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If you get fired can you claim unemployment with California EDD?

So I got let go from my job last Friday and I'm freaking out a bit. My manager said they were 'terminating my position' but honestly I think they just didn't like me. I worked there for 2 years and 4 months doing warehouse logistics and they gave me zero warning. Just called me into the office and said today was my last day. I'm sitting here wondering if you get fired can you claim unemployment through California EDD or if I'm automatically disqualified. I have friends who got laid off and sailed through the process but mine feels different because of the word 'fired.' I haven't done anything illegal or anything like that - there were some attendance issues a few months back but I thought we resolved all that. Do I even have a shot at getting approved or should I just skip the whole thing and start job hunting full time?

Short answer: YES, file immediately. Don't let the word 'fired' scare you away from filing. California EDD evaluates terminations on a case-by-case basis and being fired does not automatically disqualify you from receiving unemployment benefits. The key distinction the EDD makes is whether you were terminated for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law - and that definition is actually pretty narrow. Simple things like not being a great fit, personality conflicts, or even some performance issues don't usually rise to the level of misconduct that would get you disqualified. File your claim right now at UI Online, don't wait. Every week you delay is potentially lost benefits since they don't backdate claims.

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Wait so there's actually a specific legal definition of misconduct? I assumed fired automatically meant no benefits. Filing tonight then.

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this is correct. my brother got fired for being late too many times and still got approved after adjudication. took about 5 weeks but money came through

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I went through almost this exact situation about 8 months ago - got fired from a retail management job after 3 years. I filed anyway and here's what happened: EDD opens an investigation basically, contacts your former employer to get their side, and then makes a determination. My employer claimed misconduct, I disagreed, and after adjudication I was approved. The burden is actually on your former employer to prove misconduct under California law. Attendance issues that were addressed and supposedly resolved are a much weaker case for your employer to make. Document everything you can remember - dates, what was said, any written warnings you received or didn't receive.

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Did you have to submit documentation yourself or did EDD just decide based on what the employer said?

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EDD sent me a questionnaire asking for my side of the story. Answer every question thoroughly and honestly. They give you a chance to explain the circumstances of your separation before making any determination.

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same experience here, the questionnaire is really important don't rush through it

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File ASAP and here's a practical tip about the phone situation - if your claim goes into adjudication (which is likely since you were fired rather than laid off), you're probably going to need to talk to an actual EDD rep at some point. Getting through on the phone is genuinely brutal. I spent two weeks trying before someone in another forum mentioned Claimyr. It's a service at claimyr.com that essentially holds your place in the call queue and calls you back when an agent is available. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that explains how it works. Used it myself when my adjudication was dragging on and I needed answers - got connected to an EDD rep same day after days of failed attempts on my own.

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I've already tried calling EDD once today and got the 'we are experiencing high call volume' message and it hung up. Saving this Claimyr link for when I really need it.

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claimyr saved me during my adjudication honestly. would have been weeks more of waiting without it

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does that actually work? sounds almost too good to be true lol

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okay so technically you CAN file but whether you'll get approved depends on WHY you were fired. California EDD looks at this pretty carefully. If you were fired for what they call 'misconduct connected with your work' then you'd be disqualified. But misconduct has to be like willful violation of company rules, deliberate acts against your employer, that kind of stuff. Being bad at your job or having interpersonal issues usually isn't misconduct. Attendance CAN be misconduct in some cases but generally only if it was chronic, you had clear written warnings, and you kept doing it anyway with no reasonable excuse.

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My attendance issues were from a family medical situation a while back and my supervisor knew about it. Does that matter?

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That could actually help your case significantly. If you communicated reasons for absences and your employer was aware, that weakens their misconduct argument considerably. Mention all of that in your questionnaire.

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Also look into whether FMLA or California's CFRA might have applied to your situation. Could be relevant if any legal protections were involved.

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Just want to share my experience because I was so scared to file when I got fired. I thought for sure I'd be denied and then have to repay money or something. But my friend who works in HR told me to file anyway because EDD decides independently and most terminations that aren't for serious misconduct end up getting approved. I filed, it went to adjudication for about 3 weeks, got a letter saying approved. The process was stressful but I'm really glad I filed instead of just giving up before I even tried.

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This is really encouraging thank you. How did you handle the adjudication waiting period? Did you still have to file weekly claims?

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YES, keep filing your weekly certifications even while in adjudication. This is super important - if you stop filing you might lose those weeks. The money kind of gets held until the adjudication resolves then comes in a lump sum.

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confirming this, do NOT stop filing weekly certs during adjudication. made that mistake once and lost 2 weeks of benefits

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ugh the EDD system is so frustrating. i got fired last year and they made the whole process as confusing as possible. Like why can't they just TELL you upfront what counts as misconduct instead of making you guess?? I ended up having to submit documents three different times because they kept saying my responses were incomplete. The phone system is an absolute joke. I called 47 times in one day and got through zero times. ZERO. These are people who need money to pay rent and they can't even answer the phone.

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47 times wow. That's terrifying. How did you eventually get it resolved?

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honestly a combination of submitting everything I could find in writing through UI Online and eventually getting through on the phone. Took about 6 weeks total. I was on the verge of giving up multiple times.

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This is exactly why I recommend Claimyr when adjudication drags on. The phone situation at EDD is objectively terrible and having a way to actually reach someone can shave weeks off the process.

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Let me give you the full breakdown of what happens when you're fired and you file for UI in California since there seems to be some confusion in this thread. 1) You file your initial claim at UI Online. 2) EDD sends a Notice of Unemployment Insurance Claim Filed to your former employer. 3) Employer has 10 days to respond and provide their reason for termination. 4) If employer claims misconduct, claim goes to adjudication and an EDD interviewer reviews both sides. 5) You'll likely receive a questionnaire about the circumstances - complete it thoroughly. 6) EDD issues a determination - either approved or disqualified. 7) If disqualified, you have 30 days to appeal to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board. The whole process typically takes 3-6 weeks from filing.

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This is the most helpful breakdown I've seen. So even if I get disqualified I can appeal?

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Absolutely. The appeals process is very real and many claimants win their appeals especially when the initial disqualification was based on employer misconduct claims that can't be fully substantiated. Keep all documentation.

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appeals take a while though, like months sometimes. but people do win them

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wait i thought if you quit you cant get unemployment but if fired you automatically get it?? thats what i always heard

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Common misconception. It's actually kind of the reverse of that intuition in some ways. If you quit you can potentially still qualify if you had 'good cause' to leave. If fired, you can qualify as long as it wasn't for misconduct. Neither situation is automatic in either direction - EDD investigates both.

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oh wow i had that completely backwards this whole time

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Yeah this trips a lot of people up. Quitting with good cause and termination without misconduct can both lead to approval. The labels matter less than the actual circumstances.

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I should mention - when you complete the initial claim and they ask about your reason for separation, be honest but also be precise. Don't volunteer negative information unnecessarily, but absolutely do not lie. For 'terminated by employer' select that option, and when asked for details just state the facts of what happened without editorializing. 'My employment was ended by my employer on [date]. I had been employed there for 2 years. Prior attendance issues had been addressed and resolved with management approximately [X] months prior to termination.' Short, factual, unemotional.

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Really good advice on the tone. I was going to write a whole emotional paragraph about how unfair it was lol.

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Save the emotional context for if/when you speak to an interviewer who can ask clarifying questions. Written responses should be factual and professional. The interviewer conversations can be more explanatory.

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this is solid advice. the adjudication questionnaire is almost like a legal document, treat it that way

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something nobody mentioned - make sure you're doing your job search activities and logging them even during adjudication. California requires you to search for work and log your contacts. Don't fall behind on that thinking you don't need to do it until you're approved. EDD can ask about job search activities going back to your claim date.

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Oh man I didn't know about this. How many job contacts per week?

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Currently California requires a minimum of 3 job search activities per week when you're certifying. Things like applying to jobs, attending job fairs, contacting employers, using CalJOBS. Keep a log with dates and employer names.

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Also register with CalJOBS if you haven't already. EDD may require this especially if your claim takes a while to process.

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From a practical standpoint on the adjudication process - when EDD contacts you for an interview (phone interview), prepare for it like it matters because it does. They'll ask you specific questions about the attendance issues, what you were told, whether you were warned, what steps you took to correct the issue. Have a timeline ready. Write it out beforehand. The interviewers are generally fair but they have a lot of claims to process and a prepared claimant comes across much better than a scattered one.

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Did they give advance notice of the phone interview time?

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They send a letter or notice through UI Online with a scheduled time. Make absolutely sure your contact information in your EDD profile is current and that you answer that call. Missing the interview can result in a determination being made without your input.

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if you miss the interview call them immediately and explain. they will sometimes reschedule but don't count on it

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been lurking this thread and just want to say this is the most useful EDD thread I've found. saving this whole thing. I'm in a similar situation got fired last month and have been too scared to file thinking i'd get in trouble or owe money back somehow

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File immediately! The worst realistic outcome of filing is you get denied, not that you owe money. The overpayment scenario people worry about usually only applies if you collect benefits while not eligible - like not reporting work or lying about your separation.

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okay that makes sense. filing today

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good luck! file and then keep filing weekly certs and checking UI Online. the waiting is stressful but worth it

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my situation when I got fired was a little different - I was fired FOR CAUSE they said, performance related. EDD still approved me after adjudication. the reason being: my employer said I failed to meet performance standards but couldn't show they gave me clear written improvement plans or adequate warning before firing. Documentation cuts both ways - if your employer didn't document their attempts to correct your behavior before firing you, their misconduct claim is much weaker.

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That's a really good point. I only ever got one verbal conversation about the attendance thing and nothing in writing.

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That verbal-only warning situation often helps claimants. A single undocumented verbal conversation is usually not enough for EDD to call something misconduct.

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honestly if your claim goes into adjudication just expect it to take 4-8 weeks and plan your budget around that. Having some kind of plan for the gap - whether it's savings, borrowing, cutting expenses - takes some of the pressure off. Also look into whether you qualify for any emergency assistance programs while waiting because EDD appeals and adjudication periods can be unexpectedly long sometimes.

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Yeah I have about 6 weeks of savings so the timing is stressful. Any idea if there's any way to speed up adjudication?

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Not really speed it up but making sure your questionnaire is complete, responding promptly to any EDD requests, and being reachable by phone all help prevent delays. Delays usually happen when EDD can't reach someone or is waiting on information.

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And if you need to proactively contact EDD during adjudication to check status or provide additional info, remember the phone situation is rough. Claimyr at claimyr.com was genuinely useful for getting through when I needed to follow up on my own claim status during a long adjudication wait. Check the demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you're curious how it works.

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something i want to add - your employer is actually contacted by EDD and has an obligation to respond. If they don't respond to EDD's inquiry within the timeframe, EDD typically approves the claim by default. Some smaller employers don't respond because they don't want to deal with it or don't know they're supposed to. Not saying bank on that but it does happen.

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Interesting. It's a smaller company maybe 40 employees so that's actually possible.

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no guarantees obviously but smaller companies with less HR infrastructure sometimes just don't engage with the EDD process

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Even if they do respond, remember you get to respond to what they say. EDD gives both sides a chance before deciding.

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just to close the loop for anyone reading this later - the actual legal standard in California is from Unemployment Insurance Code Section 1256. Misconduct means willful or wanton disregard of an employer's interests. Key word being WILLFUL. Accidents, mistakes, poor performance, not getting along with coworkers, these generally don't meet that standard. You have to essentially have been deliberately trying to harm your employer's interests or flagrantly violating clear reasonable rules. Most firings don't meet that bar.

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This is the accurate legal standard yes. And the key case law also establishes that isolated incidents, situations with mitigating circumstances, and problems the employee wasn't adequately warned about generally don't constitute misconduct.

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Reading all of this I feel way more confident. Filing my claim right now as I type this.

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Good luck! Come back and update us on how it goes.

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update request: OP did you file yet? How did it go?

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Yes! Filed last night. Claim is showing pending status. I got a message that my claim requires additional review which I assume means adjudication. Going to stay on top of my weekly certifications and job search log. Will update when I hear something. Thank you everyone in this thread seriously.

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fingers crossed for you! adjudication pending is normal for fired claims, don't panic

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Keep us posted. And remember if you need to reach EDD directly and the regular phone line is impossible, that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier can be really helpful for actually getting through to a real agent.

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Saved the claimyr.com link and bookmarked the demo video. Hopefully I won't need it but good to have in my back pocket. Thanks again everyone.

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Late addition but wanted to mention - even if you get disqualified initially, appealing is VERY worth it. Statistics I've seen suggest a significant percentage of UI appeal hearings result in reversal of initial disqualification decisions. The hearing is less formal than court, you can represent yourself, and you can bring witnesses and documentation. Don't assume a denial letter is the end of the road.

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Really reassuring to know there's still an option even if the first determination goes against me.

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Appeals are heard by the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, completely separate from EDD. The hearings are conducted by administrative law judges and both you and your former employer can participate. Preparation matters a lot at this stage.

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Also worth knowing there are free legal aid services in California that specifically help with unemployment appeals if you need help preparing. California Rural Legal Assistance and similar organizations sometimes offer this.

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