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Is filing taxes necessary if someone only receives social security and VA benefits?

My dad has been living solely on social security payments and VA benefits for the past 5 years, but hasn't filed any tax returns during this time. I've been getting concerned about this situation lately. I was under the impression that both social security and VA benefits are already post-tax income sources. Given that these are his only income streams, I'm wondering if I need to be pressuring him to get caught up on filing for the previous 3 tax years. If he truly has $0 in taxable income, does it even matter whether he files or not? I don't want to stress him out unnecessarily, but I also don't want him to get in trouble with the IRS down the road. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

I'd also recommend checking if your dad qualifies for the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance (VITA) program. Since he's a senior with what sounds like a straightforward tax situation, he could get free tax preparation help from IRS-certified volunteers. Many VITA sites specifically focus on seniors and veterans, so they'd be familiar with both Social Security and VA benefit taxation rules. Even if he doesn't need to file, they could review his situation at no cost and provide official documentation of that determination. Plus, if there are any beneficial credits or refunds he's missing out on, they'd catch those too. You can find locations at irs.gov/vita - many operate year-round, not just during tax season.

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I've been following this discussion and wanted to share some practical steps that might help you move forward with confidence. Since your dad's situation involves both Social Security and VA benefits, here's what I'd recommend: First, gather his benefit statements - his Social Security Statement (available at ssa.gov) and any VA benefit letters showing the types and amounts of benefits he receives. This will help determine exactly what income sources we're working with. Second, calculate his "combined income" for Social Security taxation purposes. This is: adjusted gross income + nontaxable interest + half of Social Security benefits. If this amount is under $25,000 (single) or $32,000 (married filing jointly), then his Social Security isn't taxable. Third, since VA disability compensation is always tax-free but VA pension might be different (as Luca mentioned), knowing which type he receives is crucial. Given that he's been receiving these benefits for 5 years without filing, and assuming his income has been consistent, it's likely he hasn't had a filing requirement. But getting this confirmed through VITA would give you both peace of mind and potentially uncover any benefits he's entitled to claim. The good news is there's no penalty for not filing when you're not required to, and no penalty for filing late when you don't owe taxes. You're asking all the right questions to protect your dad's interests!

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Yes, even small amounts of interest income should be included in the combined income calculation - there's no de minimis threshold for this purpose. So if your dad earns $50-100 annually in bank interest, that would be added to his adjusted gross income when determining if any portion of his Social Security becomes taxable. However, given the amounts you're describing, it's very unlikely this would push him over the $25,000 threshold. For example, if he receives $18,000 in Social Security annually and earns $75 in interest, his combined income would be: $75 (interest) + $9,000 (half of Social Security) = $9,075, which is well below the threshold. The bank should send him a 1099-INT if the interest is $10 or more annually, so that would show up in his records. Even if he's not required to file a return, having this documentation organized will be helpful when you meet with VITA volunteers - they can walk through the exact calculation with his real numbers and give you a definitive answer. Keep in mind that if his total income is this low, he might actually qualify for certain refundable credits that could result in a refund even if no taxes were withheld, which could be another benefit of filing.

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Yes, even small amounts of interest income need to be included in the calculation - there's no de minimis threshold for the Social Security taxation formula. So if your dad earns $50-100 in bank interest annually, that would be added to his adjusted gross income when calculating his "combined income." However, given the amounts you're describing, it's highly unlikely this would push him over the $25,000 threshold. For example, if he receives $20,000 in Social Security annually, his combined income calculation would be: $100 (interest) + $10,000 (half of SS) = $10,100, which is well below the threshold. The bank should send him a Form 1099-INT if the interest is $10 or more annually, so that would be another document to gather along with the benefit statements. Even though the amounts are small, having complete documentation will help VITA give you the most accurate assessment of his situation. The systematic approach really does make it manageable - once you have all the documents in hand, the actual determination becomes much clearer!

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Can I submit Form 5329 separately from my tax return? HR Block isn't working right

I'm having issues with TurboTax not processing my Form 5329 correctly. I've put in all the information and checked the waiver option, and I can see on the preview that Form 5329 is showing some weird code with ":\\" at the end. The software seems buggy when handling this form. Has anyone had experience filing Form 5329 separately from their regular tax return? I'm thinking I might just file my regular return through the software and then submit the 5329 separately to avoid these glitches. Is this allowed? Will the IRS process it correctly if I do this? I'm trying to avoid the early withdrawal penalty by using the waiver option, but the software is making this unnecessarily complicated.

Has anyone successfully e-filed Form 5329 with HR Block or TurboTax when claiming a waiver? I've tried three different software programs and they all seem to have issues with this specific scenario.

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I actually gave up on TurboTax and switched to FreeTaxUSA after reading these comments. Their system handles the 5329 much better - it actually has a specific section explaining each exception code and walks you through the waiver process step by step.

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Thanks for the FreeTaxUSA recommendation. Just tried it and it's working so much better for my Form 5329! The interface actually explains what each field means and the waiver section is clearly labeled.

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I went through this exact same situation last year with TurboTax having issues with Form 5329. The weird code with ":\\" that you're seeing is definitely a software glitch - I had the same thing happen. I ended up filing my regular return through TurboTax and then mailing Form 5329 separately on paper. It worked perfectly fine. Just make sure to: 1. Fill out your personal info (name, SSN, address) at the top 2. Only complete the sections that apply to your situation 3. Sign and date the form 4. Include a brief explanation letter if you're claiming a waiver 5. Mail it to the address listed in the Form 5329 instructions The IRS processed mine without any issues and I didn't face any penalties. Your regular refund will come through normally since they're processed separately. Don't let buggy software stress you out - the paper route is totally fine for this form!

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For the explanation letter, you don't need anything fancy - just a simple one-page note is fine. For the first-time homebuyer exception, I'd include something like: "Dear IRS, I am claiming the first-time homebuyer exception for my early retirement distribution reported on Form 5329. The distribution of $[amount] was used within 120 days of receipt to purchase my principal residence at [address] on [closing date]. This is my first home purchase and I qualify under IRC Section 72(t)(2)(F). Sincerely, [your signature and printed name]" Keep it brief but include the key facts they need to verify your eligibility. The IRS mainly wants to see that you understand the requirements and used the funds appropriately. I attached a copy of my closing statement too, just to be thorough, but I'm not sure that's required.

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For the explanation letter, you don't need anything fancy - just a simple one-page note is fine. Something like "I am claiming the first-time homebuyer exception under IRC Section 72(t)(2)(F) for my early 401(k) withdrawal used toward the purchase of my primary residence." Then include basic details like the withdrawal amount, date of home purchase, and that this was your first home purchase. The IRS mainly wants to see that you understand which exception you're claiming and that you have the facts to back it up. Keep it brief and factual - they're not looking for a detailed story, just confirmation that you meet the requirements. I'd also suggest keeping copies of your home purchase documents just in case they ever ask for verification later, though that's pretty rare for straightforward cases like this.

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My company can't provide me with a state ID for my W-2 taxes

I've been going back and forth with my HR department for weeks about this state ID issue on my W-2 and I'm getting nowhere. So basically when I look at my W-2 form for 2024, the box for the state ID number is completely empty. When I asked my company about it, they said they can't provide a state ID number because our company isn't registered in my state or something like that? I'm really confused because I've always had a state ID on previous W-2s from other jobs. How am I supposed to file my state taxes correctly without this information? I live in one state but work remotely for a company based in another state, if that matters. Our payroll person just keeps saying "we don't have one for your state" which doesn't seem right to me. Is this even legal? Can a company just not provide a state ID? And more importantly, how do I file my state taxes correctly without this information? Really appreciate any advice!

I work for a state tax department and can confirm that this is a very common situation that we see all the time. The key thing to understand is that your employer's lack of a state ID in your resident state doesn't affect your tax filing obligations at all. Here's what you need to know: 1) You're still required to report all your income to your resident state regardless of where your employer is located, 2) Most tax software will let you leave the employer state ID field blank or you can enter "N/A" or "NONE", 3) Your state return will process normally without this information. The real issue you should be focusing on is whether your employer withheld the correct amount of state taxes for your resident state. If they didn't withhold any state taxes because they're not registered in your state, you might owe a significant amount when you file. I'd recommend checking your paystubs to see what state taxes (if any) were withheld throughout the year. If you need to speak with someone at your state tax department about this, most states have dedicated helplines for wage and withholding questions. They can give you the exact guidance for your specific state's requirements.

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This is a great thread with lots of helpful information! As someone who's dealt with multi-state tax issues, I wanted to add that if you're working remotely and your employer isn't withholding state taxes for your resident state, you should also check if your state has any reciprocity agreements with your employer's state. Some states have agreements where if you work in one state but live in another, you might only need to file in your resident state. This could potentially save you from having to file returns in multiple states. Also, if you're planning to stay with this remote employer long-term, it might be worth asking them to register in your state so they can properly withhold state taxes going forward - it would make your tax situation much simpler next year. The tools mentioned here like taxr.ai sound really helpful for navigating these complex multi-state situations. It's frustrating that tax software doesn't always handle these edge cases well, especially with remote work becoming so common.

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Great question about VA/MD reciprocity! Actually, Virginia and Maryland do have a reciprocity agreement, which means you typically only need to file in your resident state (Virginia) and won't owe taxes to Maryland on the same income. You can find comprehensive reciprocity agreement information on most state tax department websites - Virginia's should have a list of all states they have agreements with. As for approaching your employer about registering in Virginia, I'd suggest framing it as a compliance question rather than a personal request. You could ask HR something like "I want to make sure I'm handling my tax obligations correctly - should the company be withholding Virginia state taxes since I'm a Virginia resident?" Many companies actually prefer to get ahead of these issues once they're aware of them, since having multiple remote employees in a state without proper registration can create bigger compliance problems down the road. You might also mention that Virginia has been increasingly aggressive about pursuing companies with remote workers who should be registered there, so it could save them potential issues later. Frame it as helping the company stay compliant rather than asking for a personal favor.

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For reciprocity agreements, the IRS website has a good overview, but each state's department of revenue website will have the most current information. For VA/MD specifically, Maryland does have reciprocity with several states, but I believe Virginia residents working in Maryland still need to file in both states and claim credits to avoid double taxation. As for approaching HR about registering in your state, I'd frame it as a business benefit rather than a personal request. You could mention that proper state tax withholding would help ensure compliance and reduce administrative burden for both the company and employees. Many companies are actually grateful when employees bring these issues to their attention because it helps them avoid potential compliance problems down the road. You might also mention that with remote work becoming permanent for many companies, having proper multi-state registration could benefit other current and future employees too.

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457 Withdrawal Strategy to Avoid State Tax - Does it Work?

I'm in a bit of a unique situation and wondering if anyone has experience with this. My wife and I live in a no-income-tax state right on the border with what I'll call "High Tax State." She commutes across the border to work for the county government in High Tax State where she's been contributing to a 457 deferred compensation plan. We're thinking about our long-term strategy here. If we eventually roll her 457 into an IRA and then make withdrawals years down the road (probably in retirement), do you think High Tax State would somehow track us down and try to collect income tax on those IRA withdrawals? Or would they essentially lose track of us since we'd no longer have any connection to that state? I know they're aggressive with taxes, so I'm curious if anyone has dealt with similar situations. We're not trying to do anything sketchy, just understand our options since we legitimately live in a different state with no income tax.

I've been following this thread with great interest since I'm in a nearly identical situation! My husband works for a state university in what sounds like your "High Tax State" while we live in Nevada. We've been maxing out his 403(b) and 457(b) plans for years. After reading all these responses, I decided to do some digging into our specific state's tax code, and I found some concerning language about "retirement income derived from state employment" that seems to suggest they might try to tax distributions even after we're no longer residents. The language is pretty vague though, which makes it hard to know for sure. What really caught my attention was @Ruby Blake's comment about "source rules" - I think this might be the key issue we all need to research for our specific states. It sounds like some states are trying to claim that government employment creates a permanent "source" connection that survives even after rollover to an IRA. Has anyone actually spoken directly to their state tax department about this? I'm tempted to call and ask hypothetical questions, but I'm also worried about putting myself on their radar unnecessarily. The tools mentioned in this thread (taxr.ai and Claimyr) are starting to look more appealing as ways to get concrete answers without directly engaging with the tax authorities myself. This is definitely one of those situations where the peace of mind from professional advice seems worth the cost!

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@Grace Patel I completely understand your hesitation about calling the state tax department directly! I was in the same boat - wanting answers but not wanting to wave a red flag. I actually ended up using both tools mentioned in this thread. First, I tried taxr.ai with my husband s'403 b(and) 457 b(plan) documents along with our state s'tax regulations. It was really helpful because it identified specific language in our state s'code that I had missed - apparently there s'a distinction between state "employee retirement systems and" rolled-over "retirement accounts that" could work in our favor. The AI analysis also suggested some specific documentation we should maintain to strengthen our case that the rollover truly severs the state connection. Things like getting written confirmation from the plan administrator about the rollover process and keeping records showing we have no other ties to the state. Then I used Claimyr to actually speak with someone at our state tax office. I was nervous about it, but I framed it as general questions about retirement planning for someone considering "moving" out of state. The agent was actually quite helpful and confirmed that rolled-over accounts are generally treated differently from direct pension distributions. Both tools together gave me way more confidence in our strategy than trying to interpret the tax code myself. The combination of detailed document analysis plus real human guidance from the actual tax office was exactly what I needed. Worth every penny for the peace of mind!

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This is such a timely thread for me! I'm a federal employee with a TSP account and we're considering relocating from Maryland to Texas in the next few years. While TSP is federal rather than state-level like your wife's 457, I've been wondering about similar residency issues. One thing I wanted to add based on my research - it might be worth checking if your High Tax State has any reciprocity agreements with your no-income-tax state. Sometimes these agreements can affect how retirement income is treated, even after rollover. Also, I noticed several people mentioned keeping detailed records of residency. My tax preparer recommended creating what he calls a "residency file" - basically a folder with copies of everything that proves your connection to your new state (utility bills, bank statements showing local address, voter registration, etc.) dated from the time you establish residency. He said it's much easier to compile this documentation as you go rather than trying to reconstruct it later if questions arise. The tools mentioned here (taxr.ai and Claimyr) sound really helpful for getting specific guidance. I think I'm going to try the document analysis route first to understand the federal TSP implications, then maybe use the calling service if I need to speak with someone at Maryland's tax office about any state-specific issues. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - this kind of real-world insight is exactly what you can't get from generic tax advice online!

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Can I claim my grandma as dependent on my taxes when she receives both SSI and SSDI?

I'm really stressed out trying to figure out my tax situation this year. My grandmother moved in with me about 10 months ago after her health declined. I'm covering more than half of her living expenses (rent, utilities, groceries, etc.) and also drive her to all her medical appointments. She receives both SSI and SSDI payments each month, totaling about $1,450. She doesn't have any other income. I'm wondering if I can claim her as a dependent on my tax return since I'm supporting her? I've heard mixed things about whether her SSI/SSDI counts as income for dependency tests. I make around $58,000 per year as a full-time administrative assistant. I'm trying to maximize my refund since caring for grandma has definitely increased my expenses this year. Any advice on whether I can claim her would be super helpful! I'm planning to file soon and this is the last thing I need to figure out.

Quick tip from someone who went through an audit on this exact issue: keep DETAILED records of all expenses you pay for your grandmother. The IRS wanted documentation showing I provided more than 50% support. Save receipts for rent/mortgage, utilities, groceries, medical expenses, etc. Calculate the total cost of support and what portion you paid vs. what came from her benefits.

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Did you have to go into an IRS office or was it handled by mail? I'm terrified of audits.

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Based on your situation, you'll need to determine the exact breakdown between your grandmother's SSI and SSDI payments to know if you can claim her as a dependent. The critical factor is whether her SSDI portion exceeds $4,700 annually - SSI doesn't count toward the gross income test, but SSDI does. Since she receives $1,450 monthly ($17,400 total), if most of that is SSDI, you likely won't be able to claim her as a dependent even though you're providing excellent care and support. However, if the SSDI portion is under $4,700 and you're truly providing more than half her total support, you may qualify. You'll want to get her Social Security benefit statement that shows the exact breakdown. This will be crucial for accurate filing and protecting yourself in case of any future IRS questions. The other dependency tests (relationship, residency) sound like they're clearly met in your case. I'd recommend getting professional guidance given the complexity of mixed SSI/SSDI situations, especially since this could significantly impact your refund amount.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with a similar situation with my elderly uncle who gets both types of benefits. The part about getting the Social Security benefit statement showing the exact breakdown is crucial - I didn't realize there was an official document that separates SSI from SSDI amounts. Do you happen to know if there's a specific form number for that benefit statement, or do you just call SSA and request a "benefit breakdown"? I want to make sure I ask for the right thing when I contact them. Also, when you mention getting professional guidance - are you thinking of a CPA or would something like the VITA tax preparation program be sufficient for this type of question?

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For the Social Security benefit statement, you'll want to request a "Benefits Verification Letter" (also called a "Benefit and Payment Details" letter). This is an official SSA document that shows exactly how much you receive in each type of benefit. You can request it online through your my Social Security account at ssa.gov, by phone, or in person at a local SSA office. The letter will break down SSDI and SSI separately, which is exactly what you need for tax purposes. It typically takes 10-15 business days if requested by mail, but you can often get it faster online or by phone. For professional guidance, a CPA would definitely be ideal since this involves some nuanced dependency rules. VITA programs are great for basic returns, but the volunteers might not have deep experience with complex SSI/SSDI dependency situations. If cost is a concern, many CPAs offer reasonable rates for consultations on specific questions like this - it might be worth a call to get clarity before filing.

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