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Sean Murphy

Can you draw unemployment if fired in California? My EDD claim situation

So I got let go from my job at a logistics company last month and I'm honestly not sure if I even qualify for unemployment benefits. My manager called it a termination but the whole situation was kind of messy - there was a disagreement about my schedule and things escalated from there. My coworker told me that if you get fired you can't collect unemployment at all, but another friend said that's not always true depending on why you got fired. I went ahead and filed a claim with California EDD anyway but now I'm in limbo not knowing if I'm going to get approved or denied. The UI Online portal just shows my claim is being processed but gives me zero details. Has anyone been through this? Can you actually draw unemployment if fired or does it automatically disqualify you?

Short answer: yes, you CAN collect unemployment if fired in California, but it depends on the reason. California EDD doesn't automatically deny claims just because you were fired. The key question they look at is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law. A lot of people don't realize that being fired for things like performance issues, personality conflicts with management, or even some policy violations doesn't necessarily count as disqualifying misconduct. If EDD determines your firing wasn't due to willful misconduct, you'll likely get approved.

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Wait so performance issues wouldn't disqualify me? My manager said I wasn't meeting productivity targets. Is that considered misconduct?

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Performance issues alone are generally NOT considered misconduct under California UI law. Misconduct typically requires intentional or deliberate acts that violated a known policy - not just struggling to meet performance benchmarks. You have a decent shot at approval.

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This is really good info. I always assumed fired meant automatic denial, learned something today.

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I went through something almost identical - fired from a warehouse job, wasn't sure if I'd qualify. Filed with California EDD and got put into adjudication. The adjudication process basically means they're investigating the circumstances of your separation before making a decision. They contact your former employer to get their side of the story too. Just make sure when they send you the questionnaire about your separation, you answer every question honestly and in detail. That questionnaire is really important.

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Did you eventually get approved? How long did adjudication take for you?

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Took about 3 weeks for me and I was approved. My employer tried to claim I violated a policy but EDD sided with me because it wasn't a clear written policy. Document everything you can remember about what happened.

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same here adjudication is scary but a lot of people come out the other side approved. hang in there

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One thing worth knowing - California EDD will try to reach you by phone during the adjudication process. If you miss that call you might face delays getting your claim sorted out. I spent two weeks trying to call them back and couldn't get through to an actual person. Constant busy signals or getting bounced around the automated system. A friend mentioned Claimyr to me (claimyr.com) and honestly it was a game changer. There's a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 - basically it helps you actually connect with a live EDD agent instead of sitting on hold forever. Got my adjudication question answered within the same day.

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I've been trying to call EDD for days and cannot get through at all. Going to check out that Claimyr link right now, thanks.

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does it actually work? EDD phones are like impossible

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Worked for me. You actually talk to a real agent which is what you need when your claim is in adjudication and you have specific questions about your fired/misconduct situation.

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ok so misconduct is the big word here. theres a difference between simple misconduct and GROSS misconduct in california. simple misconduct might still let u get some benefits, gross misconduct is the one that totally disqualifies u. things like theft, violence, showing up drunk, stuff like that is gross misconduct. getting fired for like arguing with ur boss or missing a deadline probably isnt going to rise to that level

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Wait is that actually true? I thought any misconduct disqualified you completely from California EDD unemployment?

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nope look it up, california has tiers basically. not all misconduct is created equal

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This is partially correct - California does distinguish between types of misconduct. The nuance is important here. Even 'simple misconduct' can still result in a disqualification period, just not a permanent one. But many firings don't meet the legal threshold for misconduct at all.

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The most important thing you can do right now is keep filing your weekly certifications on UI Online even while your claim is in adjudication. A LOT of people make the mistake of stopping their weekly claims while waiting for a decision. If you get approved, EDD will only pay you back for weeks you actually certified for. Don't skip those weekly certifications under any circumstances.

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Oh wow I did not know this!! I was going to wait until I heard something before filing my weekly claim. Doing it right now, thank you!

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THIS. so many people lose backpay because they stopped certifying. always always always keep filing weekly even during adjudication

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Seconding this. I missed two weeks of certifications during my adjudication and had to jump through hoops to get them backdated. Not fun.

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I got fired last year and my former employer fought my unemployment claim hard. They submitted all this documentation claiming I violated company policy repeatedly. California EDD still approved me because I had documentation showing I was never formally written up or warned about the specific things they cited. The lesson: if you have any emails, texts, performance reviews, or anything in writing from your job, save all of it. Even if your claim seems straightforward, employers push back more than you'd expect.

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This is making me anxious. My employer might try to say I violated attendance policy but my absences were all approved by HR...

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That's actually really good for you. If HR approved your absences, that's documented evidence that works in your favor. Try to get copies of those approvals if you don't already have them.

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Screenshots of approval emails saved my claim too. Always save work communications especially toward the end of a job

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my cousin got fired for being late too many times and still got unemployment from california edd so yeah its definitely possible. edd looks at whether the company warned you and gave you a chance to fix things before firing you

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That's actually really reassuring to hear. Did your cousin have to go through a phone interview or anything?

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yeah they called her like once and she answered and explained everything and that was pretty much it

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I'll be honest - when EDD put me in adjudication after getting fired I completely panicked. I assumed denied meant the end of the road. What I didn't know is that even if you DO get denied initially, you have the right to appeal within 30 days of the denial notice. The appeal goes to an Administrative Law Judge who reviews everything independently from EDD. I've seen people win appeals even when EDD denied them. So don't give up if you get a denial - fight it.

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I really hope it doesn't come to an appeal but it's good to know that's an option. Is the appeals process complicated?

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It's a real hearing but you can represent yourself. You just need to present your evidence and tell your side. Many people do it without a lawyer and win.

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The appeal hearing success rate for claimants who show up and present documentation is actually pretty decent. The key is actually showing up - a lot of people don't appear and automatically lose.

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wait is anyone else confused about the difference between being fired and being laid off for EDD purposes? like if your company fires you but calls it a 'restructuring' does that count as laid off?

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Great question - what matters is the actual reason for separation, not what the employer calls it. If the company eliminated your position due to business reasons, that's generally treated like a layoff regardless of whether they technically used the word 'fired.' EDD will dig into the actual circumstances.

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ok so the label doesnt automatically determine eligibility, got it

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I went through this exact thing. Company called it 'position elimination' after I had a conflict with management. EDD approved me after adjudication because the real reason was business-related not misconduct.

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For anyone struggling to get EDD on the phone during adjudication - seriously try Claimyr. I know I mentioned it already but I want to be clear about why it matters specifically for fired/misconduct cases. When EDD is investigating your separation, they might need additional information and being unreachable can actually hurt your case. Getting through to an agent means you can proactively explain your situation rather than just waiting. claimyr.com - there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 that explains the whole thing.

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just watched the video, seems legit. gonna try it because i have been calling edd for literally 3 weeks straight with zero luck

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The being unreachable point is real. I missed an EDD call once and my adjudication got extended by almost 2 weeks waiting for them to call back again

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Something nobody mentioned yet - California is actually a claimant-friendly state compared to a lot of others when it comes to unemployment after being fired. The burden of proof is on the EMPLOYER to show misconduct, not on you to prove you didn't commit misconduct. That's a big deal. Your former employer has to actually demonstrate the misconduct, not just assert it.

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I had no idea the burden of proof was on the employer! That makes me feel so much better about my situation.

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Yep. California EDD takes that seriously. If your employer can't document the specific misconduct, their claim falls apart.

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This is accurate and so important. Many employers fail to provide sufficient documentation and EDD sides with the claimant by default.

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Just want to share a quick timeline from my experience so you have realistic expectations. Filed claim: Day 1. Entered adjudication: Day 8. Received separation questionnaire from EDD: Day 12. Submitted my answers: Day 14. Employer submitted their info: unknown. Adjudication decision: Day 31. Benefits started including backpay for all certified weeks: Day 38. The whole thing was stressful but ultimately worked out. The waiting is the worst part.

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Thank you for this breakdown! So realistically I might be waiting 4-5 weeks for a decision?

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Could be faster, could be a bit longer depending on how quickly your employer responds to EDD. Employer response time affects the whole timeline.

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Mine was similar timeline. 4 weeks felt like forever but benefits came through with all the back weeks paid at once which was a relief

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also make sure u understand the job search requirements while ur waiting. even if ur in adjudication u still gotta do 3 job search activities per week in california and log them. people forget this and then get an overpayment issue later or lose benefits for not meeting requirements

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Wait do I have to be doing job search activities even before my claim is approved?? Nobody told me this

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yes!! start from the first week you certify. log employer contacts, job applications, workshops anything that counts. check the edd website for what qualifies

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Correct - job search requirements apply from week one of your claim, not from approval date. Keep a log with dates, employer names, contact method, and position applied for. EDD can audit this.

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EDD is honestly a nightmare to deal with when you're in adjudication. I filed my claim in January, got fired from a retail job for what my employer called 'insubordination' (aka I told a customer the truth about a defective product), spent 5 weeks not knowing if I'd get benefits. Meanwhile bills don't stop. The system is SO broken it took me calling literally 47 times over two weeks before I finally got a human on the phone.

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47 times. I feel this so much. How did your case eventually turn out?

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approved finally. but the stress was unreal. hopefully your situation resolves faster

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47 calls is actually not even unusual. EDD phone lines are genuinely one of the worst in any government agency. I stopped counting after like 30

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One more thing on the misconduct topic since there's been some good info here - even if EDD initially codes your separation as 'discharged for misconduct' there's often a phone interview where you get to explain your side in detail. I cannot stress enough how important it is to be calm, factual, and specific during that interview. Don't bad-mouth your employer, just explain factually what happened, what policies existed, whether you were warned, all of that. The interviewer is just trying to get facts, not catch you out.

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This is really helpful. I tend to get emotional talking about it because the whole situation felt really unfair. I need to remember to stick to facts.

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Totally understandable. Maybe write out bullet points beforehand so you stay organized during the call. Prepare like you'd prepare for a job interview.

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Real talk - I used Claimyr when I was dealing with my fired/adjudication situation and it connected me to an EDD agent who walked me through exactly what information I needed to provide for my case. The agent actually told me things I never would have known just from the website. If you're sitting in adjudication wondering what EDD needs from you, talking to an actual agent is invaluable. claimyr.com has the info and there's a YouTube walkthrough at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10

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Okay I'm definitely trying this. I have specific questions about my case that the website just doesn't answer and I need to talk to someone.

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wish I'd known about this earlier when I was making my 47 calls lol

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Summarizing what good answers here have covered since this thread has gotten long: 1) Fired does NOT automatically mean denied in California. 2) EDD looks at whether your firing constituted 'misconduct' under UI law. 3) Performance issues generally aren't misconduct. 4) Burden of proof is on your employer. 5) Keep certifying weekly no matter what. 6) Do your job search activities from week one. 7) Respond to all EDD communications immediately and in detail. 8) If denied, appeal within 30 days. You have more options than you probably think.

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This summary is incredibly helpful. Saving this whole thread. Thank you everyone who responded, I feel way less panicked now.

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Great summary. Adding one thing: respond to EVERY EDD notice even if it seems like a formality. Ignoring notices is how people accidentally lose their claims.

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bookmark this thread seriously. had no idea about half this stuff when i first filed

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i got fired and was scared to even file because my manager literally told me 'you wont get unemployment after this' lol. filed anyway and got approved. managers say that to intimidate you. always file, let EDD make the actual determination

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Oh wow my manager implied something similar! Glad to know that's just a scare tactic and not actually how it works.

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100% a scare tactic. EDD makes the decision, not your former employer. Your employer gets a say in the process but not the final word.

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managers absolutely say this all the time. file your claim regardless of what anyone at your old job tells you

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Update us when you get your decision! Threads like this where OP actually comes back with what happened are so helpful for people who find this later searching for the same thing. Good luck with your claim.

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I will definitely update! Fingers crossed for good news in the next few weeks.

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Yeah please do update. Rooting for you!

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