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I've been a tax preparer for over 15 years and unfortunately FFFF has become increasingly unreliable. The issue you're describing - getting bounced back to the start page without any error message - is a known problem that affects thousands of users each filing season. Here's what I recommend trying in this order: 1. Use Internet Explorer or Edge in compatibility mode - I know it sounds outdated, but FFFF was built on older web standards and sometimes works better with IE 2. Try accessing the site between 11 PM - 6 AM EST when server load is lowest 3. Make sure you're entering your Social Security Number exactly as it appears on your Social Security card (no dashes, spaces, or extra characters) 4. If your uncle filed last year, try using his prior year AGI from his 2023 return - sometimes the system requires this for verification even during account creation If none of these work, honestly consider switching to one of the IRS Free File partner programs. They're much more stable and still completely free if you qualify. TaxSlayer and FreeTaxUSA are particularly reliable options. The sad reality is that FFFF gets minimal funding and technical support from the IRS, so these kinds of issues persist year after year. Don't waste too much more time fighting with it when there are better free alternatives available.

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Yuki Tanaka

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This is incredibly helpful advice from someone with real experience! I'm going to try the Internet Explorer compatibility mode suggestion first - I never would have thought of that but it makes sense given how old the FFFF system probably is. The prior year AGI verification tip is particularly useful since my uncle did file last year. I'll make sure to have his 2023 return handy when I try again tonight during those off-peak hours you mentioned. I'm also looking into the Free File partner programs you suggested. At this point, I just need something that works reliably since I have multiple family returns to complete. TaxSlayer and FreeTaxUSA both look promising from what I can see on the IRS website. Thanks for the reality check about FFFF's technical limitations too. It's frustrating but good to know this isn't just user error on my part. Really appreciate you taking the time to share your professional insights!

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I've been experiencing the exact same frustrating issue with Free File Fillable Forms! After reading through all these suggestions, I wanted to share what finally worked for me after days of getting bounced back to the start page. The combination that did it: Using Firefox in private/incognito mode during off-peak hours (around 7 AM), manually typing everything without any password manager, and most importantly - making sure I had my 2023 AGI handy for verification. Turns out the system was silently failing because I didn't have last year's return information readily available. I also discovered that if you have ANY popup blockers or privacy extensions running, FFFF will fail without telling you. I had to disable uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger completely, not just pause them. It's absolutely ridiculous that a government service requires this much troubleshooting, but I hope this helps others avoid the same headache. The filing deadline stress is real when you're handling multiple family returns!

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Steven Adams

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This is exactly the kind of detailed troubleshooting info I was hoping to find! I've been banging my head against the wall with FFFF for almost two weeks now. The popup blocker issue is something I hadn't considered - I run several privacy extensions that could definitely be interfering. I'm going to try your exact combination tomorrow morning: Firefox private mode at 7 AM with all extensions disabled and my uncle's 2023 return pulled up for the AGI. It's crazy that we have to become IT specialists just to file taxes, but I really appreciate you sharing what actually worked. Did you run into any other quirks once you got past the account creation, or was it smooth sailing from there? I'm worried there might be more hidden gotchas in the actual form completion process.

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Natalie Khan

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Once you get past the account creation hurdle, the form completion is generally much smoother, though there are a few things to watch out for. The session timeout issue mentioned earlier is real - save your progress frequently, especially after completing each major section. One gotcha I ran into: if you need to upload any supporting documents (like 1099s), do it during the same session when you're entering the data. I tried to come back later to upload a missing 1099 and it caused validation errors that took forever to resolve. Also, double-check all your math before submitting. The FFFF system doesn't have the same error-checking that commercial software does, so small calculation mistakes can slip through and cause problems later with the IRS. The good news is once you're in and working, it's mostly stable. Just plan to complete each return in one sitting if possible to avoid session issues. Hope this helps with your family returns!

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Has anyone considered the alternative minimum tax (AMT) implications when selling RSUs? I got absolutely destroyed last year because I didn't factor this in when executing my strategy.

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Paolo Marino

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AMT typically hits harder with ISOs rather than RSUs. With RSUs, you already paid ordinary income tax at vesting, so the AMT impact should be minimal. Were you perhaps mixing up RSUs with ISOs?

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Gabriel Ruiz

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One thing I learned the hard way is to also consider your overall income timing when deciding which RSU lots to sell. If you're expecting a bonus or other large income event later this year, it might make sense to realize those capital losses now to offset the higher tax bracket you'll be in. Conversely, if you're between jobs or expecting lower income next year, you might want to hold off on selling the loss lots until you're in a lower bracket where the deduction is more valuable. The $3,000 annual limit on deducting capital losses against ordinary income means timing can really matter for maximizing the tax benefit.

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James Martinez

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This is such a crucial point that often gets overlooked! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I'm expecting a promotion and salary bump in Q4, which will push me into a higher tax bracket. Based on your advice, it sounds like I should accelerate selling my loss-making RSU lots now while I'm still in the lower bracket, rather than waiting until next year when the losses might be more valuable against higher-bracket income. One question though - if I have more than $3,000 in capital losses, do the excess losses carry forward to future years? I'm trying to figure out if there's a strategic advantage to realizing a large loss all at once versus spreading it out over multiple years.

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Giovanni Rossi

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I went through this exact situation last year and learned a few hard lessons that might help you avoid my mistakes. First, when you amend your return, make sure you also calculate and pay any penalties for late payment since the IRS considers fellowship income as earned throughout the year, not just when you file. For entering it in TurboTax, go to Federal > Income & Expenses > Less Common Income > Other Reportable Income. Look for "Other Income Types" and select "Other Income Not Already Reported." Enter your fellowship stipend amount and put "Fellowship" in the description field. One thing nobody mentioned yet - if your fellowship is over $600 and you didn't receive a 1099, you technically should file Form 1099-MISC for yourself (weird, I know). Not everyone does this, but it's technically required. Also, don't forget that you'll owe self-employment tax on the fellowship income since it's not subject to payroll taxes. The quarterly estimated payments you're planning are smart, but calculate them based on your total expected tax liability, not just the fellowship portion. Use Form 1040-ES and remember the safe harbor rule - if you pay 100% of last year's tax liability through quarterlies, you won't owe penalties even if you end up owing more.

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PixelPrincess

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Wait, are you sure about the self-employment tax on fellowship income? I thought fellowships were specifically exempt from self-employment tax since there's no employer-employee relationship. That's one of the key differences between fellowship stipends and regular wages - they're subject to income tax but not FICA/self-employment taxes. Also, I don't think you need to file a 1099-MISC for yourself - that doesn't sound right. Could you clarify where you got that information? I want to make sure I'm not missing something important for my own situation.

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@PixelPrincess is absolutely correct - fellowship stipends are NOT subject to self-employment tax. That's a major distinction between fellowships and other types of income. Fellowship income is subject to regular income tax but specifically exempt from FICA and self-employment taxes because there's no service requirement or employer-employee relationship. Also, you definitely don't need to file a 1099-MISC for yourself - that's not how the tax system works. The 1099-MISC is issued by payers to recipients, not by recipients to themselves. Since universities aren't required to issue tax forms for fellowships under $600 (and many don't even for larger amounts), you simply report the income directly on your return. @Giovanni, I think you might be confusing fellowship income with independent contractor income, which would be subject to self-employment tax. The key difference is that fellowships are for educational purposes without a service requirement, while contractor work involves providing services in exchange for payment. For the original poster, this is good news - you only owe regular income tax on your fellowship, not the additional 15.3% self-employment tax!

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Arnav Bengali

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I went through this exact same situation during my first year of grad school! You're definitely not alone in being confused - fellowship income is one of those weird tax situations that most software and support staff don't handle well. For TurboTax specifically, here's what worked for me: Go to Federal > Income & Expenses > Less Common Income, then look for "Other Income" or "Miscellaneous Income." There should be an option for scholarship/fellowship income that wasn't reported on a tax form. Enter just the stipend portion (living expenses) as taxable income - not the tuition or fees that went directly to the school. One tip that saved me a lot of headache: contact your graduate school's financial aid office and ask for a "fellowship tax allocation letter." They can break down exactly what portion went to qualified education expenses (tuition, fees, required books) versus your taxable stipend. Most schools can provide this even if they don't automatically issue tax forms. Also, you're absolutely right to plan quarterly payments for 2024! Fellowship recipients are technically considered self-employed for estimated tax purposes, so you'll want to use Form 1040-ES to calculate those payments. It's much easier than dealing with amendments later. The good news is that fellowship stipends are only subject to regular income tax, not self-employment tax, so at least you don't have to worry about that additional 15.3%!

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Yara Elias

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This is really helpful! I'm a first-year PhD student dealing with the same fellowship tax confusion. Quick question about the "fellowship tax allocation letter" - when you requested this from your financial aid office, did they understand what you were asking for right away, or did you have to explain what you needed it for? I'm worried they'll look at me like I'm speaking a foreign language when I call tomorrow. Also, did the letter they provided work smoothly with TurboTax's fellowship income section, or did you still have to do some manual adjustments to get everything entered correctly?

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I went through this exact same situation two years ago and can definitely relate to the stress of discovering you've been reporting the wrong basis for multiple years! The consensus here is correct - you really should file amended returns for all three years (2020, 2021, 2022) rather than just correcting it going forward. I know it seems like a hassle, but Form 8606 creates an official paper trail with the IRS for your nondeductible contributions, and having incorrect basis amounts on file will cause problems down the road when you take distributions. One thing I'd add is to make sure you understand WHY your basis calculations were wrong in the first place. Common mistakes include not properly tracking contributions that span tax years (like contributions made in early 2021 for tax year 2020), or incorrectly including rollover amounts in your basis calculations. When you file your 1040-X forms, be very clear in Part III about what you're correcting. Something like "Correcting basis amount reported on Form 8606 for nondeductible IRA contributions" helps the IRS processors understand exactly what they're looking at. The good news is that since you haven't taken any distributions yet, this is purely a record-keeping correction with no immediate tax impact. But getting it fixed now will save you major headaches (and potentially double taxation) in the future.

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Lydia Bailey

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I went through a very similar situation about 18 months ago - discovered I had been calculating my Form 8606 basis incorrectly for three consecutive years. The stress of realizing the mistake was overwhelming at first, but I can confirm that filing amended returns was absolutely the right path forward. One thing I learned during this process is that the IRS actually appreciates when taxpayers proactively correct these types of errors, especially when no additional tax is owed. In my case, like yours, I hadn't taken any distributions yet, so there was no immediate tax impact. The amendment process itself was more straightforward than I expected. For each year, I filed Form 1040-X with a corrected Form 8606 attached. In Part III of the 1040-X, I wrote something like "Correcting nondeductible IRA contribution basis reported on Form 8606 - see attached corrected form." The IRS processed all three amendments without any issues or follow-up questions. What really helped me was creating a detailed worksheet showing my correct basis calculations for each year, including how the errors carried forward from year to year. This became invaluable reference material when preparing the amendments and will be helpful for future tax filings. Don't beat yourself up too much about the mistake - Form 8606 can be tricky, and basis tracking errors are more common than you might think. The important thing is that you caught it before taking distributions and are taking steps to fix it properly.

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Amina Sy

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation! I'm curious about the detailed worksheet you mentioned - did you create that yourself or use a specific template? I'm trying to figure out the best way to organize my corrected basis calculations to make sure I don't make any more errors when preparing the amendments. Also, roughly how long did it take for the IRS to process your three amended returns? I'm hoping to get this resolved relatively quickly since I'm planning to start taking some distributions in the next year or two.

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Omar Hassan

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Don't forget that once you move to Japan you'll need to file Form 2555 for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion! This is huge - it lets you exclude up to $128,750 (for 2025) of foreign earned income from US taxation if you meet either the physical presence test or bona fide residence test.

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Chloe Taylor

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And remember that the FEIE only applies to earned income like salary - not investment income, rental income, etc. You'll still owe US tax on those unless you use foreign tax credits.

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Diego Vargas

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I went through this exact situation when I married my Korean spouse! A few additional things to consider that I learned the hard way: If you decide to get your wife an ITIN and file jointly, be prepared for the timeline - it can take 7-11 weeks to get the ITIN, and you might need to file for an extension if you're doing this during tax season. Also, make sure to get certified copies of her passport from the Japanese consulate or use an IRS-authorized Certifying Acceptance Agent in Japan rather than trying to mail original documents. One thing I wish someone had told me: if your wife has any financial accounts in Japan with your name on them (even just as a beneficiary), you might need to report those on Form 8938 (FATCA) in addition to FBAR, depending on the account values. The thresholds are different for overseas residents. Also, since you're planning to move to Japan, start keeping detailed records of your time outside the US now. You'll need this for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion physical presence test. I use a simple spreadsheet tracking entry/exit dates - it's saved me so much headache come tax time! Good luck with everything, and congratulations on your marriage!

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Amina Bah

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This is incredibly helpful advice, thank you! I had no idea about the Form 8938 requirement - that could have been a nasty surprise. Quick question about the record keeping for the physical presence test: do I need to track partial days too, or just full days outside the US? And when you say "certified copies from the Japanese consulate," do you mean the US consulate in Japan, or can Japanese government offices provide the certification that the IRS accepts? Also, did you end up filing jointly or separately with your Korean spouse? I'm still torn between the two options.

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