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Something to consider - if the money is specifically for tuition, your mom could pay your school directly instead of sending it through Venmo. Direct payments to educational institutions for tuition aren't subject to gift tax limits at all! This would bypass the whole Venmo reporting issue completely.
This is actually really smart advice! I did this with my parents when I was in school. If they pay the institution directly, it doesn't count against the annual gift limit AND avoids the payment app reporting problem entirely.
Just to add some reassurance - I work in tax preparation and see this situation constantly now that payment apps are issuing 1099-Ks. The key thing to remember is that receiving a 1099-K doesn't automatically create a tax liability. It's just an information document. When you file your return, you'll report your actual taxable income. Gifts aren't taxable to the recipient, so they don't get included. If there's a discrepancy between your 1099-K and your reported income, that's totally normal and expected. The IRS knows that 1099-Ks include non-taxable transactions like gifts, personal reimbursements, etc. Keep simple records (like those text messages mentioning it's for school) and don't stress about it. This is way more common than you think, and the IRS has guidance specifically addressing these payment app situations. You're not doing anything wrong by receiving help from your mom!
I'm an accounting student so take this with a grain of salt, but I believe there's another consideration with AAA accounts - if you have other accounts like OAA or PTI, the interaction between them gets complicated with losses. I think the ordering rules matter for how losses are applied. Anyone know more about this?
Thanks for bringing this up! My S-Corp is pretty straightforward and doesn't have those other accounts yet, but it's good to know about this complexity for the future. Does QuickBooks track these different accounts automatically or is this something you need to manually keep records of?
QuickBooks doesn't automatically track AAA, OAA, or PTI accounts properly in my experience. You really need to set up separate ledger accounts and maintain them manually or with specialized S-Corp tax software. Regular accounting software just isn't designed to handle these tax-specific tracking accounts.
I made the mistake of ignoring the AAA account on my S-Corp's first year return when we had a loss. The IRS sent back a notice asking for corrections. Definitely don't leave it blank! The agent I spoke with said it's a common oversight but can cause problems when you start having profits and want to take distributions. Better to do it right from the beginning.
Did they actually audit you for this or just send a correction notice? I've been doing my own 1120-S returns for three years and honestly have never filled out the AAA section... now I'm worried.
@Luca Ricci You should definitely start tracking your AAA properly! It wasn t'a full audit in my case - just a correction notice asking me to file an amended return with the AAA section completed. But the IRS agent warned me that consistently leaving it blank could trigger more scrutiny later, especially when you start taking distributions. The AAA account is required reporting for S-Corps, not optional. Even if you ve'been getting away with it for three years, it s'better to correct this going forward. You might want to consider amending your previous returns to include the AAA tracking, or at least make sure you start doing it correctly from this year forward.
I had a boss try this with me a few years back. Whatever you do, DON'T just ignore it. I ended up with a huge tax bill plus penalties later. The IRS eventually caught on because the business was depositing money into my account regularly but nothing was being reported. Your best bet is to start looking for another job ASAP. Any employer willing to dodge taxes is cutting corners in other ways too. Meanwhile, keep detailed records of everything - hours, payments, etc. Take photos of schedules if possible.
Thanks for this advice. I've definitely started keeping much better records now. Did you end up having to pay the employer portion of taxes too, or were you able to avoid that somehow?
I initially got stuck with the whole tax bill including the employer portion, which was painful. But after filing Form SS-8 (to determine I was actually an employee) and Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages), the IRS adjusted things and ultimately my former employer got hit with their share plus penalties. The process took about 8 months though, so be prepared for a wait. Definitely keep every bit of evidence you can - text messages about schedules, bank deposits, anything that proves you were an employee rather than an independent contractor.
Am I the only one thinking maybe just take the money and don't report it? Like if both you and your employer aren't reporting it, how would the IRS even know? Small cash businesses do this all the time...
Ok fine, but then how do you explain all these cash businesses that go years without getting caught? My uncle's been running his handyman business cash-only for like 15 years and never had an issue.
Your uncle might think he's never had issues, but the IRS often takes years to catch up with unreported income cases. They use data matching from bank records, third-party payments, and lifestyle analysis. Just because someone hasn't been audited yet doesn't mean they won't be - and when they are, the penalties and interest compound over time making it much worse. The difference here is that OP is an employee, not truly self-employed. Employee wage theft (which is essentially what this is) gets flagged much faster than independent contractor situations because there are more data points for the IRS to cross-reference.
Double check that you entered both account numbers correctly on your tax form. I had this exact problem last year and turned out I mistyped one digit in my second account number. The money got sent back to the IRS and then I had to wait for a paper check which took almost 2 months to get to me. Check your Form 8888 if you have a copy of your return!
This happened to my brother too! He transposed two numbers and his second portion of his refund never arrived. Had to wait forever for the IRS to figure it out and issue a check.
This is really common with split refunds! I've been splitting mine for the past 3 years and there's almost always a delay between the two deposits. The IRS processes them as separate transactions, so they don't hit your accounts at the same time. Since your transcript shows the full refund was issued, that's the important part - it means the IRS has sent both payments. The second one is probably just working its way through the banking system. Capital One can sometimes be slower than other banks to post ACH deposits. I'd give it until early next week before worrying. If it doesn't show up by Wednesday, call Capital One first to see if they have any pending deposits. They can usually see incoming transfers before they actually post to your account. If they don't see anything, then it would be worth calling the IRS to make sure there wasn't an issue with the account info. Don't stress too much - in my experience, the second deposit always shows up eventually, just not when you expect it to!
Sean Matthews
Something to consider about RMDs that surprised me: even though they're taxed as ordinary income, you still need to pay estimated taxes on them if your withholding won't cover your tax liability. I got hit with an underpayment penalty my first year of RMDs because I didn't realize this. Either have taxes withheld from the distribution or make quarterly estimated payments.
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Ali Anderson
β’What percentage do you have withheld from your RMDs? I'm trying to figure out the right amount so I don't withhold too much or too little.
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Sean Matthews
β’I have 20% withheld from my RMDs, which covers my federal tax liability with a bit of cushion. I'd rather get a small refund than worry about penalties. For state taxes, I have an additional 5% withheld since my state has a flat income tax rate. If you're in a state with variable tax rates or no income tax, you'd need to adjust accordingly.
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Zadie Patel
I just want to clarify something that might help - the formula for calculating your RMD is pretty straightforward. You take your IRA balance as of December 31 of the previous year and divide it by the life expectancy factor from the IRS tables. For example, if your IRA was worth $500,000 at the end of last year and your life expectancy factor is 25.5, your RMD would be $19,607.84.
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Rami Samuels
β’Thanks for explaining the calculation part! Can I take more than the required minimum if I want/need to? Or is there a maximum I shouldn't exceed?
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Mateo Rodriguez
β’You can absolutely take more than the required minimum - there's no maximum limit on how much you can withdraw from your traditional IRA each year. The RMD is just the minimum amount you MUST take to avoid penalties. Many people take exactly the RMD amount to minimize their current tax liability and preserve the tax-deferred growth for as long as possible. But others take larger distributions for various reasons - maybe they need more income, want to reduce future RMD amounts, or are trying to stay in a lower tax bracket before other income kicks in. Just remember that any amount you withdraw (whether it's the minimum or more) will be taxed as ordinary income, so factor that into your planning.
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