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Don't forget the deadline to establish a Solo 401k is December 31 of the tax year, even though you can actually fund it later (employee contributions by tax filing, employer contributions by business tax deadline)! I missed this subtlety last year and lost out on significant tax savings. Also, for the record, my CPA confirmed that with a partnership LLC, both spouses can have separate Solo 401ks as long as they're both partners in the business, but you need to be careful with the specific plan documents.

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Liam Cortez

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Do you need separate EINs for each Solo 401k plan or can both use the partnership's EIN? And where did you set yours up? I'm looking at Vanguard but heard they're limited.

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You can use the same partnership EIN for both Solo 401k plans since they're both tied to the same business entity. Each spouse will have their own separate account, but they can share the business EIN. Regarding Vanguard - they do have some limitations compared to Fidelity or Schwab. Vanguard's Solo 401k doesn't allow loans or hardship withdrawals, and their investment options are primarily their own funds (though they're excellent low-cost options). If you want maximum flexibility, Fidelity might be better, but if you're happy with Vanguard's fund selection and want to keep everything in one place, it's still a solid choice. The setup process is pretty straightforward with any of the major providers - just make sure you have your partnership agreement and EIN ready when you apply.

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This is a complex situation that requires careful planning! I've been through something similar with my spouse and our consulting business. One key point that hasn't been fully addressed: when you have a partnership LLC, the income flows through to you as distributive shares reported on Schedule K-1, which is treated as self-employment income for retirement contribution purposes. This is different from W-2 wages or 1099 consulting income in how the contribution limits are calculated. For your husband's situation specifically - since he already maxes out his employee contribution at his day job, he can only make employer contributions through the LLC based on his share of the partnership's net earnings from self-employment. The 20% calculation applies to his net earnings after the self-employment tax deduction. Also worth noting: make sure your partnership agreement clearly defines each partner's role and compensation if you're both setting up Solo 401ks. The IRS will want to see that the contributions are reasonable based on actual services provided to the business. I'd strongly recommend getting a fee-only financial advisor who specializes in small business retirement planning to review your specific numbers before making final decisions. The interaction between partnership income, outside consulting, and existing employer plans can get tricky fast.

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Mason Stone

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This is really helpful clarification on the K-1 vs other income types! I'm curious about the partnership agreement aspect you mentioned - do we need to formally document compensation/roles even if we're just a husband-wife partnership? Our LLC operating agreement is pretty basic and doesn't specify individual compensation structures. Should we be worried about IRS scrutiny on this, or is it more about having reasonable documentation if questioned?

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GalaxyGazer

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Great question! I went through this exact situation last year and learned a lot about how survey income works with taxes. Here's what I discovered: The key thing to understand is that survey rewards ARE taxable income regardless of whether you receive any tax forms. The $400-500 you earned definitely needs to be reported on your tax return. For the 1099-K specifically - PayPal will only send you one if your total payments received through their platform exceed $600 for the tax year (this is the current threshold). If you're under that amount, you won't get a 1099-K, but you still need to report the income. Since you're doing surveys occasionally rather than as a regular business, this income should typically be reported as "Other Income" on Schedule 1 of your Form 1040, not as self-employment income. This is important because it means you won't owe self-employment tax on it, which saves you about 15.3%. Make sure to keep records of all your survey payments - PayPal should have a transaction history you can download. Even without receiving tax forms from the survey companies, you're responsible for reporting the income accurately. The IRS considers survey participation as being paid for your time and opinions, which makes it taxable income even though you're not technically an employee of these companies.

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'm new to dealing with any kind of side income and was totally confused about the whole 1099-K vs other forms situation. One follow-up question - if I made around $450 through PayPal surveys last year, should I still expect to receive a 1099-K from them, or would I definitely be under the threshold? I want to make sure I'm not missing any forms I should have received before I file.

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At $450, you should definitely be under the $600 threshold, so you wouldn't receive a 1099-K from PayPal for that amount. The good news is this makes your situation pretty straightforward - you'll just report the $450 as "Other Income" on Schedule 1 without needing to worry about matching it to any tax forms. Just double-check your PayPal account to make sure that $450 represents your total payments received through their platform for the entire tax year, not just survey income. If you received any other payments through PayPal (like selling items, freelance work, etc.), those would count toward the $600 threshold too. Since you won't have a 1099-K, keeping your own records of the survey payments is extra important in case the IRS ever has questions about your reported income.

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Yara Sayegh

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Adding to what others have said about the 1099-K threshold and reporting requirements - one important thing to keep in mind is that the IRS has been pretty clear that ALL income is taxable, regardless of whether you receive tax forms or not. For your $400-500 in survey income, you're definitely required to report it even without a 1099-K. The good news is that since this sounds like occasional survey participation rather than a regular business activity, you should be able to report it as "Other Income" on Schedule 1, which means you'll avoid the 15.3% self-employment tax. I'd recommend downloading your complete PayPal transaction history for the tax year to get an exact total of all payments you received. This will serve as your documentation since you likely won't receive any tax forms from the survey companies themselves. One tip that helped me: when reporting this on Schedule 1, I wrote something like "Survey rewards - various companies via PayPal" in the description field. This makes it clear what the income was if the IRS ever has questions, and shows you're being transparent about the source. The key is just making sure you report the full amount accurately, even though the process might seem confusing without receiving official tax forms.

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Liam McGuire

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This is exactly the kind of clear guidance I was looking for! I really appreciate you mentioning the description field tip - I hadn't thought about how to actually label this income when I file, and "Survey rewards - various companies via PayPal" sounds perfect and transparent. One thing I'm still wondering about - when you say to download the complete PayPal transaction history, should I be looking for any specific information in those records? Like, do I need to separate out which payments were definitely from survey companies versus other sources, or is the total amount received the main thing that matters for tax purposes? I want to make sure I have everything organized properly before I start my return.

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I own several rental properties and have dealt with this exact issue. One thing to consider: if your AGI is under $100k, you can deduct up to $25k in rental losses against your ordinary income under the active participation exception, even though the activity is technically passive. But if you're trying to qualify as a real estate professional to treat ALL losses as non-passive, be prepared for potential IRS scrutiny. You need meticulous time logs to prove your 750+ hours.

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Do you actually log your hours? How detailed do the records need to be? I've been using a simple spreadsheet but wondering if that's enough if I get audited.

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Caleb Bell

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A spreadsheet should be fine as long as it's detailed enough. The IRS typically wants to see the date, hours worked, and description of activities performed. I use a simple Excel sheet with columns for Date, Property Address, Hours, and Activity Description (like "tenant screening," "property inspection," "coordinating repairs," etc.). The key is consistency and contemporaneous record-keeping - don't try to recreate logs after the fact if you get audited. Also make sure your activities actually qualify as real estate business activities under the IRS definition, not just property maintenance that any homeowner would do.

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I've been through this exact situation with my duplex rental. The key thing to understand is that rental real estate is almost always classified as passive income/loss by default, regardless of how hands-on you are with management. However, you likely qualify for the "active participation" exception since you're making management decisions yourself. This allows you to deduct up to $25,000 of rental losses against your other income (like your regular job) if your modified adjusted gross income is under $100,000. The deduction phases out between $100k-$150k. Don't confuse "active participation" with being a "real estate professional" - they're completely different rules. Active participation just means you own at least 10% of the property and participate in management decisions (which you clearly do). The real estate professional status requires 750+ hours annually in real estate activities AND more than half your total working time. For your situation, being able to use the $25k exception now is probably better than waiting until you sell, especially if you're in a higher tax bracket currently. Just make sure to keep good records of your participation in case the IRS ever asks.

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This is really helpful - I think I was getting confused between active participation and real estate professional status. So just to confirm my understanding: even though my rental activity is technically "passive," I can still deduct losses against my W-2 income up to $25k as long as I meet the active participation test and my income is under the threshold? Also, you mentioned keeping good records of participation - what kind of documentation should I be maintaining? I do everything from tenant screening to coordinating repairs, but I haven't been formally tracking my involvement.

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Anyone know if there's a way to check how many times I've claimed AOTC in the past? I honestly can't remember if I've used it for 3 or 4 years during my undergrad.

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You can look at your previous tax returns! Check Form 8863 from prior years. If you don't have copies, you can request your tax transcripts from the IRS website. Go to irs.gov and search for "Get Transcript" - you can get them online pretty quickly if you set up an account.

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I went through this exact same situation last year! The key thing to understand about Form 8863 Line 19 is that it's essentially a checkbox certification where you confirm you haven't exceeded the 4-year lifetime limit for AOTC. Since you mentioned you're 24 and in post-bacc studies, the critical question is how many years you've already claimed AOTC during undergrad. If it's 3 or fewer years, you can still claim AOTC for this year, which would typically give you a better credit than Lifetime Learning. Here's what helped me figure it out: I pulled my tax transcripts from the IRS website (irs.gov - search "Get Transcript") to see exactly how many years I'd claimed AOTC. Turns out I'd only used it twice, so I was eligible for AOTC even as a post-bacc student. For Line 19 specifically, if you've claimed AOTC for 3 or fewer prior years, you'd check "No" to the question about claiming it for more than 4 years. This confirms you're still within the lifetime limit and can claim it this year. The income limits and qualified expenses requirements still apply, but TurboTax should help you navigate those once you get past the Line 19 confusion!

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Jamal Brown

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This is really helpful, thank you! I didn't know you could get tax transcripts online so easily. I'm definitely going to check that to see exactly how many years I've used AOTC. The checkbox explanation for Line 19 makes so much more sense now - I was overthinking it. If I've only used it for 2-3 years during undergrad, it sounds like I should still be able to claim the better credit this year even though I'm in post-bacc. Really appreciate the step-by-step breakdown!

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Myles Regis

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Has anyone used something like Coinbase Commerce for handling the actual transaction? We're getting ready to accept Bitcoin for an equity stake and trying to figure out the most secure way to receive it while maintaining proper documentation for tax purposes.

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Brian Downey

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We used a dedicated business wallet with BitPay for our crypto equity transaction last year. The advantage was it automatically generated receipts with USD value at time of transfer, which was super helpful for tax documentation. Whatever you use, make sure it gives you clear timestamp and valuation data!

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Alana Willis

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Just went through this exact scenario with our SaaS startup a few months ago! One crucial thing I learned that hasn't been mentioned yet - make sure your operating agreement specifically addresses crypto contributions before accepting the Bitcoin. We had to amend ours because the standard language about "cash or cash equivalents" created ambiguity about whether Bitcoin qualified. Also, beyond the tax implications everyone's discussing, consider the volatility risk. We ended up converting the Bitcoin to USD within 48 hours of receiving it because we couldn't afford to have our working capital fluctuate wildly. Document everything with multiple timestamps - when you receive it, the market value at receipt, and when you convert to USD. This creates a clear paper trail for both tax purposes and investor relations. The IRS guidance on this is actually pretty clear once you dig into it - Rev. Rul. 2014-21 covers the basics, though it doesn't specifically address capital contributions to partnerships/LLCs. Your basis in the Bitcoin is indeed the fair market value when contributed, so you're only taxed on appreciation from that point forward.

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for mentioning Rev. Rul. 2014-21! I've been searching for specific IRS guidance on this situation. The operating agreement amendment point is something I hadn't considered at all. Quick question about the 48-hour conversion window - did you face any pushback from your investor about converting so quickly? I'm wondering if there's a way to structure it where we can hold for slightly longer to potentially qualify for long-term capital gains treatment without taking on too much volatility risk. Maybe some kind of gradual conversion schedule? Also, when you amended your operating agreement, did you need to get formal valuations or appraisals of the Bitcoin contribution, or was documenting the market price from exchanges sufficient for your purposes?

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NeonNebula

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Great question about the conversion timing! Our investor was actually fine with the quick conversion because we were upfront about it during negotiations - we explained that as a startup, we needed predictable working capital and couldn't afford the volatility risk. We structured it as "Bitcoin contribution converted to USD within 2 business days" right in the equity agreement. Regarding gradual conversion, that's definitely possible but adds complexity. You'd need to track the basis and holding period for each separate conversion, which could be a bookkeeping nightmare. If you do go that route, make sure your accounting system can handle multiple Bitcoin "lots" with different acquisition dates. For the operating agreement amendment, we didn't need formal appraisals - documenting market price from major exchanges (we used Coinbase, Kraken, and Binance timestamps) was sufficient. Our attorney recommended getting at least two exchange prices at the time of transfer to show we used reasonable market data. The key is having contemporaneous documentation that you can defend in an audit. One thing I'd add - consider having your investor handle the actual Bitcoin-to-USD conversion and just contribute cash. It simplifies everything tax-wise and removes the volatility risk from your company entirely. The investor takes on the conversion timing decision, and you get clean cash for equity.

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