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Cameron Black

Can you get unemployment after being fired in California? My EDD claim situation

So I got fired from my warehouse job about two weeks ago and I honestly wasn't sure if I could even file for unemployment. A coworker told me that if you get fired you automatically get denied by California EDD, but that doesn't sound right to me. I've been at this job for almost 4 years with zero disciplinary issues and then out of nowhere my supervisor claimed I violated a workplace policy. I genuinely didn't even know this policy existed - it was never in any handbook I received and I never got a verbal warning about it either. I went ahead and filed my UI claim anyway because I figured I had nothing to lose. Now my claim is sitting in adjudication and I have no idea what that means or whether I'm going to get approved. Does anyone know if you can actually get unemployment benefits after being fired in California? Like does it matter WHY you were fired?

Your coworker is wrong - getting fired does NOT automatically disqualify you from California EDD unemployment benefits. The key thing California EDD looks at is whether you were fired for what they call 'misconduct.' If they fired you for a legitimate business reason that wasn't really your fault, or if you genuinely didn't know about the policy you supposedly violated, you have a really solid chance of getting approved. The fact that you had 4 years with no disciplinary history is actually a strong point in your favor.

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Oh wow okay that's a huge relief. So the adjudication process is basically them figuring out if it counts as misconduct?

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Exactly. During adjudication California EDD contacts both you and your former employer to get both sides. They'll ask you to explain what happened and your employer has to provide documentation of the alleged violation. If they can't show you knowingly broke a clear policy, misconduct is hard to prove.

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This is correct. California defines misconduct pretty specifically - it has to be a willful or wanton disregard for the employer's interests. Accidentally violating a policy you didn't know existed typically doesn't meet that bar.

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went through this exact situation last year, fired after 3 years and was terrified id get denied. EDD approved me after about 3 weeks in adjudication. just make sure you answer all the questions they send you honestly and give as much detail as possible about why you didn't know about the policy

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Did they contact you by phone or mail during adjudication? I'm not sure what to expect.

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they mailed me a form to fill out and then called me once to ask follow up questions. answer everything quickly dont let anything sit

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I was in almost the same boat last year and spent weeks trying to call California EDD to check on my adjudication status and could NOT get through to anyone. Kept getting the 'we're experiencing high call volume' message and getting hung up on. A friend told me about Claimyr (claimyr.com) and honestly it saved my sanity. They get you connected to an actual EDD rep so you can ask questions directly about your claim status. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - worth checking out if you're stuck trying to reach someone.

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I've been trying to call EDD for days with zero luck. Definitely going to look into this, thanks.

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second this, calling EDD on your own is basically impossible during certain times. anything that helps you actually reach a human is worth it

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Yeah the rep I spoke to was actually really helpful and explained exactly where my claim was in the adjudication process. Made a huge difference knowing what was actually going on.

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WAIT. People need to stop saying fired always goes to adjudication because that is NOT true. I was fired and my claim got approved same week no adjudication at all. It depends on whether your employer contests the claim or not. Some employers don't even respond to EDD when they get notified.

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You're partially right - if the employer doesn't contest, EDD may approve quickly without a full adjudication interview. But claims involving termination often do trigger at least a review even without a formal employer contest, especially if the separation reason field indicates 'discharged.

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okay fair point i guess my old employer just didnt bother responding lol

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this happened to a buddy of mine too, employer never replied and he was approved fast. definitely not guaranteed though

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can i ask something kind of related - if youre fired does it matter how long you worked there for getting the maximum benefit amount? or is the weekly benefit amount calculated the same way regardless of how you were separated

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The weekly benefit amount calculation is completely separate from the eligibility determination. EDD calculates your benefit amount based on your base period wages (the 12-month period roughly 5-17 months before you filed). How you were separated affects whether you qualify, not how much you receive if you do qualify.

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oh okay that makes sense thank you. so theoretically two people fired for different reasons could get the same weekly amount as long as their wages were the same

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Correct. The benefit amount formula is strictly mathematical based on your highest earning quarter in the base period. A person who quits and gets approved, someone laid off, and someone fired and approved would all get the same amount if their wages were identical.

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I just want to add something about the job search requirements because a lot of people getting approved after being fired don't realize this - you still have to do your weekly job search activities and certify them every week even while your claim is in adjudication. I made the mistake of not certifying for two weeks because I thought I had to wait for adjudication to finish first. Had to call EDD to sort out the missed certifications and it was a whole thing.

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Wait seriously?? I haven't been certifying because I assumed I had to wait for approval first. I need to fix this right now.

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Yes go certify ASAP! You can backfill missed certifications by calling EDD directly. Don't wait any longer on this one.

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THIS IS SO IMPORTANT and nobody tells you. I also missed my first two weeks of certifications for the same reason. The weekly certifications are separate from the adjudication determination - you're supposed to certify starting from the week you filed regardless of claim status.

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ok so genuine question bc im confused - whats the difference between adjudication and an appeal? i keep seeing both terms and idk which one applies to me

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Adjudication is what happens BEFORE a decision is made - it's when EDD is investigating the circumstances of your separation to determine eligibility. An appeal is what you file AFTER EDD makes a decision if you disagree with that decision. So adjudication comes first, appeal comes after if needed.

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ohhhhh okay that totally makes sense now. so im in adjudication right now and i only need to worry about an appeal if they deny me

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Exactly right. And if you do get denied after adjudication, you have 30 days from the decision date to file an appeal with the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board (CUIAB). Keep that deadline in mind just in case.

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I got fired for attendance issues last year and was really worried about being denied. The adjudication process took about 5 weeks for me which was stressful. But I was ultimately approved because I had medical documentation for most of my absences and my employer couldn't demonstrate a proper progressive discipline process was followed. If you have any documentation supporting your case - emails, texts, anything - save all of it now before you lose access to company systems.

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That's a really good point about losing access to company systems. I still have my old work email login but I should probably download anything relevant quickly.

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Yes do it NOW. Many companies terminate system access within 30 days and sometimes much sooner. Any emails where your employer discusses policies, any performance reviews, any HR communications - save copies of everything.

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Adding to this - also write down everything you remember about conversations with your supervisor or HR about the alleged policy violation, dates, times, who was present, what was said. Even handwritten notes can be useful if you end up needing to appeal.

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something nobody mentions is that during adjudication you should NOT be ignoring any mail from california edd. i almost lost my claim because i thought a letter was junk mail and didnt open it for a week. turned out it was asking me to respond within 10 days to provide my side of the story. almost missed the deadline

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Oh my gosh thank you for saying this. I've gotten a few things in the mail that I haven't opened yet because I didn't recognize the return address.

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open everything immediately!! EDD sends stuff from Sacramento and the return address might not say EDD on it

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Also check your UI Online inbox - EDD sometimes sends notices digitally through the portal that they don't send by mail, depending on your notification settings.

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I spent THREE WEEKS trying to get through to California EDD after my claim got flagged for adjudication following my termination. Calling was absolutely useless - auto-disconnect every single time. Finally used Claimyr after seeing it mentioned somewhere online and got connected to an EDD rep within the same day. The agent was able to tell me exactly what information they still needed from me to complete the adjudication. Game changer honestly. claimyr.com if anyone needs it.

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Glad you mentioned this again - I tried calling EDD this morning and got disconnected after waiting 45 minutes. Going to try Claimyr today.

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does it actually work? seems almost too good to be true that there's a way to get through to EDD

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I was skeptical too honestly but yes it worked for me. You can watch the demo at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 before deciding. I just needed to actually talk to someone and it made that possible.

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To give the most complete answer to the original question for anyone finding this thread later: In California, being fired does not automatically disqualify you from UI benefits. California Unemployment Insurance Code Section 1256 defines the specific misconduct standard. To be disqualified, EDD must find that you were discharged for misconduct connected with your work. Misconduct requires a showing that you deliberately violated a known, reasonable policy. Single isolated incidents, poor performance, or policy violations you were unaware of generally do NOT meet the misconduct standard. When in doubt, always file - you may be surprised.

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This is incredibly helpful, thank you. Feeling a lot better about my claim now.

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This is the answer right here. So many people don't file because they think being fired is automatic disqualification. FILE ANYWAY, worst they can say is no and then you can appeal.

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Saving this comment. The number of people I know who didn't file because they assumed being fired meant automatic denial is so frustrating.

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quick question - does the reason your employer gives for firing you have to match what you say happened? like what if my employer is lying about why they fired me

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This is actually really common. EDD adjudication is essentially your word vs. your employer's, and EDD has to weigh the credibility and evidence from both sides. Your employer has the burden to prove misconduct - they can't just say 'misconduct' without documentation. If you have evidence contradicting their reason, present it.

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Correct - in California the burden of proof for misconduct in a discharge case falls on the employer. If the employer's account is inconsistent, lacks documentation, or you can show a different narrative with evidence, that works in your favor during adjudication and especially during any appeal.

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okay good because my old manager is definitely going to exaggerate or make stuff up. i have text messages that show a completely different story

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Went through this whole process earlier this year. One thing that really helped me was writing out a clear timeline of events before EDD contacted me for my adjudication interview. Include dates of employment, any performance reviews or commendations, when the alleged incident happened, and the circumstances of your termination. Having it written out made the phone interview way less stressful.

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How long was the phone interview? Was it intimidating?

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Mine was about 20 minutes. The interviewer was actually pretty neutral and professional, not adversarial. They just want the facts. Having my notes in front of me helped me stay calm and not forget anything important.

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Same experience here. The EDD interviewer isn't trying to trap you - they literally just need information to make a determination. Being organized and factual is the best approach.

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The thing that stresses me out about all of this is not knowing how long adjudication takes. Mine has been going on for 6 weeks now and still nothing. Is that normal??

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Unfortunately yes, adjudication timelines vary a lot. Straightforward cases can resolve in 2-3 weeks. More complex ones involving back-and-forth with employers can take 6-10 weeks or longer. Keep certifying every week no matter how long it takes.

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6-10 weeks is brutal when you have no income coming in. Is there any way to speed it up?

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Calling to check in and make sure they have everything they need can sometimes help. If you can't get through by phone, Claimyr (claimyr.com) helped me actually reach an agent to check on my claim status. At minimum you want to make sure the hold isn't because of missing information on your end.

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does anyone know if you can work part time while your adjudication is pending and still keep getting benefits if you're approved later

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Yes, but you must report ALL earnings when you certify for each week, even during adjudication. If you're approved retroactively, those weeks where you earned wages will have a reduction applied. California EDD uses a formula where you can earn up to 25% of your weekly benefit amount before your benefits start reducing dollar for dollar.

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okay so i should still report the part time work even though nothing has been paid out yet

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Absolutely - always report earnings accurately regardless of your claim status. Failure to report earnings, even during adjudication, can result in an overpayment determination later which creates a whole separate problem.

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This is so important. Do NOT wait to report earnings thinking it will be sorted out later. Report everything accurately every single week, it will all get calculated correctly once your claim is approved.

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not to be too negative but i just want people to know that even if you do everything right you might still get denied. i was fired after 6 years, had documentation proving i didn't know about the policy, had a great track record, and EDD still denied me in adjudication. had to go to an appeal hearing. eventually won but it took 4 more months

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That's really discouraging to hear but I appreciate the honesty. At least you won in the end.

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Yes the appeal hearing was actually much better than adjudication - you get to present your case in front of an administrative law judge and your employer has to actually show up and be cross-examined. I should have been more prepared but I still won.

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Appeals actually have a pretty decent success rate for claimants who were denied for misconduct when there's genuine ambiguity. The CUIAB hearing gives you a real opportunity to present your case. Don't give up after an initial denial.

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just want to say ive been reading this whole thread and this is literally the most helpful thing ive found anywhere about EDD and getting fired. been panicking for two weeks and this finally makes me feel like i understand whats going on

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Same here, this thread basically answered every question I had. Feeling way more prepared now.

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Good luck to everyone in this situation. File, certify every week without fail, respond to all EDD communications quickly, keep documentation, and don't give up if you get an initial denial. The system can be slow and frustrating but there are real paths through it.

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Update for anyone curious - I was in a similar situation to OP and just got my approval letter today after 5 weeks in adjudication. Fired for alleged policy violation, no prior warnings, approved because employer couldn't document that I had been informed of the specific policy. Keep the faith everyone.

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This is so encouraging thank you for coming back to update!! Gives me hope.

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congratulations!! this is what people need to hear. the system can work if you present your case clearly

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Really glad to hear this. Outcomes like yours are why it's always worth filing even when you feel uncertain about eligibility.

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love a good update post. congrats and hope OP gets the same result soon

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