EDD denied my appeal twice - how to get overpayment waiver when rep says it's only sent once?
I'm at my wits' end with this EDD situation. Both of my appeals were denied and my regular UI benefits from 2022 were completely disqualified. I've gone through all the letters they've sent, and none of them specifically mention 'fraud' anywhere, which makes me think I might qualify for an overpayment waiver. After 17 attempts, I finally got through to an EDD representative yesterday. What she told me has me even more confused - she claimed that overpayment waivers are only sent ONCE and can never be sent again. Is this actually true?? I don't remember ever receiving a waiver form in the mail, but with how much paperwork EDD sends, it's possible I missed it. The rep also said my overpayment hasn't even "posted" in their system yet, and I just need to wait for "next steps" - whatever that means. When I directly asked if my disqualification was considered fraud or non-fraud, she couldn't (or wouldn't) tell me! My last appeal was denied back in November 2024, so it's been over 4 months of this limbo. I'm drowning in anxiety about potentially owing thousands back. How can I determine if my disqualification is considered fraud or non-fraud? Has anyone successfully gotten a waiver for non-fraud overpayments? Any guidance would be hugely appreciated.
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Zoe Stavros
The rep gave you incorrect information. Overpayment waivers are NOT "only sent once ever." That's completely false. The EDD can and does issue waiver applications whenever someone has a non-fraud overpayment. Here's what you need to do: 1. Request your claim records through a formal records request to see exactly how your disqualification is coded 2. If there's no mention of fraud or false statement disqualifications (Section 1257(a) of UI code), you likely have a non-fraud overpayment 3. Specifically request the DE 1446 form (overpayment waiver application) 4. Submit the application with documentation of financial hardship The "hasn't posted yet" comment means they haven't finalized the overpayment amount in their system. Once it posts, you'll receive an official overpayment notice with the exact amount they claim you owe.
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Andre Moreau
•Thank you so much for this information! This makes much more sense than what the rep told me. Do you know the best way to submit a records request? Should I call again or is there a form I can fill out online?
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Jamal Harris
omg EDD is the WORST ugh!! i went thru similar nightmare last yr when they said i owed $5k back. kept telling me different things every time i called. one lady even hung up on me!! 😡 my disqual wasnt fraud either but took FOREVER to get that stupid waiver form
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Andre Moreau
•That sounds horrible! Did you eventually get the waiver? And did they make you wait for the overpayment to "post" before they'd send it to you?
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Jamal Harris
•ya i got it eventually but had to call like 50 times!! my overpayment was already posted tho so maybe thats why? idk its all confusing. just keep bugging them trust me
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Mei Chen
The distinction between fraud and non-fraud overpayments is critical in your situation. Here are key indicators to help determine your status: Fraud disqualifications usually involve: - Section 1257(a) of UI code citations in decision letters - Language about "willful misrepresentation" or "false statements" - 30% penalties added to the overpayment amount - Potential 2-5 year disqualification from future benefits Non-fraud disqualifications: - Usually Section 1253 violations (eligibility issues) - No penalty percentages added - Language about "not meeting eligibility requirements" If your notices don't mention fraud explicitly and there's no penalty percentage, you likely have a non-fraud overpayment, which is potentially waivable. Request all your claim documents in writing. The "not posted" status simply means they haven't calculated the final amount yet.
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Liam Sullivan
•This is really helpful, but I'd add that sometimes even if they don't explicitly say "fraud," certain code sections effectively mean the same thing. I had a section 1257(a) disqualification and was told it was considered fraud even though they never used that exact word in my paperwork. EDD terminology can be deliberately vague sometimes.
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Amara Okafor
Try calling using Claimyr (claimyr.com) - they got me through to EDD in 15 minutes when I was dealing with my overpayment nightmare. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10?si=TSwYbu_GOwYzt9km I was in the same boat - denied appeals and confusing info about overpayments. When I finally got through, I specifically asked for a tier 2 specialist who actually knew the rules about waivers and helped me get the proper forms. Regular reps often give wrong information, so keep trying until you get someone who actually knows the policies.
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Andre Moreau
•Thank you for this recommendation! I'll check out that service. Did you specifically ask for a tier 2 specialist as soon as you got through? I didn't even know that was an option.
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Amara Okafor
•Yes! As soon as a regular rep answers, politely say you need to speak with a tier 2 specialist about overpayment waivers. Some might try to handle it themselves, but insist that your situation requires a specialist. The regular reps often don't have full training on the waiver process.
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CosmicCommander
I had 2 disquals in 2023 & waited almost 6 months for my overpayment to "post" - edd system is SO SLOW!!!!! fyi the DE 1446 form isnt on their website u have to call and request it specifically. the rep told me its only for hardship cases but thats NOT TRUE at all! any non-fraud can be waived if paying back would be "against equity and good conscience" (their actual words lol). dont let them tell u different!!
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Jamal Harris
•omg yes!! they tried to tell me the same thing!!! the first 2 reps i talked to said i didn't qualify for a waiver but the 3rd one sent me the form right away. its like they dont even know their own rules 🙄
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Giovanni Colombo
The rep you spoke with was giving you incorrect information. I work in legal aid, and I can tell you definitively that overpayment waivers are not a one-time-only thing. The process works like this: 1. EDD makes a final determination on your eligibility (which has happened with your appeals) 2. EDD calculates the overpayment amount (this is the "posting" phase you're waiting for) 3. Once the amount posts, they send you a Notice of Overpayment 4. At that point, you can request a waiver using form DE 1446 The reason you haven't received the waiver application yet is because your overpayment hasn't been officially established in their system. Once you receive the actual Notice of Overpayment with a specific dollar amount, you can then request the waiver form. Regarding the fraud/non-fraud distinction: check your disqualification notices for any mention of Section 1257(a) or language about "false statements" or "misrepresentation." If these are absent, you likely have a non-fraud overpayment eligible for waiver consideration.
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Andre Moreau
•Thank you so much for this detailed explanation! I just double-checked my disqualification notice and it mentions Section 1253(a) regarding availability for work, but nothing about false statements or 1257. That sounds like it would be non-fraud, right? Do you know roughly how long it typically takes for an overpayment to "post" after appeals are exhausted?
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Giovanni Colombo
•Yes, Section 1253(a) is an eligibility issue (not being available for work), not a fraud issue. That's good news because it means you should be eligible for a waiver. Unfortunately, the timeline for overpayments to post is extremely variable - I've seen it take anywhere from 1-8 months. EDD is still working through a backlog of cases. Once you get the Notice of Overpayment, immediately request the DE 1446 waiver form.
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Liam Sullivan
I went through this EXACT situation last year. Here's what I learned the hard way: 1. Most EDD phone reps DON'T know the correct procedures for overpayment waivers 2. The waiver form (DE 1446) isn't automatically sent - you have to specifically request it 3. You can't get the waiver until after your overpayment officially "posts" and you get the formal notice 4. Non-fraud overpayments can be waived if repayment would cause extraordinary hardship The fact that none of your letters mention fraud is a good sign. Check for any reference to "willful" misrepresentation or false statements. If those aren't there, you likely have a non-fraud overpayment. My advice: keep calling until you get someone knowledgeable. Ask specifically about your disqualification reason and whether it's considered fraud. Don't take "I don't know" for an answer.
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Andre Moreau
•Thank you for sharing your experience! It's frustrating that their own reps don't seem to know their policies. Did your waiver end up getting approved? And about how long did the whole process take from appeal denial to resolution?
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Liam Sullivan
•Yes, my waiver was approved, but it took about 9 months total from appeal denial to final resolution. The most frustrating part was waiting for the overpayment to "post" - that took almost 5 months alone. Then another 4 months for them to review my waiver application. Keep detailed records of all communications and be persistent!
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Diez Ellis
I'm so sorry you're going through this - the misinformation from EDD reps is incredibly frustrating! Based on what you've described, that representative was completely wrong about waivers being "only sent once." Here's what I'd recommend as your next steps: 1. Document everything - keep records of all calls, dates, and what each rep tells you 2. While waiting for your overpayment to post, start gathering financial hardship documentation (pay stubs, bills, bank statements) 3. When you call again, specifically ask to speak with a Tier 2 specialist about overpayment waivers 4. Request your complete claim file to review exactly how your disqualification is coded The fact that your letters don't mention fraud is promising - most non-fraud overpayments are potentially waivable. Since your disqualification was in 2022 and appeal denied in November 2024, you're definitely in the typical timeframe for overpayments to still be processing. Don't let them discourage you! Many people have successfully obtained waivers for non-fraud overpayments. The key is persistence and getting the right person who actually knows the procedures. Hang in there!
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Rosie Harper
•This is such helpful advice, thank you! I've been feeling so overwhelmed by all the conflicting information. I'm definitely going to start documenting everything from now on - I should have been doing that from the beginning. Do you happen to know what specific financial documents are most important for the hardship application? I want to make sure I have everything ready when the time comes.
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Kendrick Webb
That EDD rep definitely gave you wrong information! I went through something very similar in 2023 - multiple appeals denied, confusing info from reps, the whole nightmare. Here's what I wish I had known earlier: The "only sent once" thing about waivers is completely false. I actually got my waiver form twice because I lost the first one in all the EDD paperwork chaos! Since your letters don't mention fraud, you're probably looking at a non-fraud overpayment which is good news for waiver eligibility. The key things to look for are: - No mention of "willful misrepresentation" - No Section 1257(a) citations - No penalty percentages (like 30% added to the base amount) The waiting for it to "post" is unfortunately normal - mine took about 4 months after my final appeal was denied. It's maddening but that's just how slow their system is. My biggest advice: start preparing now even while you wait. Gather bank statements, pay stubs, monthly expenses, anything that shows financial hardship. When you finally get that overpayment notice, you'll want to request the DE 1446 form immediately and be ready to submit it with all your documentation. Don't give up! The system is broken but waivers do get approved for people in your situation.
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Giovanni Mancini
•Thank you for sharing your experience! It's reassuring to hear from someone who actually got through this process successfully. The "only sent once" thing really had me panicking because I was worried I might have missed my only chance. Can I ask - when you submitted your DE 1446 with all the financial documentation, how long did it take for them to make a decision on your waiver? And did they ask for any additional information after you submitted it?
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