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Emma Johnson

If you were fired can you collect unemployment in California EDD?

So I just got let go from my job last Friday and I'm honestly in shock still. I worked at a logistics company for about 2 years and my manager called me in, said they were 'moving in a different direction' but HR classified it as a termination for cause on my paperwork. I didn't do anything intentionally wrong - I missed a couple of deadlines during a really rough stretch when my dad was in the hospital, and apparently that was enough for them to fire me. Now I'm staring at this UI Online application and I have no idea if I even qualify. My coworker said if you were fired can you collect unemployment but she wasn't sure about California specifically. I've read conflicting stuff online - some sites say you can never get unemployment if you were fired, other sites say it depends on the reason. I have about 6 weeks of savings left so this isn't a hypothetical, I need to actually figure this out fast. Can someone please explain how California EDD handles terminations vs. layoffs? Does getting fired automatically disqualify you?

Short answer: getting fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from California unemployment benefits. California EDD looks at the specific reason you were fired, not just the fact that you were terminated. The key legal standard is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law. Missing deadlines because of a family medical emergency almost certainly does not rise to the level of misconduct. File your claim immediately - you can do it at UI Online through the EDD website. Don't wait.

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Thank you, this is exactly what I needed to hear. So they'll actually investigate why I was fired rather than just taking the employer's word that I was terminated for cause?

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Exactly. California EDD will contact your former employer and ask them to explain the reason for separation. Your employer has to demonstrate that your actions constituted misconduct - meaning willful, deliberate, or wanton disregard for the employer's interests. Absenteeism due to a family emergency generally doesn't meet that bar. Make sure you explain your dad's hospitalization situation clearly when you certify and if adjudication opens up.

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This is correct. I work in HR and can confirm that 'terminated for cause' on internal paperwork doesn't automatically mean EDD will agree with that determination. EDD makes their own independent finding.

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I got fired about 8 months ago and was terrified I wouldn't qualify. My company said I violated company policy but EDD still approved me after the adjudication process. The whole thing took about 3 weeks but I got approved and received all my back payments. File the claim and let EDD investigate - that's literally what the adjudication process is for.

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Did you have to do anything special during adjudication? Like submit documents or just wait?

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They sent me a form asking me to describe what happened from my side. I wrote out a detailed explanation and they called my former employer too. After about 3 weeks it showed approved. Just be honest and thorough in your explanation.

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same, got fired from a restaurant job and thought I was done for, ended up getting approved after adjudication. edd approved me after like 4 weeks

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Honestly after I got fired I spent TWO WEEKS trying to get someone at California EDD on the phone to ask this exact question because my claim went into adjudication and I was terrified. Couldn't get through to save my life. A friend told me to try Claimyr (claimyr.com) and I was really skeptical but it actually worked - got me connected to a live EDD agent within a couple hours. There's a video that shows how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. Being able to actually talk to someone and ask 'if you were fired can you collect unemployment in my specific situation' made a huge difference in my stress level honestly.

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wait it actually gets you through to edd?? ive been trying to call for 3 days straight

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Yeah it worked for me. I had basically given up on ever reaching a human being at EDD. The agent I talked to was super helpful and explained exactly where my claim stood in adjudication.

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I've heard of Claimyr. My sister used it when her claim got stuck. She said the same thing - actually got a real person on the line who could answer her specific questions about her termination.

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ok so im confused about something - does it matter WHY you were fired or just HOW you were fired?? like does it change anything if the company says misconduct vs just performance issues?? asking because my situation is similar to yours

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Great question - it actually matters a lot. Under California unemployment law, 'misconduct' has a specific legal definition. Poor performance alone, even chronic poor performance, typically does NOT constitute misconduct unless EDD can show you deliberately disregarded your employer's reasonable expectations. Being bad at your job is different from intentionally breaking the rules.

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oh wow ok so performance issues are different from actual misconduct thats actually really helpful to know

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This is what I was confused about too. My HR paperwork says 'terminated for cause' but I think my situation was more performance-related than intentional misconduct. Hoping EDD sees it the same way.

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BEEN THROUGH THIS. Let me tell you what nobody tells you - California EDD will put your claim in adjudication almost automatically when an employer checks the 'misconduct' box on their response form, even if the actual circumstances don't support it. This is NOT a denial. It's an investigation. Your job is to respond to any questionnaires quickly and completely. Document everything you can remember about the circumstances. Did you have documentation about your dad being in the hospital? Medical records, emails to your manager, anything like that?

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I have some texts to my manager explaining what was going on and I think the hospital sent some paperwork to my employer at some point. Should I proactively submit that stuff?

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YES. When EDD sends you their questionnaire about the separation, reference that documentation and offer to provide it. The more context you give them the better. An adjudicator reading about someone missing deadlines during a parent's hospitalization is going to look at that very differently than just 'missed deadlines repeatedly.

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this is solid advice. documentation saved my claim when i got fired. keep everything

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Let me give you a breakdown of how California EDD categorizes reasons for termination when evaluating unemployment eligibility: Things that typically DO disqualify you (misconduct): - Theft or dishonesty - Deliberate insubordination - Harassment of coworkers - Intentional violation of clear company policies you knew about Things that typically DON'T disqualify you: - Performance issues / not meeting expectations - Attendance problems due to illness or family emergency - Being let go during a reorganization but classified as termination - Not being a good fit - Mistakes made without intent to harm the company Your situation sounds like it falls in the second category. File immediately.

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This breakdown is incredibly helpful, thank you. I feel a lot more confident now that my situation isn't an automatic disqualification.

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Saving this comment. This is the clearest explanation I've seen of the misconduct standard anywhere online.

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what about if you got fired for calling in sick too many times? like not FMLA or anything just regular sick days but more than the policy allows

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filed my claim yesterday after getting fired last week. seeing this thread is making me feel way better. I was totally convinced being fired meant no benefits automatically. didn't realize edd does their own investigation

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Same boat as you! Filed mine this morning actually. Fingers crossed for both of us.

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yeah seriously this thread should be like pinned somewhere lol. the 'if you were fired can you collect unemployment' question should have a simple answer on the edd website but of course it doesn't

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One thing I want to add that nobody mentioned yet - when you complete your initial claim application and it asks about your reason for separation, be very specific and honest. Don't just write 'terminated' - explain the full context. Something like 'terminated by employer citing missed deadlines; deadlines were missed during family medical emergency when father was hospitalized.' That initial explanation sets the tone for your whole adjudication.

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Good call - I actually went back and added more detail to the notes section of my application. It let me type a pretty long explanation.

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100% this. The initial claim application narrative matters. Adjudicators are reading these and the more human context you provide upfront the less back-and-forth is needed.

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does it matter if you already submitted and didn't put much detail? can you add to it somehow

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my coworker swore up and down that getting fired for ANY reason means no unemployment ever. she was so wrong lol. i got fired and collected benefits no problem. its really about the reason behind the firing

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Yeah this is such a widespread myth. I genuinely believed this until yesterday. Really glad I asked before just giving up on filing.

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the misconduct thing is the real key. most firings don't actually meet that legal definition

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Just wanted to share my experience since it's relevant - I got fired last year 'for cause' after an argument with my supervisor. My employer fought my unemployment claim hard and I was terrified I'd be disqualified. EDD scheduled a phone interview with me to get my side of the story. I explained what happened from my perspective, they did their investigation, and I was approved. The whole adjudication took about 5 weeks but I got back pay for all those weeks too. Don't give up just because your employer is fighting it.

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The phone interview aspect is something I didn't know about - is that standard when there's a dispute about the reason for termination?

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In my experience yes, especially when the employer claims misconduct. EDD wants to hear both sides before making a determination. Be prepared, be calm, and just tell the truth about what happened.

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Correct. The phone interview is called an 'eligibility interview' and it's your opportunity to present your side of the separation. Having your documentation ready and your timeline straight before that call is really important.

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For anyone in adjudication who can't get through to EDD to check on their claim status - I'll mention again that Claimyr at claimyr.com seriously helped me. I was calling EDD daily for almost two weeks with zero luck. Used Claimyr and got through same day. The video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 explains the whole thing. When you're in adjudication limbo and just need someone to tell you what's happening with your claim, being able to actually reach an EDD agent is invaluable.

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ok fine im checking it out. been trying to reach edd for a week about my adjudication status and getting nowhere

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Good luck! It's genuinely frustrating that reaching EDD is so hard especially when you have urgent questions about whether your fired-for-cause claim is going to be approved.

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I was skeptical of these services but my neighbor used it and said it actually connected her with a real EDD agent who answered all her questions about her termination situation. Might try it myself.

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The thing that really gets me is how many people just DON'T FILE because they assume being fired disqualifies them. File and let EDD make that determination - that's literally what the system is designed for. Even if your employer told you that you won't qualify, even if HR said you were fired for misconduct - file the claim. The worst EDD can say is no, and then you can appeal that decision.

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This is such a good point. I almost didn't file because I was so sure the answer would be no. Really glad I asked around before just giving up.

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yep. file first ask questions later. you can always be disqualified but you can never collect benefits you never applied for

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what happens to your claim while adjudication is happening? do you still have to certify every two weeks?

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Answering the question above about certifying during adjudication - YES, you absolutely must continue certifying for benefits every two weeks even while your claim is in adjudication. This is critical. If your claim is ultimately approved, you will receive payment for all the weeks you certified. If you stop certifying during adjudication thinking there's no point, you will lose those weeks and cannot go back and claim them retroactively. Keep certifying no matter what.

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oh thank god i asked. i was literally about to stop certifying because i thought there was no point while adjudication was going on

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Please don't stop! It's one of the most common mistakes people make. Certify every single two-week period until you get a final determination.

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Bookmarking this comment. Certifying through adjudication - got it. I did not know this was required, this could have been a costly mistake.

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sorry to jump in but this whole thread is gold. been unemployed for 3 weeks now after getting fired and just found this. gonna go file right now actually

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Do it!! Don't wait any longer, every week you wait is a week you potentially can't claim retroactively.

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filed it just now. put a lot of detail in the separation reason section. fingers crossed

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One thing to keep in mind - California EDD will have its own questionnaire but also your former employer gets to submit their version of events. Make sure your account is coherent, factual, and mentions any mitigating circumstances like family emergencies. Adjudicators are human beings reading two competing narratives and deciding which one is more consistent with the legal standard for misconduct. Tell your story clearly.

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This framing really helps - it's not just about the facts but about how clearly and compellingly I present the context. I'm going to write out my account in detail before the questionnaire comes so I'm prepared.

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Exactly right. Also keep records of everything - dates, communications, any HR documents. You want to be able to back up your account if it comes to an appeal.

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ok update on my situation - my claim went into adjudication after i filed and i've been losing my mind waiting. edd phone lines are completely impossible. tried the tips in this thread about calling early morning but still couldn't get through after 4 days of trying. seriously considering trying claimyr because i just need to know where my claim stands

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Honestly just try Claimyr, the phone battle with EDD is not winnable through persistence alone. claimyr.com - I spent way too long trying the 'just keep calling' approach before I gave in and used it. Save yourself the stress.

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yeah ok doing it. i'll report back. i just need to talk to an actual person about whether my termination situation qualifies or not

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update us!! genuinely curious if it works for adjudication status questions specifically

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Let's also talk about what happens if EDD does issue a disqualification - because it's not the end of the road. You have 30 days from the date on the Notice of Determination to file an appeal with the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB). The appeals process is a real hearing where you get to present evidence and testimony. Many people who are initially disqualified win their appeals. If you receive a disqualification, don't just accept it - consult with a workers' rights organization or attorney who handles unemployment appeals.

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Really good to know there's an appeals process. I feel like I have a good case but knowing there's a safety net if EDD gets it wrong is reassuring.

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The appeals process is genuinely fair in my experience. An administrative law judge hears both sides. It's more formal than the initial determination process but it's accessible to regular people without attorneys.

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final thought from me - whoever told OP that being fired means automatic no unemployment was just wrong and unfortunately that myth causes a lot of people to not file when they absolutely should. the whole 'if you were fired can you collect unemployment' question has a nuanced answer and california edd takes it seriously. most regular firings qualify.

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Agreed. And honestly the information in this thread should be plastered everywhere because the misinformation out there is really damaging. I almost didn't file at all.

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This thread is exactly what I wish I'd found when I got fired two years ago and just didn't file because I assumed I didn't qualify. Learned too late I probably would have been approved.

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That's honestly the saddest outcome - people who had valid claims and never filed because of this misconception. Please, everyone reading this: if you were fired for reasons other than clear intentional misconduct, file your California EDD claim. Let EDD make the determination.

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UPDATE for everyone following this - I got my determination letter today. APPROVED. Adjudication took 18 days. EDD found that missing deadlines due to a documented family medical emergency did not constitute misconduct under California unemployment law. First payment should hit my debit card within a few days. Thank you all so much for the encouragement and information in this thread - I was 5 minutes away from not filing at all. If you got fired and you're wondering if you can collect unemployment in California, the answer is: file and find out. You might be surprised.

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Congrats!! So happy to hear this. Your update is going to help so many people who find this thread in the future.

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YESSS!! this is the update i needed today. congrats!!

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Great outcome and perfectly consistent with how California EDD handles these situations. Employer saying 'misconduct' on paperwork means nothing if the actual circumstances don't support the legal definition. Glad you got your benefits.

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this gives me so much hope. still waiting on my determination but seeing this outcome helps a lot

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