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Mei Wong

Can you get unemployment when fired in California? EDD claim approved after termination

So I got terminated from my job at a distribution warehouse about three weeks ago and I honestly wasn't sure if I even qualified to file with California EDD. My supervisor called it 'termination for cause' on my last day paperwork but the actual situation was way more complicated than that. I had been dealing with some scheduling conflicts after my hours got changed without notice and I missed a couple of shifts because of it. I filed my UI claim anyway figuring I had nothing to lose, and now I'm sitting in adjudication wondering if I made a mistake. Does anyone know if you can actually collect unemployment in California when you were fired? I keep reading contradictory stuff online. Some places say if you were fired for cause you automatically get denied, other places say it depends on the reason. I've worked at this company for 4 years, paid into the system the whole time, so I feel like I should have some recourse here. Has anyone gotten approved after being fired in California?

Yes you absolutely can get unemployment in California when you're fired - the key is WHY you were fired. California EDD doesn't automatically disqualify you just because your employer called it 'termination for cause.' What matters is whether the reason constitutes 'misconduct' under California unemployment law. Missing shifts due to a schedule change your employer made without notice is very different from intentionally violating company policy. You have a legitimate argument here.

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Mei Wong

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That's really good to hear. So how does EDD actually determine this? Does someone review my side of the story or just take what my employer says?

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Both sides get to present their version. When your claim goes into adjudication, California EDD sends questionnaires to both you and your former employer. Fill yours out thoroughly and explain exactly what happened with the schedule change - dates, who changed it, whether you were notified, everything. Documentation is huge here.

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this is accurate. i was fired 'for cause' two years ago and got approved after adjudication. took about 5 weeks but they sided with me because my employer couldn't prove i knowingly violated policy

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The legal standard California EDD uses is whether your actions showed a 'willful or wanton disregard' for your employer's interests. Honest mistakes, misunderstandings, or even poor performance generally don't meet that bar. What you're describing - missing shifts because your schedule was changed without proper notice - really doesn't sound like misconduct to me. Make sure you document everything when you respond to the adjudication questionnaire.

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Mei Wong

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I do have texts from my group chat showing the schedule was changed day-of with less than 8 hours notice. Will that kind of thing actually help in adjudication?

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Absolutely keep those texts. Screenshot everything. Adjudication at California EDD can go either way and evidence matters a lot. You'll want to reference those messages specifically when you respond to their questionnaire.

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omg yes the texts are literally everything. saved my claim last year

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When I was going through adjudication after getting fired I could not get through to anyone at California EDD to ask basic questions about my claim status. Spent probably 6 hours across different days just getting busy signals or disconnected. Someone here actually recommended Claimyr to me and it was a total game changer. You go to claimyr.com and it basically handles the hold queue for you and gets an EDD agent on the line. There's a video walkthrough at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that explains how it works. I used it to actually talk to someone about my adjudication status and got real answers instead of just staring at my UI Online portal hoping it would update.

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Mei Wong

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Six hours and still no answer?? That's wild. I've tried calling twice already and gave up after 45 minutes each time. I'll check out that Claimyr thing for sure.

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seconding this. the edd phone lines are genuinely impossible. claimyr got me through in like an hour when i had been trying for days on my own

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is it legit though? seems sketchy that something can just get you through to edd faster than calling yourself

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I was skeptical too honestly but it worked. They don't ask for anything weird. It just handles the phone queue part that kills everyone's entire day.

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wait so if ur fired does that mean u have to pay back the benefits later if ur employer appeals?? my cousin said something about that and now im scared to even file

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No, that's not how it works. If California EDD approves your claim and you receive benefits legitimately, you don't owe anything back just because your employer appeals. If an appeal later reverses the decision then EDD would send an overpayment notice but that's a separate process and there are ways to handle it. Don't let fear of that stop you from filing if you think you qualify.

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ok ok that makes more sense. i was thinking like the whole thing was a trap lol

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I actually went through this exact situation - fired for missing work, employer claimed misconduct, filed anyway. Here's what I learned from my adjudication experience at California EDD: 1. Respond to every questionnaire they send, even if the deadline feels tight 2. Be specific about dates and circumstances, don't be vague 3. If your employer gave you a written reason for termination, quote it back and explain why it doesn't constitute willful misconduct 4. Call to check your claim status periodically because sometimes EDD needs additional info and the notice gets lost in the mail The process took about 6 weeks for me but I did get approved.

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Mei Wong

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This is super helpful thank you. Did you keep filing weekly certifications while adjudication was going on? I wasn't sure if I was supposed to keep doing that.

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YES. Keep certifying every week no matter what. This is really important. If you get approved but stopped certifying, you miss out on those weeks of benefits. Keep certifying even if your portal shows pending or adjudication in progress.

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Cannot stress this enough. Keep certifying weekly. People lose weeks of payment they were entitled to because they stopped doing it during adjudication.

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CALIFORNIA EDD IS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE. Fired people are automatically at a disadvantage because employers have HR departments and lawyers helping them respond to adjudication questionnaires while regular people are just trying to figure out the system alone. It's incredibly unfair. I was fired in a situation way less complicated than yours and I STILL had to fight for 8 weeks to get approved.

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Mei Wong

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8 weeks is terrifying honestly. I have rent due next month.

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Apply for any emergency resources in your area while you wait. Food banks, utility assistance programs, whatever's available. Don't wait for EDD to come through to start looking at your options.

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this is actually good advice. edd timelines are unpredictable

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Just to add some clarity here - California uses a 'misconduct' standard that requires the employer to PROVE you did something wrong intentionally. The burden isn't on you to prove you didn't do it, it's on them to prove you did. A lot of people don't realize that. So if your employer just says 'violated attendance policy' without proving you knew about the policy and intentionally violated it anyway, that often isn't enough for a disqualification.

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Mei Wong

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That's actually a huge relief. My employer's written termination notice literally just says 'attendance issues' with no specifics at all.

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That vague language actually works in your favor. EDD adjudicators look for specifics. 'Attendance issues' without more detail is going to be hard for your employer to build a misconduct case around.

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Exactly right. Burden of proof is key. Vague employer responses in adjudication often result in the claimant winning by default.

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lowkey came here cause i'm in same boat. got fired last week and been panicking about whether i qualify. reading this thread is actually making me feel way less hopeless lol

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Mei Wong

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File immediately if you haven't yet! I've read that your benefit year starts from when you file not from when you got fired so every day you wait could potentially cost you.

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omg i didn't know that, filing tonight

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Yes file right away. Benefits are calculated from your filing date so don't wait.

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One more thing about actually getting information from California EDD while you're in adjudication - I mentioned Claimyr earlier and I want to add that when I finally got through to an agent using it, she was able to tell me exactly what was pending in my case and what documentation they still needed. That info wasn't showing anywhere in my UI Online portal. If your adjudication is dragging on and you can't figure out why, getting on the phone with an actual EDD agent is worth the effort. Claimyr.com, check out the demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see how it works before trying it.

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Mei Wong

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Yeah I'm definitely going to try this if my adjudication goes past a couple more weeks without movement. The portal showing nothing is driving me crazy.

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I tried calling edd this morning and hung up after 30 minutes. might actually just try claimyr at this point

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Something important people aren't mentioning: even if you do get disqualified initially, you can appeal. California EDD disqualifications are not final. You have 30 days from the mailing date on your Notice of Determination to file an appeal. The appeal goes to an administrative law judge who holds an actual hearing where you can present your evidence. Many people who lose the initial adjudication decision win their appeals because the hearing format allows for actual testimony and cross-examination.

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Mei Wong

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I had no idea appeals were a thing. That's really comforting to know there's a backup option if adjudication doesn't go my way.

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Absolutely. The appeals process is independent from the initial adjudication. Different people review it. And the hearing is your chance to actually tell your story directly rather than through written questionnaires.

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The appeal hearing is genuinely better than adjudication in my opinion. You can actually respond to what your employer claims in real time.

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dumb question but do you have to be looking for work while all this adjudication stuff is happening?? like the job search requirements still apply even if your claim is pending??

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Yes, job search requirements apply to most claimants even while adjudication is ongoing. California EDD requires three job search activities per week for most UI claimants. You'll need to record these in your weekly certification. If you're on standby or certain other specific situations you might be exempt but the default is yes, you need to be actively looking.

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three per week seems like a lot tbh

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It's not as much as it sounds once you get into it. Applying online counts, sending your resume out counts, even making a phone inquiry to an employer can count. Keep a log of everything with dates.

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went through adjudication after being fired in 2024, got approved after 4 weeks. employer claimed i was insubordinate but couldnt prove i was ever given the policy in writing. edd sided with me. these things do work out sometimes

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Mei Wong

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That's encouraging to hear. Thank you for sharing that.

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just document everything and respond to everything they send you. that's really all you can do at that point

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I want to push back slightly on the idea that being fired for attendance is automatically fine with EDD. I knew someone who got denied because they had a pattern of absences even if each individual absence had a reason. California EDD looked at the overall pattern and said it showed disregard for the job. Just want people to know it's not always clear cut.

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That's a fair point. A single incident vs. a pattern of behavior is a real distinction California EDD makes. That said, if the pattern was caused by an employer changing schedules without notice, that context matters and should be explained in the questionnaire.

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Mei Wong

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Mine was two missed shifts in four years of employment. I'm hoping that context helps.

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Four years of employment with two incidents is a very strong position. That's not a pattern by any reasonable standard.

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Anyone know if your former employer finds out how much you're collecting in unemployment benefits? My ex boss is the vindictive type and I feel like he'd try to mess with my claim just to be petty

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Employers don't see the amount you're collecting but they do get notified when a former employee files a claim and they have the opportunity to respond. If they protest your claim it goes into adjudication. But their ability to actually block your benefits depends entirely on whether they can prove misconduct - they can't just say 'I don't want them to get benefits' and have it work.

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ok that's kinda what i figured. he'll probably fight it but hopefully edd sees through it

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Vindictive employers who file vague or unsupported responses to EDD actually tend to lose. Adjudicators are experienced with this dynamic.

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SAME SITUATION. terminated 'for cause' but the cause was basically that my manager had it out for me. filed 6 days ago and already in adjudication. this thread is genuinely the most helpful thing i've found

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File your weekly certifications no matter what and respond to every piece of mail or message from EDD promptly. Those two things are the most important things you can control right now.

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Noted. Certifying weekly even though nothing has been approved yet feels weird but I'll keep doing it

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A thing I wish someone had told me: when California EDD sends you the adjudication questionnaire, there's usually a section for 'additional information.' Don't leave that blank. Use it to explain context that doesn't fit neatly into their yes/no questions. That's where I explained the circumstances around my situation and the adjudicator actually referenced it in the determination letter.

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Mei Wong

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Oh wow I actually did almost leave that blank because I wasn't sure what to put there. Glad you mentioned this.

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Fill it in. Be specific and factual. Dates, names, what was said, what wasn't said. The adjudicators read it.

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This is excellent advice. The narrative matters. EDD adjudicators have a lot of cases and a clear coherent explanation of what happened goes a long way.

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update: filed my claim last night after reading this thread. now i wait i guess lol

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Mei Wong

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Good luck!! Make sure you watch for any mail or portal messages from EDD - respond to everything fast

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will do. also starting my job search log tonight just in case

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For anyone in this thread still struggling to reach California EDD by phone during their adjudication - genuinely try Claimyr. I know I've mentioned it twice but it's because it actually solved a problem that was driving me insane. claimyr.com has all the info and there's a demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. Being able to speak to an actual EDD agent made my entire adjudication process less stressful because I finally had actual information instead of just a frozen portal.

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bookmarking this. haven't needed it yet but the way edd phones are i probably will

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yeah the edd phone line is legitimately impossible i tried for three days before giving up

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just want to say this is one of the most actually useful threads i've seen about california edd. usually these just spiral into complaints with no real info

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Mei Wong

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Agreed - everyone here has been super helpful. I feel way more prepared for adjudication now than I did when I posted.

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Good luck OP. Come back and update us on how it goes.

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Mei Wong

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Will do. If adjudication goes well I'll post an update in case it helps someone else in the same situation searching for this.

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