< Back to California Unemployment

School bus driver unemployment during summer break - EDD eligibility confusion

I'm a school bus driver in Oakland and this will be my first summer without income. I'm trying to figure out if I qualify for unemployment during the summer break when school is out. The EDD website has me totally confused - one section seems to say school employees can't get benefits during scheduled breaks, but another part mentions something about 'reasonable assurance' and exceptions? I've been with the district for 3 years and have a letter saying I'll be back in August, but nothing is ever guaranteed these days. Anyone successfully navigate this situation before? The bills don't take summer vacation and I'm getting worried!

Carmen Flores

•

I went through this exact situation last summer. From what I understand (and what worked for me), school employees CAN file for unemployment during breaks, but whether you qualify depends on if you have 'reasonable assurance' of returning to your position. Even with your letter, you might still qualify if your hours or pay will be reduced when you return. The key is being 100% honest on your application about your situation - including that letter from your district. If you're struggling to get through to EDD for clarification (I was on hold for HOURS), I finally used a service called Claimyr that got me connected to an EDD rep in about 20 minutes. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km. Totally worth it because the EDD rep explained exactly how to handle my school bus driver situation.

0 coins

Yuki Sato

•

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! Did you have to send in your reasonable assurance letter to EDD or just mention it on the application? I'm definitely going to check out that Claimyr service - spending hours listening to hold music is NOT how I want to start my summer break.

0 coins

Andre Dubois

•

This is a common misconception! School employees WITH reasonable assurance (your letter) generally DON'T qualify for unemployment during scheduled recess periods (summer, winter, spring breaks). Education Code section 1253.3 specifically addresses this. However, there are exceptions: 1. If you work for a private company that contracts with schools (not directly for the district) 2. If you perform non-academic functions (which bus drivers often do) 3. If you won't earn the same pay when returning You should still apply because your specific situation might qualify under one of the exceptions. Be prepared for them to initially deny your claim though - many school employees need to appeal.

0 coins

CyberSamurai

•

My cousin drives a school bus and they just apply every summer. Sometimes they get it sometimes they dont but always worth trying!!!!

0 coins

THE WHOLE REASONABLE ASSURANCE THING IS A JOKE!!! I've been a school bus driver for 12 YEARS and EDD has jerked me around EVERY SINGLE SUMMER. One year they approve me, next year they deny me with the EXACT SAME CIRCUMSTANCES. It's like they flip a coin!! They'll make you jump through hoops, request additional documents, and then 9 weeks later when school is almost starting again they'll finally make a decision. Don't count on this money for summer bills!!! And don't bother calling - you'll get a different answer from every rep you talk to. The system is BROKEN for school employees!!!

0 coins

Yuki Sato

•

Wow, that's really discouraging to hear :( I was hoping there would be a straightforward answer. Maybe I should just try to find temporary summer work instead of dealing with all this uncertainty.

0 coins

Jamal Carter

•

The key distinction EDD makes for school employees is between "reasonable assurance" versus "guaranteed reemployment." Most districts issue letters that only provide reasonable assurance, not guarantees. In my experience helping my wife (school cafeteria worker), we learned that bus drivers often have better luck qualifying because: 1. Many districts have summer school/summer programs that still need some drivers 2. The reasonable assurance letters typically don't guarantee the same number of hours 3. Bus drivers can argue their specialized skills differ from teachers/educational staff Make sure you certify every two weeks even while waiting for a determination. If approved, you'll get backpay for those weeks.

0 coins

Mei Liu

•

ya this is right about the certification part for sure. my neighbor does schools grounds crew & forgot to certify one summer while his claim was pending and lost 2 weeks pay when it finally got approved

0 coins

I went back to read section 1253.3 of the unemployment code and it's definitely confusing! What it says is basically: if you work for an educational institution and have reasonable assurance of returning after the break, you usually CAN'T collect benefits. But then there's a bunch of exceptions and special cases. Ugh. Have you tried calling the special school employees unemployment line? I think its a different number. If your district uses contractors for bussing (like First Student or something) instead of employing drivers directly, different rules might apply too.

0 coins

Special school employees line?? 😂😂😂 THERE IS NO SPECIAL LINE! It's all the same impossible-to-reach EDD system no matter what kind of claim you have. I've been trying for YEARS and it's always the same runaround.

0 coins

Jamal Carter

•

One important thing other comments haven't mentioned: if you worked ANY non-school jobs during your base period, you might qualify for a claim based on those earnings instead. EDD looks at your highest-earning quarter in the 18 months before filing. For example, if you did any other paid work (even part-time) outside the school district during that period, those wages might be enough to establish a claim that isn't subject to the educational employee restrictions. Also, definitely apply regardless. The worst they can do is deny you, and even if they initially deny the claim, you can appeal if you think they misapplied the rules to your situation.

0 coins

Yuki Sato

•

That's really helpful info! I did some weekend delivery work for DoorDash last fall for about 2 months. I didn't make much (maybe $1,800 total), but maybe that would help my case? I'll definitely include that on my application.

0 coins

CyberSamurai

•

just apply anyway!! my sis works at a school in the office and she gets unemployment every summer they cant keep denying us when we need to eat too

0 coins

Andre Dubois

•

This is actually not accurate advice. Different staff positions have different rules. Office staff and administrative positions are treated differently than instructional or student service positions under EDD regulations. Whether someone gets approved or denied should be based on their specific role and circumstances, not just by applying repeatedly.

0 coins

Carmen Flores

•

Just wanted to follow up and say that when I finally got through to EDD using Claimyr, the agent told me that having summer work lined up helps your case. She said even picking up part-time summer work shows you're available and looking for work during the break. The key is not having guaranteed summer work from the school district itself. So if you can find any other job, even temporary, it might actually help your unemployment claim rather than hurt it.

0 coins

Yuki Sato

•

Thanks for the update! I actually just applied for a summer position with Parks & Rec driving for their summer camp program. Hopefully that works out, but if not, at least it shows I'm actively looking for work during the break period. I appreciate everyone's advice on this!

0 coins

TaxRefund AI

Expert Assistant
Secure

Powered by Claimyr AI

T
I
+
6,617 users helped today