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Monique Byrd

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm dealing with a very similar situation where my girlfriend and I split all our housing costs 50/50, but everything's in my name due to her credit history. She sends me $1,200 monthly through Venmo for her half of mortgage, insurance, and utilities. Reading through everyone's experiences here has really put my mind at ease about the new payment app reporting rules. The distinction between personal expense sharing and business income makes perfect sense when explained clearly like @6a16f57c11b1 did. I'm definitely going to implement some of the documentation suggestions from @a6dd59e13835 and @c42dcc408bd5 - keeping a simple digital folder with screenshots of bills and payment records seems like the perfect balance of being prepared without going overboard. One thing I wanted to add for anyone else in this situation: my bank actually has a feature where I can set up automatic payments directly from my girlfriend's account to the mortgage company for her portion. We looked into this option, but decided the Venmo approach was simpler since we're already using it for other shared expenses. Good to know we have that backup option though if we ever want to eliminate any potential confusion. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences and solutions - this community is such a great resource for navigating these confusing tax situations!

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Welcome to the community @715a9786a701! Your situation sounds almost identical to what many of us have been dealing with, and it's great to see how this thread has helped clarify things for everyone. I love that you mentioned the automatic payment option from your bank - that's actually something I hadn't considered for my own situation. Even though Venmo works well for us too, it's good to know there are alternatives that might provide even clearer documentation of the expense-sharing arrangement. One thing I wanted to add based on my own experience: I found it helpful to have a brief conversation with my partner about how we describe these payments when we send them. We both use consistent descriptions like "mortgage + utilities April" so there's no ambiguity about what the payments are for. It's probably unnecessary, but it creates a clear pattern that shows these are household expense reimbursements. This community really has been fantastic for sorting through all the confusion around these new payment app rules. It's reassuring to know that so many people are in similar situations and that the consensus from everyone's research and professional consultations is that legitimate expense sharing isn't something to worry about!

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Luca Ferrari

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I'm in a nearly identical situation with my partner and our shared townhouse! He sends me $975 monthly through Venmo for his half of the mortgage and HOA fees. I was losing sleep over the new payment app rules until I did some deep research. What really helped me understand this was looking at the actual IRS Publication 525, which covers taxable income. It specifically states that money received from personal relationships for shared living expenses isn't considered income - it's cost sharing. The key is that you're not providing housing as a service or business, you're genuinely sharing the expenses of a home you both live in. I ended up creating a simple one-page agreement with my partner that outlines our arrangement - that we both consider ourselves co-owners despite the legal title, we both contributed to costs, and we're splitting ongoing expenses. I also keep a basic spreadsheet showing the actual mortgage payment and how we split it. The vacation reimbursement situation you mentioned is even more straightforward - that's just paying back money your friend spent on your behalf. The IRS sees millions of these transactions and they're clearly personal reimbursements, not taxable income. I think a lot of us are overthinking this because the new rules got so much media attention, but they're really designed to catch people running businesses through payment apps, not couples sharing household costs!

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Sofia Torres

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This is exactly the kind of detailed research and documentation I was looking for! @7b3c091871f8 Thank you for mentioning IRS Publication 525 - I'm definitely going to look that up to read the official guidance myself. The one-page agreement idea is brilliant. I think having something in writing that clearly establishes the intent and nature of our arrangement would give me so much peace of mind. Did you have a lawyer draft yours, or did you just write it yourselves? I'm wondering if there's specific language that's important to include. I'm also curious about your spreadsheet approach - do you track just the mortgage payment split, or do you include other shared expenses like utilities and insurance too? I'm trying to figure out the right level of detail to maintain without making it overly complicated. It's such a relief to see so many people in this community sharing similar experiences and practical solutions. The media coverage really did make this seem scarier than it actually is for legitimate personal expense sharing situations!

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Has anyone used FreeTaxUSA for reporting Twitch income? TurboTax keeps trying to charge me for the self-employment version even though I just need to file a Schedule E for royalties.

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Andre Dupont

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I switched to FreeTaxUSA last year after getting fed up with TurboTax's pricing. It handles Schedule E just fine and actually has a specific section for royalty income. Saved like $90 compared to TurboTax's "self-employment" package which I didn't even need!

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Zoe Gonzalez

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This is exactly the kind of confusion I had when I first started getting 1099s from my side income! The distinction between royalties and self-employment income is really important and can save you money. Just to add to what others have said - since you're operating at a net loss, make sure you keep detailed records of all your streaming-related expenses (equipment, software subscriptions, games, internet upgrades, etc.). Even though you're reporting on Schedule E for the royalty income, you can still deduct ordinary and necessary expenses against that income. Also, don't let TurboTax upsell you into the self-employment package if you don't need it! The basic version should handle Schedule E just fine. If your tax software is pushing you toward Schedule C, it's probably because it's seeing "1099" and assuming it's all self-employment income, but as others have explained, the 1099-MISC Box 2 royalties are different. One last tip - keep good documentation about the hobby vs. business question. The IRS looks at factors like whether you're trying to make a profit, how much time you spend on it, and whether you have the expertise to make it profitable. Since you mentioned you're still in the "costs money" phase, documenting your efforts to grow the channel and become profitable could be helpful if this ever comes up.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm just getting started with streaming myself and had no idea about the hobby vs business distinction. How do you document your "efforts to grow the channel"? Like, do you need to keep a business plan or just general records of what you're doing to try to become profitable? I want to make sure I'm prepared in case the IRS ever questions whether this is a legitimate business activity.

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Kiara Greene

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Question for those who've filed late S corp elections - if I file Form 2553 now (August 2024) requesting an effective date of January 1, 2024, do I need to file my 2024 quarterly estimated tax payments based on S corp tax treatment or still as a single-member LLC until the election is approved?

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Esteban Tate

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You should continue filing your quarterly estimated taxes as if you're an S corporation (meaning employment tax deposits for your reasonable salary and estimated personal income tax for distributions) while waiting for approval. If for some reason your S corp election is denied, you'd need to correct everything later, but that's unlikely if you qualify for relief under Rev. Proc. 2013-30. Operating inconsistently with S corp status during the pending period could actually hurt your case for showing you intended to be treated as an S corp all along.

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Cass Green

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@Esteban Tate is absolutely right about continuing with S corp tax treatment while your election is pending. I made this mistake when I filed my late election - I kept making estimated payments as a single-member LLC just "to be safe and" the IRS actually questioned whether I was truly operating as an S corp during my reasonable cause review. Make sure you re'also keeping detailed records of your salary payments and distributions during this period. The IRS will want to see that you ve'been consistently treating yourself as an employee of the S corp, not just taking owner draws like you would with an LLC. This documentation becomes crucial if they scrutinize your election later.

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Sean O'Brien

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I went through this exact situation last year and can confirm that the late S corp election relief is definitely available, but there are a few important details to get right that I wish someone had told me upfront. First, when you file Form 2553 for the late election, make sure you're requesting the effective date as January 1, 2024 (not your LLC formation date in September 2023). The S corp election can only be effective from the beginning of a tax year, so even though you formed the LLC in September 2023, your earliest possible S corp effective date would be January 1, 2024. Second, since you mentioned you've been paying yourself a reasonable salary and taking distributions, make sure you have all those payroll records organized. The IRS will want to see that you've been consistently operating as an S corp, including proper payroll tax withholdings and quarterly 941 filings. If you haven't been doing formal payroll with withholdings, you might want to get that straightened out before filing the election. The reasonable cause statement doesn't need to be overly complex - I kept mine to about 3-4 sentences explaining that I was unaware of the deadline and that my regular tax advisor was unavailable. The key is showing you had good faith intent to elect S corp status from the beginning of the tax year. One last tip: include copies of your LLC operating agreement and any documentation showing you intended S corp treatment (like board resolutions about salary, etc.) to strengthen your case. Good luck!

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Romeo Quest

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you @Sean O'Brien! I have a quick follow-up question about the payroll records you mentioned. I've been paying myself what I calculated as a reasonable salary ($4,500/month) but I haven't been doing formal payroll withholdings - I've just been setting aside money for taxes and planned to pay it all when I file. Will this be a problem for the late S corp election, or can I correct the payroll tax situation going forward while still getting approval for the January 1, 2024 effective date?

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@Romeo Quest, the lack of formal payroll withholdings could potentially be an issue, but it's not necessarily a deal-breaker for your late S corp election. The IRS is primarily looking for evidence that you intended to operate as an S corp, and paying yourself a consistent reasonable salary is a good sign of that intent. However, you'll want to address the payroll tax situation quickly. You should file Form 941s for the quarters where you paid yourself salary but didn't withhold taxes, and you'll owe penalties and interest on the late payroll tax deposits. The good news is that you can often get penalty relief for reasonable cause on the payroll taxes too. I'd recommend getting a payroll service set up immediately and making sure you're doing proper withholdings going forward. When you file your S corp election, include documentation showing your salary payments and mention in your reasonable cause statement that you're correcting the payroll tax compliance issue. The IRS is generally understanding about administrative mistakes like this when you show good faith effort to comply correctly.

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Ravi Kapoor

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Has anyone successfully reported a company to the IRS for not sending 1099s? I'm in a similar spot with FOUR different companies who haven't sent mine. Getting really fed up with chasing them down every year.

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You can file Form 3949-A to report companies not complying with tax requirements. I did this last year with a company that never sent 1099s to any contractors. Don't know if anything happened with them specifically, but I did get a letter acknowledging my report.

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I'd recommend filing with your bank statement records rather than waiting any longer. You've already made good faith efforts to get the 1099, and February is getting late in the filing season. One additional tip - when you report this as "Other Income" on Schedule 1, make a note in your records about the missing 1099 situation. If the IRS ever questions it, you'll want to show you attempted to get the proper documentation. Also consider sending one final certified letter to the company requesting the 1099 - this creates a paper trail showing you tried to resolve it properly. The most important thing is that you report the income accurately. The IRS cares more about you reporting what you earned than whether you have the physical form. Your bank statements showing $3,750 in deposits from this supplier are perfectly acceptable documentation.

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Chloe Martin

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Document EVERYTHING before you make any moves! Save all emails, text messages, take screenshots, keep copies of the incorrect return and any marketing materials they gave you (especially if they "guaranteed" bigger refunds). Take photos of their office/signage too. This will all help your case whether you go to the IRS, small claims, or try to dispute the charge. I learned this the hard way when trying to get my money back from a sketchy preparer.

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Diego Rojas

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This is really good advice. I won a small claims case against a preparer last year because I had saved all our text messages where he admitted to "taking some liberties" with my deductions. The judge was not impressed with his "creative accounting" techniques.

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I'm sorry you're going through this - tax preparer issues are incredibly stressful! You've gotten some excellent advice here. I'd especially emphasize filing that amended return (Form 1040-X) as soon as possible to correct those questionable deductions. The IRS tends to be more understanding when you proactively fix errors rather than waiting for them to find them. One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is checking if your state has a Taxpayer Advocate Service office. They're independent from the IRS and can help if you're experiencing significant hardship from tax problems. Since you're worried about potential audits and penalties from the preparer's mistakes, they might be able to assist you in navigating the process. Also, when you do report the preparer using Forms 14157 and 14157-A, include as much detail as possible about their practices - especially that comment about "maximizing refunds" by claiming deductions you didn't authorize. That kind of pattern is exactly what the IRS looks for when investigating preparers. Stay strong - you're taking all the right steps to protect yourself!

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Amina Toure

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Thank you for mentioning the Taxpayer Advocate Service! I had no idea that existed. As someone new to dealing with tax issues like this, it's really helpful to know there are resources beyond just calling the main IRS line. Does the Taxpayer Advocate Service cost anything to use? And do you need to meet certain criteria to get their help, or can anyone contact them when having problems with tax preparers?

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