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As someone who's been lurking in this community while preparing for my first EFIN application, I have to say this thread is like finding gold! I'm completely new to the tax preparation industry and was honestly pretty intimidated by the whole EFIN process until reading through everyone's experiences here. The timeline breakdowns are super helpful - especially knowing that "Awaiting Verification" is actually a good sign and typically takes 10-21 days. I was imagining it could be stuck there for months! And the tip about address consistency across all documents is something I never would have thought to check carefully. I'm planning to submit my application next week, and I'm definitely going to use the organized documentation folder approach mentioned here. The tools like taxr.ai and Claimyr sound really useful too - it's reassuring to know there are ways to get actual information and help during the waiting process instead of just sitting in the dark. Thanks to everyone for being so generous with sharing your real experiences, both the frustrating parts and the success stories. It makes this whole process feel much less scary for those of us just starting out in tax preparation!
Welcome to the community and congratulations on taking the leap into tax preparation! Your thoroughness in researching before submitting is really smart - I wish I had been as prepared when I started my EFIN application process. This thread really has become an amazing resource for newcomers. The collective knowledge here has helped so many of us navigate what can feel like a pretty opaque process. One thing I'd add to all the great advice already shared is to screenshot your status page each time it updates - sometimes it's helpful to have a record of exactly when transitions happened, especially if you need to reference timelines during a phone call with the IRS. The community here really is supportive, and don't hesitate to post updates on your progress or ask questions as you go through the process. Many of us remember how stressful it was not knowing what to expect, so we're always happy to help newcomers feel more confident about the journey ahead. Best of luck with your application next week!
As someone who just successfully completed the EFIN application process last month, I wanted to share a few additional insights that might help others currently waiting. One thing I noticed that hasn't been mentioned yet is that the IRS sometimes updates your status late in the evening or over weekends. I was obsessively checking during business hours and almost missed when my status changed to "Authorization Approved" on a Saturday night around 11 PM. So don't limit your status checks to just weekdays! Also, I want to echo what others have said about the tools mentioned here - I ended up trying taxr.ai after reading about it in this thread and it was genuinely helpful for managing my anxiety during the waiting period. Having some visibility into typical processing patterns made the whole experience much less stressful. For anyone currently in "Awaiting Verification" - hang in there! That stage felt like it lasted forever but it was actually only 16 days for me, right in line with what others have reported. The approval notification came via email first, then the status page updated about an hour later. This community has been incredibly valuable throughout my application process. Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences - it really does help to know we're all going through this together!
Thanks for all the insights everyone! This is really helpful. I'm leaning towards the 401k loan option that @Lilly Curtis mentioned instead of the hardship withdrawal. The idea of paying myself back with interest sounds way better than dealing with taxes and penalties. Quick question though - if I go the loan route, are there any restrictions on using it for education expenses? Or is it more flexible than the hardship withdrawal in terms of how I can use the funds? I'm thinking this might give me more breathing room if my daughter's financial aid situation changes or if other unexpected expenses come up. Also wondering about the repayment terms - is it usually taken out of your paycheck automatically?
401k loans are generally much more flexible than hardship withdrawals! You can use the loan funds for any purpose - there are no restrictions on how you spend the money since you're borrowing from yourself. This gives you way more flexibility if your daughter's financial aid situation changes or other expenses come up. Repayment is typically automatic through payroll deduction, usually over 5 years (though it can be longer for primary residence purchases). The interest rate is usually prime rate plus 1-2%, and all that interest goes back into your own account. Just be aware that if you leave your job, most plans require you to repay the full loan balance quickly (often within 60-90 days) or it gets treated as a taxable distribution. But overall, it's usually a much better option than a hardship withdrawal if you qualify!
Great question! I've been through this exact situation with my son's college expenses. From my experience, most 401k administrators do require the tuition documentation upfront but don't typically follow up to verify exactly how you used the funds afterward. However, you're still legally obligated to use it for the stated hardship purpose. The key thing is keeping good records - save your tuition bill, withdrawal paperwork, and any payment confirmations. While IRS audits are relatively rare, if you're selected, you'll need to prove the hardship was legitimate and the withdrawal amount was reasonable for your situation. One important point: hardship withdrawals can only be for the amount of your immediate financial need, so if you're requesting $16,000 for a $14,500 tuition bill, make sure you can justify those additional fees/expenses with documentation. Also worth considering - have you looked into a 401k loan instead? You'd pay yourself back with interest rather than facing taxes and the 10% early withdrawal penalty. The loan option is much more flexible in terms of how you can use the funds and might be better for your situation.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually just starting to research this whole process for my own situation. Quick question - when you mention that hardship withdrawals can only be for the "immediate financial need," does that mean I can't include things like room and board costs, just the direct tuition? And for the 401k loan option, is there typically a minimum amount you have to borrow, or can you take out smaller amounts as needed throughout the semester?
I've been battling Error 6001 for about 16 months now and this thread is honestly a lifesaver! The amount of detailed, actionable advice here is incredible compared to the runaround I've been getting from official channels. What really resonates with me is the pattern everyone's describing - both agencies acting like they've never heard of Error 6001 before, then immediately passing the buck to the other side. I've had at least 8 calls where IRS says "that's an ID.me authentication issue" and ID.me says "the IRS system is rejecting you." It's maddening! I'm taking notes on all the specific phone numbers and approaches mentioned here: - Taxpayer Advocate Service (1-877-777-4778) - Identity Protection Specialized Unit (800-908-4490) - The IAL2 authentication status refresh request - Checking exact name/address formatting between ID.me and tax returns - Filing Form 8822 to force a system refresh The historical data conflicts mentioned by @PrinceJoe and name formatting issues from @Jade Lopez are particularly eye-opening. I've moved 3 times and gotten married (name change) since setting up my ID.me account, so there's probably all kinds of mismatched data causing authentication chaos. Going to start with the simple formatting checks first, then work my way up through the specialized departments if needed. Thank you everyone for sharing your war stories and victories - this gives me actual hope after over a year of frustration! š
@Ravi Choudhury Welcome to the Error 6001 support group! š Your situation with the moves and name change definitely sounds like a recipe for authentication chaos. I m'pretty new to this community too but already learned more here than from months of official support calls. The systematic approach you ve'outlined sounds solid - starting with the simple formatting checks makes total sense before escalating to the specialized departments. That marriage name change especially could be creating all kinds of database conflicts between your old and new identity info. Definitely try that Form 8822 trick to force a system refresh - seems like several people have had success with that approach. Rooting for you to finally escape the Error 6001 nightmare! This thread really shows how much better community knowledge is than the official runaround we all get stuck in.
I've been struggling with this exact same Error 6001 for about 7 months now and honestly was starting to think I was the only one! This thread is like finding buried treasure - so many specific solutions I never would have known about otherwise. The finger-pointing between IRS and ID.me is SO real. I've literally been told by IRS phone support "we don't support ID.me technical issues" and then ID.me support says "the IRS portal is rejecting your authentication, we can't fix that." It's like being trapped in bureaucracy purgatory! What's really helpful is seeing the pattern of historical data mismatches causing these issues. I've had 2 address changes and filed some returns with my nickname vs full legal name, so there's probably all kinds of conflicting info in their systems. I'm definitely going to try the name formatting check first - seems like such a simple thing but apparently these systems are incredibly picky about exact matches. Then I'll work through the Taxpayer Advocate Service route if needed. Thank you to everyone sharing your experiences and actual solutions! This community knowledge is worth its weight in gold compared to the generic troubleshooting loops we get stuck in with official support. Finally feels like there's a light at the end of the tunnel! š
Great question! You're dealing with what's called "pre-rental" expenses, and the good news is that most of what you described should be deductible. Since you inherited the property in January and placed it in service in October of the same year, with clear intent to rent it out, those repair expenses should qualify for deduction. The key distinction is that repairs like fixing plumbing, patching roof leaks, and general maintenance are typically deductible in the year paid, even if done before officially renting. However, that water heater replacement would likely be considered a capital improvement that needs to be depreciated over 27.5 years (unless it qualifies for the de minimis safe harbor if under $2,500). Make sure to keep detailed records showing your rental intent from the beginning - any correspondence with contractors, rental market research, listing attempts, etc. This documentation will support your position if the IRS ever questions the timing of these deductions. Also consider whether you might qualify for Section 199A deductions on your rental income once you start receiving it - it's worth looking into for additional tax savings!
This is really helpful, thanks! I'm definitely going to look into that Section 199A deduction - I had no idea that was even a thing for rental properties. Quick follow-up question: for the documentation you mentioned about showing rental intent, would things like getting insurance quotes for rental coverage or researching comparable rent prices in the area count as evidence? I did both of those things back in February/March while I was planning the repairs.
Just to add another perspective from someone who's been through multiple property acquisitions - timing documentation is absolutely crucial for pre-rental expenses. I learned this the hard way when the IRS audited one of my rental properties a few years back. Beyond what others have mentioned, I'd also suggest documenting any property inspections you had done, communications with property management companies (even if you didn't hire them), and any advertisements or listings you may have posted. The IRS wants to see a clear "business purpose" timeline. One thing that really helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet tracking all expenses by category (repairs vs. improvements) with dates and descriptions. It made tax prep so much easier and showed the IRS I was treating this as a legitimate business from day one. Also worth noting - if you did any work yourself on the property, you can't deduct your own labor, but you can deduct materials and any tools you purchased specifically for the rental property work.
This is such solid advice! The spreadsheet idea is brilliant - I wish I had thought of that from the beginning. I'm definitely going to create one now even though I'm a bit late to the game. Quick question about the tools - if I bought a drill or other tools that I'll use for multiple properties (not just this one), can I still deduct the full cost or do I need to prorate it somehow? I bought quite a few tools this year that I'll definitely be using for maintenance on all my rentals going forward. Also, did the IRS audit end up going smoothly for you with all that documentation? I'm always nervous about getting audited, especially with rental properties since the rules seem so complex.
Angel Campbell
This thread has been incredibly informative! I'm a tax preparer and see this per diem classification issue constantly during tax season. Unfortunately, many clients don't realize there's a problem until they're sitting in my office with their W-2s. One thing I'd add for anyone dealing with this situation: if your employer has been incorrectly classifying per diem payments as non-taxable, you may also be missing out on Social Security and Medicare credits. These payments should have payroll taxes withheld too, not just income taxes. For those mentioning the federal per diem rate system - that's often the best solution for companies that want to provide tax-free per diem without the paperwork burden. The 2024 standard per diem rate for most locations is $166/day ($107 for lodging, $59 for meals), though high-cost areas have higher rates. Companies can pay up to these amounts with minimal documentation requirements. Also, if anyone discovers they've been underreporting income due to misclassified per diem, don't panic about amended returns. The IRS actually prefers voluntary corrections and the process is usually straightforward. Just make sure to include all required forms and calculate interest correctly.
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Chloe Taylor
ā¢Thank you so much for adding the tax preparer perspective! The point about missing Social Security and Medicare credits is something I hadn't considered. I'm realizing my situation might be even more complicated than I initially thought. I've been receiving $150/day in "non-taxable" per diem for about 18 months now, which means I'm potentially looking at around $27,000 in income that should have had payroll taxes withheld. This could affect my Social Security earnings record too, right? Also, you mentioned the standard federal per diem rate is $166/day for 2024. Since my company pays $150, would switching to the federal system potentially allow them to keep paying the same amount but make it legitimately tax-free? That seems like it could be a win-win solution when I talk to our HR department. I'm definitely going to look into those amended returns, but it's reassuring to know the IRS prefers voluntary corrections. Do you have any advice on whether it's better to handle the amendments myself or work with a tax professional given the complexity with payroll taxes?
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Aisha Khan
ā¢Yes, you're absolutely right about the Social Security credits issue. When per diem is incorrectly classified as non-taxable, those earnings don't get reported to Social Security, which could affect your future benefits calculation. With $27,000 in unreported wages over 18 months, this is definitely significant. Regarding the federal per diem rates - yes, if your company switched to the federal system and you're traveling to standard-cost locations, your $150/day would likely qualify as legitimately tax-free per diem. They'd just need to implement proper documentation (business purpose, dates, locations) and ensure you return any unused amounts if they advance money. For amended returns involving payroll tax issues, I'd strongly recommend working with a tax professional. The complexity increases significantly when you're dealing with both income tax corrections AND missing payroll tax withholdings. A pro can help coordinate with your employer to properly report the additional wages and ensure all the Social Security Administration reporting gets corrected too. The good news is that since you're being proactive about this, you have options to resolve it properly. Most employers are willing to work with employees on these corrections, especially when it helps them get compliant with payroll tax regulations.
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Zara Mirza
As someone who works in payroll for a mid-sized construction company, I wanted to add some perspective from the employer side of this issue. We actually went through this exact situation about three years ago when our CPA flagged our per diem practices during an annual review. We had been paying $135/day to crews working more than 75 miles from our home office, treating it as non-taxable reimbursement without requiring any documentation. Turns out we were creating tax problems for about 40 employees and exposing the company to potential payroll tax penalties. The solution we implemented might be helpful for others to suggest to their employers: we switched to the GSA federal per diem rate system. Now employees just need to submit a simple travel log with dates, job locations, and business purpose. As long as the per diem amount stays within federal limits for each location, it remains truly non-taxable and we don't need individual receipts. For employees who had been receiving incorrectly classified per diem in previous years, we worked with our payroll company to issue corrected W-2s and helped coordinate the amended return process. Most employees were understanding once we explained we were fixing the issue to protect everyone from IRS problems. If you're dealing with this situation, approaching your employer with a solution (like the federal per diem system) rather than just pointing out the problem tends to get much better results. Most business owners want to do things correctly - they just need guidance on the proper procedures.
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Gabriel Freeman
ā¢This is exactly the kind of employer perspective I was hoping to see! It's reassuring to know that companies can work with employees to fix these issues retroactively. I'm curious about the implementation process - when you switched to the GSA federal per diem system, did you find the travel log requirement created much additional administrative burden for your crews? I'm wondering how detailed the documentation needs to be and whether it's something that could be done through a simple mobile app or if it requires more formal paperwork. Also, you mentioned working with employees on corrected W-2s for previous years. Did most employees end up owing significant additional taxes, or were there ways to minimize the impact? I'm trying to gauge what I might be looking at if my company decides to correct past years rather than just going forward. Thanks for sharing the employer side of this - it definitely helps me think about how to frame this as a solution when I approach our management!
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