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Paolo Bianchi

Can I do a 1031 exchange transferring property from an S Corp to a new entity?

So I'm in a bit of a tax puzzle here. My family has been running a small commercial real estate business through an S Corporation for about 15 years. We currently own 3 properties in the S Corp, and we're looking to sell one of them (a small office building we purchased for around $420K that's now worth about $750K). We want to use a 1031 exchange to defer the capital gains, but here's where it gets complicated: we'd like to purchase the replacement property under a completely new LLC for liability protection reasons. I've been researching if we can do a 1031 exchange when the entity selling (our S Corp) is different from the entity buying (new LLC). Has anyone successfully done this? My CPA seemed uncertain about it and mentioned something about "disregarded entities" which honestly just confused me more. I know the replacement property has to be "like-kind" but I'm fuzzy on whether the entity ownership structure matters for 1031 purposes. Any advice would be greatly appreciated since we're planning to list the property next month and need to get our ducks in a row before then!

Yara Assad

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The entity ownership structure absolutely matters for a 1031 exchange. The basic rule is that the tax entity that sells the relinquished property must be the same tax entity that buys the replacement property. This is called the "same taxpayer rule." For your situation, if the S Corporation sells the property, then the S Corporation needs to purchase the replacement property to qualify for a 1031 exchange. You can't have the S Corp sell and then a new LLC purchase. There might be a workaround though. If you form a single-member LLC that's owned by the S Corp, that LLC would be a "disregarded entity" for tax purposes - meaning it doesn't file its own tax return and everything flows through to the S Corp. In that case, the IRS would still view the S Corp as the taxpayer for both transactions. Another option is to distribute the property out of the S Corp to the shareholders first (which could trigger tax), and then do the 1031 exchange as individuals or through a partnership LLC.

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Olivia Clark

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Wouldn't distributing the property out of the S Corp trigger a taxable event though? Seems like that defeats the purpose of trying to do a 1031 in the first place? Also, what about creating the new LLC first, then having the S Corp contribute the property to the LLC before selling? Would that work?

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Yara Assad

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Distributing the property out of the S Corp would indeed trigger a taxable event - it would be treated as if the S Corp sold the property to the shareholders at fair market value. You're right that this somewhat defeats the purpose of the 1031 exchange. Having the S Corp contribute the property to a new LLC before selling wouldn't solve the problem either. If the S Corp owns 100% of the LLC, then the LLC would be a disregarded entity and could work for a 1031. But if the ownership changes at all, you'd break the "same taxpayer" rule and disqualify the exchange.

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Another option you might consider is doing a "drop and swap" before the 1031 exchange. Basically, the S Corp would "drop" (distribute) an ownership interest in the property to its shareholders, creating a tenancy in common. Then the individual owners could do the 1031 exchange into whatever new entity they want. This is somewhat aggressive from a tax perspective, and the IRS might challenge it if they believe it was done solely for tax purposes without business substance. But with proper planning and if you hold the TIC ownership for a meaningful period before the exchange, it could work.

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Malik Jenkins

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How long would you need to hold the property as tenants in common before doing the 1031 exchange for this to be considered legitimate? I've heard everything from 1 year to just a few days.

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There's no specific timeframe defined in the tax code, which makes this tricky. Many tax professionals recommend at least 12 months to be conservative, but court cases have upheld much shorter periods. The key is showing a legitimate business purpose for the restructuring beyond just tax benefits. Make sure you actually operate as tenants in common during this period - separate accounting, proper documentation of ownership interests, and possibly even separate insurance policies. The more you treat it as a genuine change in ownership structure, the stronger your position will be if questioned.

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Has anyone successfully used a Delaware Statutory Trust (DST) for this kind of situation? I've heard these can be used for 1031 exchanges when you want to change ownership structures, but I'm not clear on whether they work when coming from an S Corp.

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Eduardo Silva

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DSTs can be great for 1031 exchanges but they typically work better when you're an individual investor or partnership. The "same taxpayer" rule still applies, so if an S Corp sells the property, the S Corp would need to be the one investing in the DST interests for it to qualify as a 1031 exchange. The problem remains if you're trying to change the taxpaying entity.

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Oliver Weber

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I've been through a similar situation with my S Corp and 1031 exchanges. What worked for me was creating a single-member LLC that was 100% owned by the S Corp before initiating the exchange. Since the LLC is a disregarded entity for tax purposes, the IRS treats the S Corp as the actual taxpayer for both the sale and purchase. The key is making sure the S Corp owns 100% of the new LLC throughout the entire exchange process - any change in ownership percentage would break the "same taxpayer" rule. I had to be very careful with the timing and documentation to ensure the exchange qualified. My advice would be to set up the LLC structure well before listing the property (at least 30-60 days) and make sure your qualified intermediary understands the entity structure. Also, keep detailed records showing the S Corp's continuous ownership of the LLC throughout the process. This approach gave me the liability protection I wanted while preserving the 1031 exchange benefits.

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Zara Ahmed

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This is really helpful! I'm curious about the timing aspect you mentioned - did you have to wait a certain period after creating the LLC before starting the exchange process? Also, when you say "detailed records," what specific documentation did you maintain to show the S Corp's continuous ownership? I'm worried about missing something that could disqualify the exchange later on.

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PixelPioneer

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Great question @zara! I waited about 45 days after forming the LLC before listing the property, mainly to establish a clear paper trail showing the entity was operational before any exchange activities began. For documentation, I maintained: (1) the LLC operating agreement showing 100% S Corp ownership, (2) monthly bank statements for the LLC account, (3) board resolutions from the S Corp authorizing the LLC formation and property activities, (4) correspondence with the qualified intermediary referencing the entity structure, and (5) title insurance policies showing the correct ownership chain. The most critical piece was getting a written confirmation from my QI that they understood and approved the disregarded entity structure before we started the 45-day identification period. This prevented any surprises later when it came time to close on the replacement property. I also had my tax attorney review everything upfront rather than waiting until problems arose.

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Chloe Harris

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This is exactly the kind of complex entity structuring issue that trips up so many real estate investors! I went through something very similar with my family's S Corp last year when we wanted to sell a rental property but needed the replacement property in an LLC for liability reasons. The key insight that finally clicked for me was understanding that the IRS looks at the "tax reporting entity" rather than just the legal entity name. Since a single-member LLC owned 100% by an S Corp is disregarded for tax purposes, both transactions effectively flow through to the same taxpayer (the S Corp) for 1031 purposes. I'd strongly recommend getting this structure set up ASAP if you're planning to list next month. You'll want at least 30-45 days of the LLC being operational before starting the exchange to show it's not just a tax maneuver. Also, make sure your qualified intermediary is experienced with disregarded entity structures - not all of them are comfortable with this approach. One other tip: consider having the new LLC obtain its own EIN even though it's disregarded. This makes the paperwork cleaner and helps establish it as a legitimate business entity rather than just a shell for the exchange.

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This is really solid advice! I'm just getting started with understanding 1031 exchanges and the entity structure requirements seem incredibly complex. When you mention getting the LLC its own EIN even though it's disregarded - does that create any complications with tax filing? I'm worried about accidentally creating a situation where the LLC gets treated as a separate tax entity when that's exactly what we're trying to avoid for the 1031 exchange to work. Also, @chloe, when you set up your structure, did you transfer the property title into the LLC before starting the exchange, or did the S Corp retain title throughout the process? I'm getting conflicting information about whether the property needs to actually be owned by the LLC or just held for the benefit of the S Corp during the exchange.

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