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EDD unemployment eligibility for school employees during summer break?

I just started working at an elementary school as a classroom aide this past September. We're about to break for summer and I won't be getting any paychecks during June, July, and part of August. The HR lady mentioned something about not being eligible for unemployment during the summer months if we have "reasonable assurance" of returning in fall. But I'm struggling financially and really need some income during these months. Has anyone successfully filed for EDD benefits while working for a school district? My contract says I'm expected back in August but doesn't guarantee it. Would this qualify? Any advice would be really appreciated as my rent is $2300 and I have no idea how I'll manage without income for 2+ months.

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but school employees generally dont qualify for unemployment during scheduled breaks like summer if you have reasonable assurance of returning. Its called the "school employee provision" and its a huge pain. I work as a cafeteria supervisor and tried last year...got denied immediately. The EDD automatically checks with school districts about your employment status.

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Ugh, that's really frustrating. Did they define what "reasonable assurance" actually means? My contract just says they "expect" me back, but with budget cuts happening, nothing feels guaranteed.

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Mei Chen

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This is a common question for school employees. The key issue here is "reasonable assurance." If your contract states you're expected to return but doesn't guarantee your position, you might have a case. California Educational Code section 1253.3 covers this. You should apply anyway - worst case they deny you. If you apply, make sure to clearly explain that your return isn't guaranteed due to potential budget cuts or staffing changes. The burden is actually on the school district to prove you have reasonable assurance. Some situations where school employees can qualify: 1. Your exact position might not exist next year 2. Your hours might be significantly reduced 3. You're on a contingent contract dependent on enrollment/funding Keep any emails or documents showing uncertainty about your position.

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Thank you so much for the detailed explanation! I'll definitely apply and mention the uncertainty around my position. Our principal did send an email about potential staffing adjustments based on next year's enrollment, so maybe that will help my case.

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CosmicCadet

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apply anyway!!!!! i work as a crossing guard and got benefits last summer even tho everyone said i wouldnt qualify. the worst they can say is no right?? just be honest about everything

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Liam O'Connor

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The whole "reasonable assurance" thing is SUCH A SCAM designed to save the districts money! They string you along with vague promises so you don't look for other work, then claim you can't get benefits because you're "coming back" - but they don't have to PAY YOU during summer!! I've been fighting this system for YEARS as a part-time music teacher. The districts coordinate with EDD to automatically reject school employee claims without even reviewing individual circumstances. It's INFURIATING!

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Amara Adeyemi

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This!! I had the same experience. And even when you DO qualify, the school districts sometimes automatically contest it. My position as a special ed aide was eliminated due to budget cuts, but they still tried claiming I had "reasonable assurance" when I clearly didn't!

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I successfully navigated this situation last year. Here's what worked for me: 1. File for unemployment as soon as your last day of work arrives 2. When they ask if you have reasonable assurance, be honest about any uncertainty 3. Provide any documentation showing your position isn't 100% guaranteed (emails about budget cuts, enrollment concerns, etc.) 4. If denied, immediately file an appeal and request a hearing The key is to focus on why your situation might be different from the standard school employee scenario. In my hearing, I emphasized that my special education aide position was dependent on specific student enrollment that wasn't guaranteed. Also, if you can't reach EDD by phone (which is likely), I recommend using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They got me connected to an EDD agent within 20 minutes when I couldn't get through for weeks. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km - it saved me so much frustration during the appeal process.

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This is really helpful, thank you! I'll definitely try Claimyr if I have trouble reaching someone. Did you have to provide any specific documents for your appeal hearing?

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Yes! Bring everything you have - emails about staffing uncertainty, your contract showing it's not a guarantee, documentation of any budget discussions. I even brought attendance records showing declining enrollment in my classroom area. The more evidence you have that your return isn't 100% certain, the better your chances.

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wait wait wait i'm confused...is this about california PTO or unemployment benefits? because those r totally different things. PTO you get from ur employer but unemployment is from the govt when ur not working. which one r u asking about???

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I'm asking about unemployment benefits from EDD. I won't be working over summer break (and won't be getting paid), so I'm trying to figure out if I can get unemployment during that time.

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oh ok that makes more sense. i thought maybe u were talking about getting vacation time pay from the school lol. good luck with the EDD stuff!!

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CosmicCadet

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anybody know how long it takes to get approved if they do let school workers claim? i might be in the same boat next month

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For school employees, it often takes longer because the EDD automatically contacts your district to verify your status. In my experience, it took about 3-4 weeks, and that was after I had to appeal the initial denial.

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Amara Adeyemi

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I was in your exact situation last year! Work for a school district too. Applied for unemployment and got denied, BUT then I appealed and got approved! The key was proving I didn't have 100% guaranteed employment in fall. My principal had sent an email saying staffing would depend on enrollment numbers, and that was enough to win my appeal. Don't give up!

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Liam O'Connor

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Here's what nobody tells you - EDD automatically flags ALL school employee claims and sends them to a special review process. They'll send you a questionnaire specifically about reasonable assurance. The SECOND they see you're a school employee, you get shunted into this separate system. Such BS! They've already decided to deny you before even reviewing your specific case!

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Mei Chen

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This is partially accurate but needs clarification. EDD does have specific procedures for school employees under the "school employee provision" (California UI Code Section 1253.3), but each case is evaluated individually. While the process is indeed more rigorous for school employees, it's not an automatic denial. The additional scrutiny exists because traditionally, school breaks are considered planned non-working periods rather than unexpected job loss.

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