Can you carryover negative AGI to next year's taxes?
I'm currently working on amending my 2022 and 2023 tax returns, and I've run into a situation I'm not sure how to handle. After calculating everything for 2022, with the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion and alimony payments I made, I'm ending up with approximately -$33k AGI. My question is whether it's possible to somehow use this negative AGI from 2022 to offset some of my tax burden in 2023? I had a much better income year in 2023, and I'm facing a pretty hefty tax bill. It seems like there should be some way to utilize that negative income from the previous year, but I can't find clear information about whether this is allowed or how to do it properly on my amended returns. Has anyone dealt with this before or know if there's a way to carryover a negative AGI between tax years? Thanks for any help!
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Amelia Martinez
While you generally can't directly "carry over" a negative AGI to offset income in the following year, what you're looking at might be a Net Operating Loss (NOL) situation, which can sometimes be carried forward. For individuals, a negative AGI often results from business losses exceeding other income. If your negative AGI is from business losses (not just from the FEIE and alimony), you might have an NOL that could be carried forward. However, the FEIE itself doesn't create a loss you can carry forward - it simply excludes income from taxation. Alimony payments (for agreements executed before 2019) are above-the-line deductions that reduce AGI but don't typically create carryover opportunities on their own. The key is determining if you have actual losses from a business activity that exceed your other income.
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Ethan Clark
•Thanks for this explanation! I'm kinda in a similar boat. So if I understand right, just having a negative AGI doesn't automatically mean I can carry something forward? Does it matter what specifically caused the negative AGI? Also, if it IS business losses, how would you actually claim that on next year's return?
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Amelia Martinez
•Exactly right - just having a negative AGI doesn't automatically create a carryover opportunity. The source of that negative AGI is crucial. For an NOL that can be carried forward, it typically needs to come from business losses (like on Schedule C) or certain casualty/theft losses. The FEIE and alimony deductions don't create carryover losses even if they push your AGI negative. If you do have qualifying business losses creating an NOL, you'd complete Form 1045 or 1040X to calculate the NOL, then carry it forward to the next year where you'd report it on Schedule 1 as "Other Income" with the notation "NOL." The rules for NOLs changed significantly with tax law changes in recent years, so the specific treatment depends on which tax years you're dealing with.
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Mila Walker
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Logan Scott
•Does this actually work for amended returns? I've got a similar situation with foreign income from a couple years back and I'm worried about getting it wrong. How detailed is the analysis?
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Chloe Green
•I'm skeptical about AI tax tools. How does it handle complex situations like foreign tax credits alongside FEIE? My accountant charges a fortune but says these situations are too complicated for software.
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Mila Walker
•Yes, it definitely works for amended returns! I uploaded my original returns along with the documentation for the changes I wanted to make, and it analyzed everything together. The analysis breaks down each section of your return and highlights where amendments would affect other calculations - super helpful for seeing the ripple effects. For complex situations, it's actually really impressive. It handled my combination of FEIE, foreign housing exclusion, and foreign tax credits correctly - even identified that I was eligible for a partial credit I didn't know about. It's not just checking basic rules but seems to understand the interactions between different tax provisions. I was skeptical too, but it saved me way more than I expected.
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Chloe Green
I need to admit I was wrong about AI tax tools. After my skeptical comment earlier, I decided to give taxr.ai a try with my complicated expat tax situation. I'm honestly shocked at how well it worked. It correctly identified that my "negative AGI" situation wasn't actually eligible for carryover in my case, but it did find a business loss component that qualified as an NOL. The analysis explained exactly why the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion portion doesn't create carryover opportunities (since it's already a tax benefit), while providing the correct forms and calculations for the portion that did qualify. It even flagged an error my previous accountant made with the foreign housing exclusion calculation that I never would have caught. For anyone dealing with negative AGI situations involving foreign income, definitely worth checking out before filing amended returns.
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Lucas Adams
If you're trying to amend multiple years of returns with this negative AGI issue, you might want to talk to an actual IRS agent to confirm your approach before filing. I tried calling the IRS for three weeks straight about my foreign income situation and kept hitting dead ends until I found https://claimyr.com through a tax forum. They got me connected to an IRS agent in about 20 minutes when I had been trying for weeks. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c - basically they navigate the phone tree and wait on hold so you don't have to. The agent I spoke with clarified exactly how my NOL carryforward should be reported on my amended return and which forms were needed specifically for my situation.
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Harper Hill
•Wait, how is this even possible? I thought NOBODY could get through to the IRS these days. Does this service just keep calling until they get through? How much does it cost?
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Caden Nguyen
•Sounds like a scam to me. I highly doubt anyone has a "special way" to get through to the IRS. They probably just keep you on hold just like if you called yourself.
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Lucas Adams
•It works by using technology to navigate the IRS phone system and stay in the queue. They have a system that monitors the IRS phone lines and calls at optimal times, then when they get through, they connect you directly to the agent. It's not a "special access" thing - they're just handling the frustrating part of waiting on hold. They don't just keep you on hold - that's what makes it different. You only get called when an actual agent is on the line ready to talk to you. I was honestly shocked too, but my call came through in about 17 minutes when I had been trying unsuccessfully for weeks. I can't speak to cost since pricing might change, but for me it was worth every penny considering I needed to amend multiple years with complex foreign income issues.
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Caden Nguyen
I need to eat my words about Claimyr being a scam. After my skeptical comment, I was still stuck with questions about my negative AGI situation from some overseas contract work, so I decided to try it anyway. Surprisingly, it actually worked - they got me through to an IRS tax law specialist in about 35 minutes. The agent was able to confirm that in my specific situation, the negative AGI from my FEIE couldn't be carried forward, but I did have some business losses that qualified for NOL treatment. She walked me through exactly how to complete Form 1045 to calculate the carryforward amount and how to report it on my amended return. For complex tax situations involving multiple years and international income, speaking directly with the IRS saved me from making a costly mistake on my amendments. I'm impressed the service actually delivered what it promised.
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Avery Flores
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - if your negative AGI is partly from capital losses, remember you can carry forward up to $3,000 in capital losses each year. So while you can't carry forward the negative AGI itself, certain components of what created that negative AGI might have carryforward potential. In my case, I had a negative AGI year in 2021 that included some significant capital losses. While I couldn't carry forward the entire negative AGI, I've been carrying the capital loss forward at $3,000 per year which has helped reduce my tax burden.
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Zoe Gonzalez
•Do business losses and capital losses get treated differently for carryover purposes? I had both in one tax year and I'm confused about which forms to use for each type when amending.
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Avery Flores
•Yes, they're treated quite differently. Capital losses are carried forward using Schedule D and limited to $3,000 per year against ordinary income (with the remaining carried forward indefinitely). Business losses that create NOLs follow a different set of rules and typically use Form 1045 or 1040X for the calculation. Business NOLs can potentially offset more income in the carryforward year but are subject to different limitations. For tax years after 2017, business NOLs can only offset up to 80% of taxable income in the carryforward year.
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Ashley Adams
Watch out with amended returns and negative AGI situations! I tried to DIY this myself last year and ended up getting a notice from the IRS because I incorrectly tried to carry forward my entire negative AGI (which included FEIE). The IRS ended up disallowing my claimed carryforward and assessing additional tax plus interest. Make sure you're only carrying forward components that actually qualify - like business losses, not just the negative AGI that resulted from exclusions like FEIE.
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Alexis Robinson
•Did you end up getting hit with any penalties? I'm in a similar situation now and trying to figure out if I should just hire a pro to handle the amendments.
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Ryan Young
Just to add another perspective here - I went through something very similar with my 2021 and 2022 returns. Had a negative AGI in 2021 due to a combination of FEIE and some business losses from freelance work that dried up during COVID. The key thing I learned (after initially getting it wrong) is that you really need to break down what specifically created that negative AGI. In my case, about $18k of the negative was from legitimate business losses that could be carried forward as an NOL, but the rest was from the FEIE which doesn't create a carryover opportunity. I ended up having to file Form 1045 to properly calculate the NOL portion and then amended my following year's return to claim it correctly. The business loss carryforward definitely helped offset some of my 2022 income, but it was way less than I initially thought I could carry forward. If you're dealing with multiple components creating the negative AGI like I was, I'd strongly recommend getting professional help or at least double-checking your work before filing the amendments. The IRS doesn't mess around with incorrectly claimed carryforwards.
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Statiia Aarssizan
•This is really helpful Ryan! I'm dealing with a similar mix of FEIE and business losses creating my negative AGI. Can you clarify - when you filed Form 1045, did you have to wait for that to be processed before you could amend the following year's return? Or could you file both amendments at the same time? I'm trying to figure out the timing since I need to get both my 2022 and 2023 returns corrected.
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