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If I get fired during my probation period can I collect unemployment in California?

So I just got let go from my job last Friday and I'm in kind of a weird situation. I had only been there for about 11 weeks - they had a 90-day probationary period and apparently I didn't make the cut. My manager said it was a 'performance fit issue' which honestly felt vague and I'm not even sure what that means. Anyway I'm trying to figure out if I can even file for unemployment through California EDD because I keep hearing different things. Some people are telling me that if you get fired you automatically can't collect UI benefits, and others are saying it doesn't matter how you were let go. I still have wages from my previous job where I worked for almost 2 years before starting this new one, so I'm not starting from zero. Can someone help me clarify whether being fired during a probation period actually disqualifies you from California EDD unemployment? I already filed a claim online but I have no idea what to expect.

Good news - being fired during a probationary period does NOT automatically disqualify you from collecting unemployment in California. The key thing California EDD looks at is the REASON for the termination, not the timing or whether you were still in probation. There's a legal distinction between being fired for 'misconduct' versus being let go for performance reasons or just not being the right fit. What you described - a 'performance fit issue' - typically does NOT rise to the level of misconduct under California UI code. Misconduct in California EDD's definition generally means things like: deliberate violations of company policy, theft, insubordination, or intentional acts that harm the employer. Simply not meeting performance expectations during a probationary period usually doesn't qualify as misconduct. Also important: since you have prior wages from your previous employer, those wages count toward your base period earnings. California EDD calculates your benefit amount based on the highest quarter earnings in your base period, so your 2 years at your previous job could actually give you a solid benefit amount.

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This is really reassuring, thank you. I was so worried because everywhere I searched it just said 'fired = no benefits' without explaining the nuance. Does California EDD contact my former employer to ask why I was let go?

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Yes, California EDD will send a questionnaire to your former employer asking them to describe the reason for separation. Your employer will need to make the case that you committed misconduct if they want to challenge your claim. If they just say 'didn't meet performance standards during probation' that generally won't disqualify you. The burden is on the employer to prove misconduct, not on you to prove you didn't commit it.

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wait so the employer can actually FIGHT your unemployment claim?? I didn't know that was a thing. This system is so confusing

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Yeah the fired vs. misconduct distinction is huge and most people don't know about it. I got let go from a job a couple years back for 'not meeting productivity benchmarks' during my first 60 days and California EDD approved my claim no problem. The interview they did with me was pretty straightforward - they just asked me to explain what happened from my perspective. Be honest and stick to the facts. Don't try to make yourself look better by downplaying things, just describe what actually happened. Your prior work history at your previous employer definitely helps your case too.

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Did they call you for the interview or was it online? I'm kind of dreading having to explain everything.

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It was a phone interview with a California EDD rep. Maybe 20 minutes. They're not trying to catch you in anything, they're just gathering facts. Just be calm and answer what they ask. My advice is to write down a brief timeline of events before the call so you don't get flustered.

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same experience here, mine was also a phone call. took like 3 weeks to get scheduled after i filed

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I want to flag something important for you. Even if your claim gets approved, there's a chance your employer might protest it, which could trigger an adjudication process. If that happens your payments get frozen while California EDD investigates. This is pretty common when someone gets fired (as opposed to laid off). The good news is adjudication doesn't mean you're denied - it just means they're looking into it more carefully. If you need to actually speak with someone at California EDD about where your claim stands, I'd strongly recommend trying Claimyr (claimyr.com). I was in adjudication limbo for almost 5 weeks and couldn't get anyone on the phone - Claimyr basically gets you connected to an actual California EDD agent without sitting on hold forever. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that shows how it works. Saved me a ton of stress when I was trying to figure out what was happening with my claim.

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Oh I hadn't even thought about the employer protesting. How long does adjudication usually take if that happens?

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Honestly it varies a lot. I've seen people say 2 weeks, I've seen people say 8 weeks. It depends on how backed up California EDD is and whether they need to schedule interviews with both you and your employer. The Claimyr thing I mentioned is useful specifically because getting through to California EDD during adjudication on your own is nearly impossible.

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adjudication is literally the worst. i was stuck in it for 6 weeks and couldn't get a single human on the phone the entire time. wish i'd known about tools like that sooner

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Just to add to what everyone is saying - the base period thing is REALLY important for you. California EDD looks at wages earned during a specific 12-month window (usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters before you filed). Since you worked at your previous job for nearly 2 years, those wages almost certainly fall within your base period. Your 11 weeks at the new job probably add a little but the bulk of your benefit calculation comes from that prior employment. You'll see this broken down when California EDD mails you your Award Notice if you're approved.

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So my benefit amount is basically based on the old job wages? That's actually good because I was making more there anyway.

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Exactly. California EDD uses your highest-earning quarter in the base period to calculate your weekly benefit amount (WBA). If your highest quarter at the old job was strong, you could be looking at a decent WBA. The maximum WBA in California right now is $450/week. Most people don't get the max but it depends on your earnings.

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this is the part nobody explains clearly, glad someone broke it down

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ok but wait i'm confused. if you get FIRED doesn't that mean you quit? like you chose to leave? because i thought unemployment was only for people who didn't choose to leave

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No, fired and quit are opposites. Fired means your employer ended the employment - you didn't have a choice. Quitting (voluntary quit) is when YOU decide to leave. California EDD treats these very differently. Voluntary quits usually result in disqualification unless you had 'good cause' to quit. Being fired puts you in a different category where the question is whether you were fired for misconduct.

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ohhhh ok that makes way more sense. so fired is actually better than quitting for getting unemployment? thats kind of backwards from what i always thought

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yeah same, I always assumed quitting was the safer move because you can plan ahead. learned the hard way that California EDD does NOT see it that way lol

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I went through almost this exact situation. Fired at 10 weeks, probationary period, employer said 'not a good cultural fit.' Filed with California EDD, employer did respond to their questionnaire saying I wasn't meeting expectations, and California EDD approved me anyway. The process took about 6 weeks total from filing to first payment but it worked out. The adjudication interview was actually really low-key, the rep was professional and just wanted to hear my side.

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This is exactly what I needed to hear. Did you have to do anything special to prepare for the interview or just show up and talk?

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Honestly just gathered my thoughts beforehand. I made notes about: exact dates of employment, what my job duties were, any feedback I received from the employer, and why I thought the termination wasn't for misconduct. Having it written down kept me from rambling during the call. The California EDD rep will guide the conversation though, so don't stress too much.

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The notes idea is solid advice. I did the same thing and it helped a lot. Also make sure your contact info in your UI Online account is current because they'll call the phone number on file.

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UGHH this thread is making me so anxious reading it because I'm in almost the same boat. Fired at week 8, they said it was 'performance related' and I've been waiting 3 weeks now with my claim stuck in pending and I have no idea what's happening. I've called California EDD probably 15 times and either get a busy signal or get disconnected after waiting 45 minutes. I'm literally drowning here. Do I just... keep waiting? Is there any other way to find out what's going on?

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For your exact situation - claim stuck in pending and can't get through on the phone - Claimyr is probably your best bet right now. I was in the exact same panic mode a while back. The service at claimyr.com connects you with an actual California EDD agent and there's a video walkthrough at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. Getting through to a live person was the only way I found out what was actually holding up my claim. In my case it was just a verification step they needed me to confirm, took 5 minutes on the phone but weeks of just waiting otherwise.

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I just looked at that video. I'm seriously considering it because I cannot keep sitting here not knowing what's happening. Bills are piling up. Thank you for the tip.

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hang in there, the waiting is genuinely the hardest part. 3 weeks is not unusual unfortunately but that doesn't make it less miserable

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Something worth knowing - even while your claim is being processed or in adjudication, you should be filing your weekly certifications every week. A lot of people don't realize this and then they miss weeks and have to file retroactive certifications which is a whole other headache. Log into UI Online every week on your assigned day and complete the certification even if your claim status shows pending.

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Oh wow I did not know this. I haven't filed any weekly certifications yet because I thought I had to wait until the claim was approved. Do I go back and file for the past weeks too?

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Yes you can file retroactively for missed weeks, there's an option in UI Online to do past weeks. I'd do it ASAP. If your claim gets approved they'll release those payments for all the weeks you certified for. If you don't certify you won't get paid for those weeks even if everything else is approved.

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This is really important advice. Filing weekly certifications during adjudication is one of the most commonly missed steps. The California EDD website doesn't make this super clear which is frustrating but yes, certify every week regardless of your claim status.

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just here to say probation period firing claims definitely CAN get approved, my cousin got approved last year in like the same situation, don't give up

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Thank you, I needed to see this today

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yeah my coworker too, she was fired at like 2 months in and still got her benefits

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Here's what I don't understand about the California EDD misconduct standard - like who decides? The California EDD rep just takes both sides and makes a judgment call? What if the employer lies about what happened?

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California EDD reps are trained to evaluate the evidence from both sides and apply the legal standard for misconduct under California UI Code Section 1256. If an employer claims misconduct they need to provide documentation or specific details that support it - vague claims like 'poor performance' don't cut it. If you disagree with a California EDD decision you can appeal to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB) within 30 days of the decision letter.

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Ok that's actually reassuring that there's an appeals process. I went through something similar last year and just accepted the denial without knowing I could fight it. Really wish I'd known that.

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The 30-day window on appeals is strict so if anyone reading this got denied recently, check your letter date immediately. Missing the deadline means you lose the right to appeal even if you had a strong case.

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I want to add something about the job search requirements because no one mentioned it yet. Once you're approved for California EDD unemployment, you're required to conduct and document job searches every week - currently 3 job search activities per week. You need to log them in your weekly certification. This applies even if you're going through adjudication, starting from whenever you become eligible. Just wanted to flag it so you're not caught off guard.

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Wait I have to be actively job searching while the claim is still being processed?

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The job search requirement kicks in once your claim is approved and you start receiving benefits. During the adjudication period you don't technically need to report job searches yet, but it's good practice to start documenting them now so you have records ready. California EDD can audit your job search activity and having solid records protects you.

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YES document everything from day one. I got a random audit request 4 months into my claim asking for proof of job searches from my very first week of benefits. Thank goodness I had kept records.

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Genuine question - does it matter what kind of work you were doing or what industry you're in? Like does California EDD treat a fired retail worker differently than a fired office worker?

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The misconduct standard under California UI law applies equally regardless of industry. What changes is the context - for example, what counts as 'insubordination' might look different in a corporate environment versus a warehouse. But the fundamental legal question is the same: did the employee deliberately violate a known policy in a way that harmed the employer's interests? Industry doesn't change that standard.

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Makes sense, thanks for clarifying. I was worried that certain jobs might be treated as higher standards or something

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The one exception-ish situation is if you have professional licenses or certifications and were fired for something related to those - but even then it's still ultimately about misconduct vs. performance. Most standard terminations regardless of industry end up being evaluated the same way.

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Reading this thread because I'm in almost this exact situation and I'm scared to even file because what if the employer says I did something wrong and now it's on some record somewhere?? Like does filing for unemployment affect anything else like future job applications??

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Filing for unemployment does not show up on employment background checks or affect your job applications. It's completely separate from your employment record. Employers conducting background checks won't see that you filed a UI claim. This is a common worry but there's no reason to avoid filing just because of future job concerns.

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Oh thank god. I was seriously worried about that. I'm going to go file right now.

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Also worth knowing - if you don't file and your claim would have been approved, you're just leaving money on the table that you're legally entitled to. Always file if you think you might qualify.

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The thing that makes me so angry about California EDD is how opaque the whole process is. You file and then just... nothing. No updates, no timeline, no communication unless you can actually get someone on the phone which is basically impossible. I spent 3 weeks not knowing if my claim was active, in adjudication, or completely lost in the system.

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THIS. The UI Online portal shows basically nothing useful. Just statuses with no explanation of what they mean or what to expect next.

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For anyone in that situation where the portal is useless and you can't get through on the phone - that's exactly what Claimyr (claimyr.com) helped me with. I finally got an actual California EDD rep on the phone who explained exactly what stage my claim was at and what was needed. There's a demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see how it works before trying it.

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I ended up getting through eventually by calling right at 8am on the dot on a Tuesday but it took me probably 20+ attempts over 2 weeks before that worked. A tool that skips all that would've been incredibly useful.

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small thing but make sure when California EDD asks about your reason for separation you describe it in your own words and don't just say 'fired' or 'terminated.' Explain that you were informed your performance during the probationary period wasn't what they were looking for and that no specific misconduct was alleged. The framing matters.

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This is a really practical tip, thank you. I was just going to write 'fired' in the box and move on.

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Yeah the detail matters more than people think. California EDD reps are reading hundreds of claims and the more clearly you frame it as a non-misconduct separation, the cleaner your file looks going in.

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Agreed. I wrote about a paragraph explaining my separation in a neutral factual tone and I think it helped. No emotional language, just: this is what my role was, this is what they said when they let me go, no specific violations were cited.

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how long does it usually take to get your first payment once everything is approved? im trying to plan my budget

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After your claim is approved, there's typically a one-week unpaid waiting period (the first week you certify doesn't get paid). After that, if you certify on time each week, you should see payments deposited to your Bank of America EDD debit card or your bank account within a few days of each certification. So realistically from approval to first payment: about 1.5-2 weeks if everything goes smoothly.

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Ok that's helpful thank you. I didn't know about the unpaid waiting week. So I lose one week no matter what?

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Yes, the first week is always an unpaid waiting period in California. It's a statutory requirement. Budget around it - your benefits effectively start from week 2 after approval.

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UPDATE for anyone following this: I got my claim approved! Took about 4.5 weeks from filing. California EDD did conduct a phone interview with me, it lasted about 25 minutes. The rep asked me to describe my role, what feedback I'd received, and how the termination was communicated. My employer apparently responded to their questionnaire and said it was a performance issue during probation - no misconduct alleged. California EDD sided with me. First payment should hit my account this week. For anyone else in a similar situation - file your claim, don't assume being fired during probation means automatic denial. Thank you to everyone in this thread for the help and reassurance.

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Congrats! This is exactly how it should work. Probationary period terminations for performance are generally not misconduct and California EDD's process, while slow and frustrating, does ultimately get it right in straightforward cases like yours. Best of luck in your job search.

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So happy to see this update. This thread is going to help a lot of people who are searching this question. Congrats on the approval!

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This made my day. Still waiting on mine but seeing this gives me hope. Congrats!

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Classic California EDD outcome - takes forever but comes through. Congrats and good luck with the job hunt.

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