against current gains, you can't choose to use only part of them to stay in a lower bracket. She also explained that I needed to report the net gain on Form 1040 Schedule D and include it when calculating my estimated tax payment. The clarity was worth every penny (way cheaper than my accountant who kept dodging my questions).
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Isabella Ferreira
Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure you're separating your short-term and long-term capital losses/gains correctly when doing these calculations. They offset each other in a specific order according to IRS rules: 1. Short-term losses offset short-term gains 2. Long-term losses offset long-term gains 3. If one type has net loss and other has net gain, the net loss offsets the net gain This can significantly impact your tax situation since long-term gains are typically taxed at more favorable rates.
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Paolo Ricci
•That's super helpful - I actually have a mix of short and long term stuff in both my current gains and my carried losses. Does the ordering of how these offset each other impact my estimated tax payment calculation?
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Isabella Ferreira
•Yes, the ordering absolutely impacts your estimated tax payment calculation because long-term and short-term gains are taxed at different rates. For example, if you have $50k in short-term gains (taxed at ordinary income rates, which could be up to 37%) and $50k in long-term gains (taxed at capital gains rates, typically 15-20%), how your losses offset these different types of gains will significantly change your tax liability and therefore your required estimated payment.
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Ravi Sharma
Make sure you're also considering state taxes in your calculations! I completely forgot about state-level capital gains taxes when doing my estimates last year and got hit with an underpayment penalty in my state.
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NebulaNomad
•This varies a lot by state though. Some states like Florida and Texas don't have income tax at all, while others like California tax capital gains as ordinary income at rates up to 13.3%. Where are you located, OP?
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Josef Tearle
Great thread everyone! I've been dealing with a similar situation and wanted to add a few practical tips from my experience: 1. **Keep detailed records** - Make sure you have documentation of your carried-over losses from previous years' tax returns (Schedule D from each year). The IRS won't calculate this for you. 2. **Consider timing of future trades** - Since you're required to use all carryover losses this year, think strategically about any additional trades you might make before year-end. You might want to harvest some gains now while you have losses to offset them. 3. **Don't forget about the wash sale rule** - If any of your current gains or previous losses involved stocks you bought/sold within 30 days of each other, the wash sale rule could complicate your calculations. 4. **Plan for next year** - After using up your $93k in carryover losses, you'll be starting fresh next year. Consider whether you want to harvest any losses before December 31st to have carryovers available for 2026. The key takeaway everyone's mentioned is correct - you must use ALL carryover losses against current gains. But proper planning around this requirement can still help optimize your overall tax situation!
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Oscar O'Neil
•This is incredibly helpful, especially the point about planning for next year! I hadn't thought about the fact that after using up all my carryover losses, I'll essentially be starting with a clean slate in 2026. The wash sale rule is something I definitely need to look into - I've been pretty active with some of the same stocks over the past few months. Do you know if there are any tools that can help identify potential wash sale situations, or is it something I need to track manually through all my trades? Also, regarding harvesting losses before year-end - since I'll be using up all my current carryovers anyway, would it make sense to actually harvest some GAINS now while I still have these losses to offset them? Seems like this might be one of those rare situations where realizing gains could be strategic.
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