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How often can I apply for unemployment in California EDD?

So I got laid off from my warehouse job about two weeks ago and I'm honestly just confused about the whole California EDD system. My main question is how often can I apply for unemployment - like can I file a new claim whenever I need to, or is there some limit on how many times you can go through the system? I've had a few gaps in employment over the past couple years and I'm not sure if filing before affects my chances now. Also wondering if there's a waiting period between claims. I tried reading the EDD website but it just made me more confused. Anyone who's been through this multiple times please help!

Layoffs from warehouse work are rough, been there twice myself. So the way it works with California EDD is each claim you file is basically its own thing that runs for a year from when you filed it. The 52 weeks after you apply, that's your benefit year. When that year is up, if you're still out of work or lose another job down the line, you just file a new one. So there's no cap on how many times you can apply over your lifetime - it's not like you use up some lifetime quota. What matters each time is whether you have enough wages in those base period quarters to qualify. I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) to get a live EDD agent on the phone when I needed to sort out my second claim because my hours had been weird and I wasn't sure my wages would count right - the agent pulled up my record and told me exactly which quarters they were looking at and what my weekly amount would be. There's a video showing how reaching a live person at EDD works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. The agent confirmed my new claim was totally separate from the one I'd had two years before.

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Wait so the benefit year thing - does that mean if I filed a claim like 18 months ago and it ran out, I'm fine to file a completely new one now? Nothing from the old claim carries over or counts against me?

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Exactly that. Once a benefit year ends you're eligible to file fresh. The only thing that could trip you up is if you used up all your weeks and the year hasn't ended yet - in that case you'd have to wait for the year to close before a new claim could start.

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The benefit year thing tripped me up too my first time. I thought there was some kind of two-year waiting period between claims and I almost didn't apply. Glad I did though.

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Something people mix up a lot is thinking each time they file it's like starting over from zero in terms of approval odds. Your past claims don't make EDD more suspicious of you or anything like that. Each time they just look at your most recent base period wages - roughly the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters before you file. So if you've been working consistently and got laid off again, you just need enough wages in that window to have a valid claim.

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Okay that's actually really helpful, I was definitely worried that filing multiple times would like flag my account or something. So they're really just looking at the wages from the past year or so each time?

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Pretty much, yes. The base period looks back at your earnings from roughly a year before you filed. As long as you had steady work in that stretch and earned enough, you should be in good shape. EDD's site has a calculator that estimates your weekly amount if you want to check before you even apply.

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i thought every time you file it goes on some permanent record and hurts your chances lol. had no idea it was just about the wages each time

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Can I ask a dumb question here - when people say you can only use up a claim during its benefit year, does that mean if I only collected for like 10 weeks out of 26 and then got a job, those other 16 weeks are just gone? Like I can't save them for later?

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Not a dumb question at all, lots of people wonder this. Unfortunately yes, the remaining weeks don't roll over to your next claim or sit in a bank somewhere. Each claim has its max weeks tied to that benefit year. If you go back to work and your year hasn't ended, though, you can reopen the same claim through UI Online if that job ends - you don't file a whole new claim while the year is still running.

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Ugh okay that's what I figured. So reopening is different from refiling. Good to know before I make a mistake there.

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SAME QUESTION I had. I left like 8 weeks on the table when I got rehired and always wondered if I could get those back somehow. Answer is no, they don't save them.

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EDD's whole system is honestly designed to confuse people. I've filed three separate claims over the past six years and each time it's like learning from scratch. The portal looks different, the letters have different numbers on them, and half the phone reps give different answers. What actually stays consistent is the base period rule the person above explained. That part at least hasn't changed on me.

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Three times, wow. Did you have trouble qualifying any of those times or did it usually go pretty smoothly?

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First two were fine, got laid off both times so it was pretty clear cut. Third time I'd quit and that required a phone interview because EDD wanted to hear why. That one took longer but I eventually got approved. Just make sure you're honest and have your facts straight for the interview.

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the phone interview when you quit is no joke. they ask a lot of questions and you gotta be ready

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Agreed. I had one of those interviews and the interviewer asked very specific questions about whether I'd tried to fix the situation before quitting. The notice they mail you, the DE 4800, tells you what topics they'll ask about so read that carefully.

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Okay I want to make sure I understand the timeline thing correctly because I might be in this situation soon. If my benefit year ends, say, in March, and I'm still unemployed, do I literally just go onto myEDD and file a brand new application like I never had a claim before? Or is there some renewal process?

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You got it right - you go to https://myedd.edd.ca.gov/ and file a full new application just like the first time. There's no special renewal. EDD treats it as a completely new claim and re-calculates your weekly amount based on your most recent wages. If your work history changed you might get a different weekly amount than your last claim.

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Okay that makes sense. I was nervous there'd be some special step I'd miss. So it's really just the same application process from the start.

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The confusing part for me was that when I filed my second claim the weekly amount was actually higher than my first because I'd gotten a raise before the layoff. So the base period really does matter a lot for what you end up getting each week.

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Quick thing nobody mentioned yet - what about the waiting week? Do you have to serve another unpaid waiting week every time you file a new claim, or just once ever?

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Every new claim has its own waiting week - it's the first week you're eligible but it doesn't get paid. So yes, each time you file a fresh claim you'll serve one unpaid week at the start. The good news is it doesn't eat into your total weeks of benefits, it's separate from your 26 weeks.

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Ugh okay. That's annoying but at least it's just one week per claim and not some longer thing.

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I didn't even know about the waiting week, glad this came up. So my first certified weeks will cover the waiting week and then one actual paid week?

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Exactly. That first certification usually covers both - the waiting week shows as served and then the second week gets paid. After that you're just certifying every two weeks normally.

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Had a weird situation where I lost my job, filed, got a new job after three months, that job folded after four months, and I had to figure out what to do. Because my original benefit year hadn't ended yet I reopened the existing claim instead of filing new. Saved me a ton of time actually because all my info was already there.

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How did you reopen it, was it just a button in UI Online?

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Yes, there's an option right in UI Online to reopen a claim. It's faster than starting from scratch and they don't re-verify everything. Just make sure the benefit year is still open when you try.

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oh this is exactly what could happen to me right now, my job has been super unstable. good to know reopening is an option instead of filing all over again

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One thing worth knowing for anyone who's filed before and is coming back to certify again - the CalJOBS registration requirement applies to new claims too. When EDD sends you the notice about registering in CalJOBS after your new claim, you have to do it within 21 days or it can hold up your payments. I got burned by this on my second claim because I assumed since I'd registered before I was still good. I wasn't - EDD wanted a current registration with an updated resume.

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Oh wow I did not realize CalJOBS resets or needs to be redone each time. So even if I registered two years ago for my last claim I'd need to do it fresh?

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Based on what happened to me, yes. EDD sends you a notice - I think it's the DE 8405 - and that tells you if you need to register and by when. Don't ignore that one.

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Had the same experience. The DE 8405 is what triggers it. If you don't get that notice EDD might have waived it for you, but if you do get it, treat it like a deadline.

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My layoff from a construction company last year was my second time filing with California EDD and I genuinely didn't know my claim would look different from the first. The weekly amount came out higher, the max benefit amount was different, and there was a new ID.me verification step I didn't remember from before. EDD clearly updated stuff between my claims. When my payments sat as Pending for two weeks after I certified I used Claimyr to get through to an EDD rep - found out there was an identity verification step that hadn't cleared yet. Once I confirmed my ID.me was linked properly the pending weeks released in a few days.

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The ID.me thing sounds like it could catch a lot of returning claimants off guard. So even if you verified your identity on a past claim you have to do it again?

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In my case yes. ID.me may already have your info but EDD still needs to confirm the link on the new claim. The agent explained that my account showed the verification as incomplete on their end even though I thought I'd done it.

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Pending weeks because of ID.me is so stressful. At least you got an actual answer about what was holding it up.

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Another thing that tripped me up filing for the third time - I'd moved counties between my last claim and this one. Didn't think it mattered since it's all California EDD, same state. But make sure your address in myEDD is current before you apply because they mail important notices like the DE 429Z to whatever address is on file.

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Good call, I actually moved apartments recently. I'll update my address before I even start the application.

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Yeah definitely do it first. Missing the DE 429Z because it went to an old address would be a headache since that letter shows your weekly benefit amount and you have 30 days to appeal it if something looks wrong.

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I'd also double check the info on the DE 429Z when it arrives. My first claim had a quarter of wages missing and my weekly amount was lower than it should have been. You really do need to appeal that within 30 days if the number seems off.

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ok genuine question - can you apply for unemployment if you're already collecting disability through SDI? like if the disability ends and you're still not back to work?

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You can't get unemployment and disability at the same time for the same days - EDD is pretty clear about that. But if your disability period ends and you're recovered and able to work again, you could then file for unemployment if you're still out of a job. The key is unemployment requires you to be able and available to work for every week you certify, so you can't be collecting it while you're medically unable to work.

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oh okay so they don't overlap but you can transition from one to the other. that makes sense actually

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The transition part is what gets confusing. You stop certifying for unemployment when the disability starts, then when you're able to work again you'd go back to unemployment - either reopen if the year is still open or file new.

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Does anyone know if there's a limit to how many total claims you can file over your whole lifetime? Like say someone has had seven or eight layoffs over 20 years, is there some point where EDD says sorry you've used this too many times?

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There's no lifetime cap on how many times you can file. Each claim stands on its own - EDD looks at whether you have qualifying wages in that claim's base period and whether you lost work through no fault of your own. Someone who's had a dozen layoffs over 30 years can still file a valid claim if the wages are there.

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That's honestly a relief to hear. I always had this vague worry in the back of my head that I was 'using up' my shot at unemployment.

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A lot of people think that. The whole system is funded by what employers pay in, not by any personal account you're drawing down. You haven't paid into it yourself - it's the employer's tax. So there's nothing to 'run out of' on your end.

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Wait I want to go back to the CalJOBS thing someone brought up. I'm about to file my second claim and I never properly finished my CalJOBS profile the first time around because I got a job before the deadline hit. Am I going to have issues?

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If the new claim triggers the DE 8405 you'll want to get CalJOBS done properly this time, including posting a resume. The 21-day window from the notice date is real and EDD can hold up payments if you miss it. I'd just go to caljobs.ca.gov and make sure your profile is complete and your resume is current before that clock runs out.

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Okay got it, I'll get on CalJOBS right away when I see the notice. Better to do it early than scramble at the end.

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Don't wait for the deadline to sneak up. I did mine on day 19 and it was weirdly stressful even though I made it in time.

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Something that confused me on my second claim was the base period math. I had gotten a significant raise about six months before my layoff but my weekly benefit amount came out lower than I expected. Turns out the raise was so recent that it fell outside the standard base period - EDD was looking at wages from earlier quarters before the raise kicked in.

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That's a really common frustration. The standard base period looks at the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters, so very recent wages often fall outside it. EDD will automatically try the alternate base period - the most recent four completed quarters - but only if the standard one doesn't produce a valid claim at all. It won't bump up your weekly amount on a claim that already qualifies.

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Yeah that's exactly what happened. My claim was valid under the standard period so the alternate didn't apply. Frustrating but at least I understood it after.

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This is so confusing the way EDD calculates it. I went in thinking my recent higher wages would mean a higher weekly check and then got surprised when it wasn't.

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My second claim took way longer to process than my first. Same basic situation both times - laid off, no severance, no dispute from the employer. But the first time I got my payment within about three weeks of filing and the second time I was stuck on Pending for over five weeks. Never figured out why.

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EDD processing times seem to vary a lot and there's not always a clear reason. Identity verification, random selection for additional review, backlogs at certain times of year - any of those can slow things down. If you're ever past that three-week window with no movement, it's worth trying to reach a live agent to find out if something specific is holding your claim.

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I eventually got through on the phone after a lot of tries. The agent said there had been a flag on my account that needed manual review and they cleared it while I was on the line. Never did explain what triggered the flag in the first place.

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Five weeks of Pending with no explanation sounds absolutely brutal. I would have been panicking by week two.

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Genuine scenario I need help thinking through - I'm currently collecting on a claim that started about nine months ago. I got a part-time gig and I've been reporting my earnings when I certify. If that part-time job ends and I still have weeks left on my current claim, do I just keep certifying as if nothing changed, or do I need to do something else?

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Keep certifying - you don't need to file anything new or reopen anything as long as your benefit year is still open and you haven't exhausted your weeks. When that part-time income stops you just report zero earnings on your next certification and your full weekly benefit amount would be what you're eligible for again, based on your ability and availability to work.

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Oh that's simpler than I thought. I was afraid there'd be some special step to 'reactivate' the full benefit or something.

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The only time you'd need to reopen is if you actually closed the claim at some point. As long as you've kept certifying through the part-time work you're just continuing the same claim.

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I lost a customer service job back in the spring and my EDD claim had a question mark hanging over it for weeks because my employer disputed the reason for separation. I eventually got through to a live agent using Claimyr - my Claim History in UI Online had shown Pending for so long I didn't know if EDD had even received the employer's response. The agent told me the interview was scheduled and the date and time were on the DE 4800 I'd been mailed, which I had honestly skimmed and not read carefully enough. Once I knew what to watch for the process made a lot more sense.

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I keep seeing people mention the DE 4800 and I want to make sure I know what I'm looking at - that's the notice that tells you the date and time of your phone interview with EDD?

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Yes exactly. It has the specific date and time the interviewer will phone you, and it lists the topics they plan to cover. You need to have your phone available at that exact time. If you have to reschedule you need to contact EDD at least a day ahead.

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I almost missed my interview time because I looked at the DE 4800 and saw the date but somehow missed the specific time. Keep your phone on and volume up for the whole window they give.

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I want to flag something that came up earlier that wasn't quite right. Someone mentioned that the alternate base period can get you a higher weekly amount. But the way it actually works is EDD only uses the alternate base period when the standard one doesn't produce a valid claim at all - and even then it won't increase your weekly amount above what the standard period would have given if it had been valid. It's really just a fallback to get you a valid claim, not a tool to maximize your weekly check.

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Yeah this is what someone explained to me too. I'd heard from a friend that I could 'request' the alternate base period to get a bigger weekly amount and that was just wrong. EDD files it automatically if it applies and only if the standard one fails.

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The myth that you can request the alternate period to get more money is everywhere. I've heard it at two different jobs. Good to see it corrected here.

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Worth saying clearly: no agent will tell you the alternate base period will raise your weekly amount on a claim that already qualifies under the standard period. If someone says that, they heard it from another claimant, not EDD policy.

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DE 429Z arrived in my mailbox on the second claim and my wages from a brief temp job were missing entirely. The number looked way too low. What I should have done right away was appeal within 30 days - I didn't, I just accepted the low amount. By the time I figured out it was wrong the 30-day window had closed and I was stuck with the lower weekly amount for the whole claim.

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That's such an expensive mistake. So the DE 429Z is not just an informational letter, it's something you need to review carefully and appeal if the numbers are off?

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Exactly. I made the mistake of thinking it was just a form letter. It has your actual weekly benefit amount and your maximum benefit amount. If wages are missing or the number seems wrong compared to what you actually earned in those quarters, appeal right away in writing within 30 days of the mailing date.

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Lost money I deserved on a previous claim for the exact same reason. Now any letter from EDD gets read line by line before I do anything else.

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Even if you think you know roughly what your amount should be, verify it against the EDD benefit calculator on their site before you assume the DE 429Z is right.

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Severance pay situation here - my company did a big layoff and offered a package. I've heard conflicting things about whether having severance means you can't file for unemployment until it runs out, or whether you file right away and just report it.

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File right away - severance paid under a company plan or policy isn't treated as wages for unemployment purposes, so it doesn't block you from collecting. You do report it when EDD's certification asks about income you received, and EDD makes the final call on how it affects your specific weeks. But you don't need to wait until the severance is gone before filing.

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Okay that's what I was hoping. I was so afraid to file while I was still getting the severance checks in case it caused problems.

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I had the exact same question when I got a package. Was so relieved when I found out you don't have to wait it out before you even apply.

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One more thing for the original poster - when you do file, have your last employer's full mailing address, your start and end dates there, and a clear picture of exactly why the job ended ready before you start the online application. The layoff part is straightforward but EDD still asks for specific dates and addresses and scrambling to find them mid-application is annoying. Also line up all your employers from the last 18 months, not just the most recent one.

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18 months back, good to know. I was just planning to list my most recent job. I had a short contract gig about 14 months ago that I'd almost forgotten about.

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Include it. EDD uses all your wages from that 18-month stretch to determine your base period, so a quarter you leave out could affect your weekly amount calculation even if you didn't earn much at that job.

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The application also asks for your last employer's reason for the separation from their perspective, not just yours. For a layoff it's simple, but be accurate about the wording - use 'lack of work' or 'position eliminated' rather than anything vague.

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The taxes side of this tripped me up the first time - I didn't realize my unemployment benefits were going to show up as taxable income on my federal return. By the time the Form 1099G arrived in January I hadn't set anything aside. On my second claim I turned on the 10 percent federal withholding option when I certified so I wasn't surprised at tax time.

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Wait so California EDD benefits are taxed? I had no idea. Is it both federal and state?

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Federal yes, California state no. So you'll owe federal income tax on whatever you collected but not state. Setting up the withholding at 10 percent each certification period is the simplest way to avoid a surprise bill in April.

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I forgot to set up withholding on my first claim and owed more than I expected. It's not a huge amount for a few weeks of benefits but it adds up if you're on it for several months.

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Someone at work told me her cousin had filed for unemployment five times and that after the third time EDD put her on some kind of watch list and denied everything automatically. I'm on my second claim and now I'm paranoid. Is that actually a real thing?

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Not a real thing. There's no watch list that automatically denies people based on how many times they've filed. EDD looks at each claim individually - your wages, how the job ended, whether you're meeting the requirements like being able to work and looking for work. Someone with multiple denials likely had issues with the qualifying wages or the reason for separation on those specific claims, not with the number itself.

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Thank you, that actually takes a huge weight off. I was genuinely dreading my second claim for no reason then.

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I had the same worry going into claim number two. EDD doesn't punish you for using the system, that's literally what it's there for.

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My benefits on my current claim ran out last month and my benefit year closes in about six weeks. Am I stuck with nothing until the year officially ends, or is there any extension I can try to apply for?

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After 26 weeks there's no automatic extension available right now - Extended Benefits only kick in when unemployment rates hit certain federal or state thresholds and those conditions aren't being met. The California Training Benefits program is worth looking into if you're enrolled or thinking about enrolling in EDD-approved training or school - it could allow you to keep collecting without the work search requirement and may add weeks. But you'd need to apply before your 16th week of benefits, so that window may already be closed for your current claim.

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The 16-week window already passed so the training option won't help for this claim. Good to know about it for next time though. I'll just wait the six weeks for the year to end and file a new claim if I still haven't found work.

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Filing the new claim the day after your benefit year ends is probably the smart move so you don't lose any potential benefit days.

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