IRS

CommunityGovernment Services

Can't reach IRS? Claimyr calls for you, so you don't have to wait on hold.

Claimyr is a pay-as-you-go service. We do not charge a recurring subscription.

Using Claimyr will:

  • Connect you to a human agent at the IRS
  • Skip the long phone menu
  • Call the correct department
  • Redial until on hold
  • Forward a call to your phone with reduced hold time
  • Give you free callbacks if the IRS drops your call
Fox KTVUABC 7CBSSan Francisco Chronicle


Ask the community...

  • DO post questions about your issues.
  • DO answer questions and support each other.
  • DO post tips & tricks to help folks.
  • DO NOT post call problems here - there is a support tab at the top for that :)

S-Corp Election for Real Estate Agent - Good Idea or IRS Red Flag?

I own a single-member LLC in Kansas that brings in commission income from my work as a real estate agent. My accountant is giving me pushback about electing S-Corp status because literally 100% of the business revenue comes from my personal services. No employees, no contractors, just me selling houses. The accountant claims the IRS scrutinizes "personal service businesses" differently and said it's risky because if I take distributions from the company, the IRS could potentially reclassify all of those as wages during an audit. Can I still be an S-Corp as the only income producer and pay myself a reasonable salary without getting into potential trouble with the IRS? My accountant mentioned the same concerns to my buddy who's a full-time Twitch streamer with an LLC. For context, my LLC's annual profit before any salary to myself is around $160k. I'm just trying to understand if S-Corp election makes sense for tax savings or if it's too risky in my situation as a real estate agent.

My husband and I are both real estate agents and we spent HOURS researching this S-Corp question. The one thing I wish someone had told us earlier is that the IRS has lost several court cases on this exact issue with real estate professionals. Look up "Watson, P.C. v. United States" - the court agreed that distributions were appropriate on top of a reasonable salary. The decision specifically says that not all income from a service business has to be treated as wages. That said, we pay ourselves about 60% as salary and take 40% as distributions, which our CPA has said is very defensible. It's all about being reasonable - don't pay yourself $30K and take $130K in distributions. That's asking for trouble.

0 coins

Thanks for mentioning that court case, I'll definitely look it up! Did you guys have any trouble with the initial S-Corp election paperwork? I've heard it can be a bit of a nightmare to get it all filed correctly.

0 coins

Your accountant's concerns are valid but perhaps a bit overly cautious. The IRS doesn't prohibit S-Corp elections for personal service businesses like real estate - they just scrutinize the salary vs. distribution split more closely. With $160k in profit, you'd likely want to pay yourself around $80-100k as W-2 wages (that 50-65% range others mentioned is spot on). The key is being able to justify that salary based on what similar real estate agents in your market earn. I've been an S-Corp real estate agent for 3 years now and it's saved me significant money on self-employment taxes. Just make sure you: 1. Set up proper payroll from day one 2. Document your salary research thoroughly 3. Keep detailed records of business expenses separate from personal 4. Consider the additional compliance costs (payroll service, extra accounting fees) The "personal services" scrutiny is real, but it's not a disqualification. The IRS just wants to make sure you're not gaming the system with an unreasonably low salary. If you can justify your compensation methodology, you should be fine.

0 coins

For documentation, I keep a file with salary surveys from NAR, Bureau of Labor Statistics data for my metro area, screenshots of job postings for experienced agents, and a written memo explaining my methodology. I also track my production metrics (number of transactions, average sale price, etc.) since compensation often correlates with performance in our industry. In three years, I've had zero issues with the IRS. No audits, no letters, nothing. I think the "scrutiny" concern is often overblown - as long as your salary isn't obviously unreasonable (like paying yourself 20% of profits), most agents fly under the radar. The IRS has bigger fish to fry than S-Corps paying legitimate salaries. That said, I'm religious about quarterly payroll and keeping business/personal expenses completely separate. The additional compliance burden is real, but the tax savings have been worth it for me. Just make sure you factor in all the extra costs Sofia mentioned earlier before making the jump.

0 coins

Great questions! For documentation, I keep a folder with: salary data from BLS.gov for our metro area, NAR compensation reports, screenshots of job postings for similar positions, and a simple memo I write each year explaining my methodology. Nothing fancy - just enough to show I did actual research rather than picking a number out of thin air. As for IRS scrutiny - I haven't been audited (knock on wood), but I know two other agent S-Corps in my area who were. Both sailed through because they had reasonable salaries (around 55-60% of profits) and could document their reasoning. The IRS seems more interested in the obvious abusers - like people paying themselves $20k on $150k of profit. One tip: I update my salary annually based on my previous year's performance and current market data. Shows I'm not just setting it once and forgetting about it. The IRS likes to see that you're treating the salary determination as an ongoing business decision, not a tax avoidance scheme.

0 coins

Understanding Non-dividend Distributions on my tax return - what am I missing?

I've hit a roadblock while trying to file my taxes online and I'm totally confused. I keep getting this notification about "Non-dividend Distributions" and I have no idea what to do with it. From what I understand, I received some money from my investments that isn't considered a dividend, but the tax software is asking me for information I don't know how to provide. I own shares in a few different companies, and apparently one of them made some kind of distribution that falls into this category. The notification is telling me I need to report this differently than regular dividends, but I'm not sure how to classify it or what form it should be on. Has anyone dealt with Non-dividend Distributions before? I've been filing my own taxes for years but this is the first time I've encountered this. I'm worried about getting it wrong and facing penalties. Should I be reducing my cost basis? Does this affect my current tax liability? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with my first non-dividend distribution situation and was completely lost until reading everyone's experiences here. One thing I wanted to add that might help others - if you're using a discount brokerage like Schwab or Fidelity, they often have tax centers on their websites with calculators specifically for tracking basis adjustments from non-dividend distributions. I found Schwab's "Cost Basis Tracking" tool really useful for understanding how my distributions would affect future capital gains calculations. Also, for anyone still struggling with where to find this information in their tax software, look for sections labeled "Return of Capital" or "Box 3 distributions" rather than just searching for "non-dividend distributions." Different tax programs use slightly different terminology, which was confusing me initially. Thanks especially to @Emily Nguyen-Smith for the clear explanation about cost basis reduction - that finally made it click for me! And @Sophia Rodriguez, I'm definitely going to check out that taxr.ai tool you mentioned since I have some other complex investment situations this year.

0 coins

@Camila Castillo You re'absolutely right about the different terminology being confusing! I ran into the same issue when I was trying to figure this out for the first time. Return "of Capital is" definitely the key phrase to search for in most tax software. One additional tip I discovered - if you have multiple brokerage accounts, make sure you re'getting the full picture of your non-dividend distributions across all of them. I was only looking at my main account and almost missed a smaller distribution from shares I held at a different broker. It would have thrown off my basis calculations completely. Also, don t'forget that some companies send supplemental statements separate from the 1099-DIV that provide more detailed breakdowns of their distributions. These can be really helpful for understanding exactly what type of distribution you received, especially if the company had multiple distribution events during the year.

0 coins

This discussion has been so enlightening! I'm actually an enrolled agent who helps clients with these exact issues, and I wanted to add a few professional insights that might help others navigating non-dividend distributions. One thing I see clients struggle with is understanding that non-dividend distributions can actually be beneficial from a tax planning perspective. While they reduce your cost basis, they essentially allow you to receive money from your investment without immediate tax consequences (until you sell or your basis hits zero). This can be particularly advantageous if you're in a higher tax bracket now but expect to be in a lower bracket when you eventually sell. For those tracking basis adjustments, I always recommend keeping copies of all broker statements that show the distributions, not just the tax forms. Sometimes the 1099-DIV doesn't provide enough detail, and broker statements often include helpful explanations of the distribution type and company rationale. Also, if anyone is dealing with foreign investments or ADRs (American Depositary Receipts), the rules can be different and more complex. These might require additional forms like 8938 or FBAR depending on the amounts involved. The tools and services mentioned in this thread like taxr.ai and claimyr sound helpful for getting proper guidance when you need it!

0 coins

@Zainab Ahmed That s'a really thoughtful question! From an investment perspective, I wouldn t'necessarily seek out or avoid investments based solely on their tendency to make non-dividend distributions. What s'more important is understanding the overall investment strategy and tax implications. Some sectors like REITs, MLPs, and certain utility companies are more likely to make these distributions due to their business structures and cash flow patterns. These can be excellent investments, but you want to make sure you re'prepared for the additional tax complexity. My recommendation for newer investors is to start with a solid understanding of the tax implications before diving into more complex investment vehicles. Begin with straightforward dividend-paying stocks or broad market index funds, then gradually add investments with non-dividend distributions as you become more comfortable with tracking basis adjustments and the associated tax reporting. The key is having good record-keeping systems in place from the start - like the spreadsheet approach @Ellie Lopez mentioned. Once you have that foundation, you can confidently invest in opportunities that might involve non-dividend distributions without worrying about tax season surprises. Also consider working with a tax professional for your first year dealing with these distributions, especially if you re'investing significant amounts. The upfront cost can save you much more in the long run by avoiding costly mistakes.

0 coins

@Zainab Ahmed That s'an excellent question! From a portfolio building perspective, I generally don t'recommend specifically seeking out or avoiding investments based solely on whether they make non-dividend distributions. The underlying quality and performance of the investment should be your primary consideration. That said, understanding the tax implications can help you make more informed decisions about asset location which (accounts to hold different investments in and) timing of sales. For example, investments that frequently make non-dividend distributions might be better suited for tax-advantaged accounts like IRAs where the basis tracking complexity is eliminated. Some sectors like REITs, MLPs, and certain utility stocks are more likely to have non-dividend distributions, but they might still be valuable components of a diversified portfolio. The key is being prepared to handle the tax reporting properly rather than avoiding potentially good investments. I d'recommend focusing on building a solid, diversified portfolio first, then learning to manage the tax complexities that come with it. The tools and resources mentioned in this thread can really help with that learning process!

0 coins

Will getting my home appraised trigger higher property taxes?

Just wondering about this scenario - if I found a really dilapidated old mansion for around $250k and invested time and money fixing it up, then had it appraised at like $2.5 million, would my property taxes suddenly skyrocket? I'm trying to understand how property tax assessments work with major home improvements. Do tax assessors automatically know when you've had an appraisal done or is that completely separate from the tax assessment process? This seems like it could make or break whether a major fixer-upper project would be financially sustainable long-term.

In my experience, the biggest property tax jump happens when you buy the property, not when you renovate. Many states reassess at sale price. So if you buy that mansion for $250k, your initial taxes might be based on that amount, then gradually increase as you improve it. Every jurisdiction has different rules though.

0 coins

This is true in California with Prop 13! My parents' house is assessed WAY below market value because they've owned it for 30 years. Their neighbors with identical houses pay 3x the property tax because they bought recently.

0 coins

Great thread! As someone who went through a similar situation, I'd add that timing is everything with major renovations and property taxes. One strategy that worked for me was doing improvements in phases over multiple years rather than all at once. This helped spread out the tax impact since many counties reassess based on completed work rather than work in progress. Also worth noting - some areas have "circuit breaker" programs that cap property tax increases for existing homeowners, especially if you're on a fixed income. And if you're doing historic renovation, definitely look into state and federal historic tax credits - they can be substantial and sometimes stackable with local exemptions. The key is researching your specific county's rules BEFORE you start work. Every jurisdiction handles this differently, and what works in one place might not apply 20 miles away.

0 coins

Great questions! For "completed work" vs "work in progress," assessors typically look at whether a space is functional and adds value. So yes, a finished kitchen would likely be assessed even if bathrooms aren't done yet. They usually assess based on permits marked as "finaled" or completed inspections. For circuit breaker programs, try searching your county website for terms like "property tax relief," "homeowner assistance," or "tax cap programs." Many counties don't advertise these well! Also check with your state's Department of Revenue - they often have lists of local programs. Some are income-based, others are age-based, and some just cap annual increases for existing homeowners regardless of income. Pro tip: Call your county assessor's office directly and ask what relief programs they offer. Many have programs they don't publicize but will tell you about if you ask specifically.

0 coins

Great questions! For "completed work" vs "work in progress," it typically depends on whether you've gotten a certificate of occupancy or final inspection approval for that specific area. So yes, if you finish the kitchen completely (passed final inspection) but bathrooms are still under construction, most counties would only assess the completed kitchen value in that tax year. For circuit breaker programs, try searching your county website for terms like "property tax relief," "tax freeze," or "assessment cap." Also check your state's Department of Revenue website - they often list county-by-county programs. If you still can't find info, this might be a perfect case for using one of those services like Claimyr that @Connor Gallagher mentioned to actually get someone on the phone at your assessor's office who can tell you what programs exist. Another tip: many counties publish their assessment calendars showing when they do their drive-by evaluations. Timing major exterior work (like roofing, siding) right after their annual assessment can buy you almost a full year before the improvements get factored into your taxes.

0 coins

Received a 2800c letter from the IRS and freaking out - what does this mean??

I just got a letter in the mail from the IRS and I'm kinda panicking. I think it's called a 2800c form or notice. Has anyone dealt with this before? The letter says they need more information to process my tax return and verify my income. They're questioning some of the income I reported, specifically about my W-2 from my part-time job where I made around $18,500 last year. The letter mentions something about "income verification" and they want me to send in documentation within 30 days. I filed back in February using TurboTax and thought everything was good to go. I was expecting a refund of about $1,120 and now I'm worried I won't get it. Do I need to be concerned? Is this just routine or am I in trouble? I've never gotten anything like this before and don't know what to do next. Should I call them? Send documents? Get professional help?

Has anyone actually had this type of issue resolved quickly? I responded to my 2800C about 8 weeks ago with all requested documents and still haven't heard anything. My "Where's My Refund" status hasn't changed at all.

0 coins

In my experience (tax preparer), these verification issues typically take 6-12 weeks to resolve AFTER they receive your documentation. The IRS is still dealing with major backlogs. If it's been more than 12 weeks, I'd recommend calling to check status.

0 coins

Don't panic! The 2800C notice is actually one of the more routine IRS letters you can receive. It's essentially their way of saying "we need to double-check something before we process your refund." A few key things to keep in mind: 1. **Respond promptly** - You have 30 days, but don't wait until the last minute 2. **Send copies, never originals** - Make copies of your W-2 and any other requested documents 3. **Include the notice** - Always send a copy of the 2800C letter with your response 4. **Use trackable mail** - Certified mail with return receipt is worth the extra cost 5. **Keep everything** - Make copies of what you send for your records The income verification request is likely because there's a slight discrepancy between what you reported and what your employer reported to the IRS, or it could just be a random audit check. Either way, as long as your W-2 information is accurate (which it sounds like it is), you should be fine. Your refund will be delayed until this is resolved, but you're not "in trouble" - this is just part of their verification process. Stay calm and follow the instructions in the letter!

0 coins

Why does the QBI deduction seem pointless for my small business taxes?

I'm working through our 2024 taxes using TurboTax and noticed my husband's freelance photography business apparently qualifies for the QBI (qualified business income) deduction. I understand it's supposed to be a below the line deduction for self-employment income, but here's what's confusing me - after I selected it, our refund amount didn't change at all? Like literally zero difference. Can someone explain what the actual point of the QBI deduction is if it doesn't seem to affect our bottom line? I'm completely baffled by this. One theory I have is that maybe TurboTax was already calculating this in the background before I even got to that section? Has anyone else experienced this with the qualified business income deduction? This tax stuff makes my head hurt!

Can someone explain if the QBI deduction works for a single-member LLC taxed as a sole proprietorship? I make custom furniture and reported about $62,000 in profit on Schedule C. My tax guy mentioned QBI but I don't understand if I'm actually getting it or how much it should be.

0 coins

Yes, the QBI deduction absolutely applies to single-member LLCs taxed as sole proprietorships! Your business structure is perfect for this deduction. With $62,000 in profit reported on Schedule C, you should generally qualify for a QBI deduction of around $12,400 (20% of your profit). This deduction reduces your taxable income, not your tax directly. So if you're in the 22% tax bracket, this could save you approximately $2,728 in federal taxes. You can verify this by looking at your Form 1040, page 2, line 13. That's where the QBI deduction amount should appear on your tax return.

0 coins

I had the exact same confusion with my graphic design business last year! The QBI deduction was actually working perfectly, but TurboTax's interface made it seem like nothing was happening. What's likely occurring is that TurboTax calculates your potential QBI deduction as soon as you enter your Schedule C information. So when you get to the specific QBI section later in the process, you're just confirming something that's already been factored into your refund calculation. Think of it this way - if your husband's photography business had $50k in qualified business income, you could potentially deduct $10k (20% of $50k) from your taxable income. But TurboTax probably already included this benefit in your running refund total based on the business income you entered earlier. To verify this is working correctly, look for Form 8995 or 8995-A in your tax documents when you're done. That's where the QBI calculation actually appears, and you should see the 20% deduction amount listed there. The QBI deduction is definitely valuable - it can save hundreds or thousands in taxes depending on your business income and tax bracket. It just doesn't show up as a dramatic "refund jump" because good tax software anticipates it!

0 coins

Prev1...10571058105910601061...5645Next