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Felix Grigori

Can I apply for California EDD unemployment if I was fired from my job?

So I got fired from my job at a logistics company last week and I honestly don't even know where to start. I've never filed for unemployment before so this whole thing is completely new to me. My manager said I was terminated for 'performance issues' but I genuinely feel like the situation was blown way out of proportion - I missed a couple of deadlines because I was dealing with a family emergency and they never gave me any kind of formal warning before just letting me go. I keep seeing conflicting stuff online about whether you can even apply for California EDD unemployment if you were fired. Some sites say you automatically get disqualified if you're fired and other places say it depends on the reason. I'm really confused about what 'misconduct' means in the context of EDD because that seems to be the magic word everyone uses. I went ahead and filed a claim through UI Online anyway because I figured I'd try, but now I'm just sitting here wondering if I wasted my time. My claim just says 'pending' right now. Has anyone been through this? Can I actually get unemployment benefits if I was fired, or is that basically a dead end? I've got rent due in three weeks and I'm starting to panic a little.

Yes, you absolutely can apply for California EDD unemployment if you were fired - and your situation actually sounds like it has a decent chance of being approved. The key thing EDD looks at is whether you were fired for 'misconduct' as defined under California unemployment law. Misconduct has a pretty specific legal definition - it's not just any mistake or performance issue. It generally has to involve a deliberate violation of your employer's rules or a willful disregard for your employer's interests. Missing deadlines due to a family emergency, especially without prior formal warnings, typically does NOT meet the legal standard for misconduct. California EDD will contact your former employer to get their side of the story, but the burden is actually on the employer to prove misconduct occurred - not on you to prove it didn't. So file your claim, answer all the questions honestly, and explain the family emergency circumstances when asked. Good luck.

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This is really reassuring, thank you. When you say EDD contacts the employer, do they just ask for a statement or is it more like a formal interview process? And does my employer have to respond within a certain timeframe?

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EDD sends the employer a questionnaire asking for their account of the separation. Employers typically have about 10 days to respond. If they don't respond in time, EDD usually proceeds with just your information, which often works in the claimant's favor. If there's a dispute between your account and theirs, the claim gets flagged for adjudication - meaning an EDD representative reviews everything and makes a determination.

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yeah they contacted my old employer when i filed and they lied through their teeth about why i was let go. ended up going to an appeal hearing. just be ready for that possibility

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Filing was the right move. Even if your claim gets flagged for adjudication because of the circumstances around your termination, you still have the right to appeal any denial. Don't assume the worst just because it says pending - lots of claims sit in pending status for a week or two before moving forward. One thing to do RIGHT NOW while you're waiting: start filing your weekly certifications. A lot of people don't realize you have to certify every week to keep your claim active, even before you've been approved. If you get approved later, you'll receive back payments for all the weeks you certified. If you don't certify, you lose those weeks permanently.

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Wait I didn't know about the weekly certifications! I filed the initial claim Sunday - so do I certify starting this week or do I wait until something gets approved first?

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Start certifying immediately. UI Online will show you your certification schedule once your claim is set up. Typically you certify for the previous week on Sundays or Mondays. Don't skip weeks even if your claim is still showing pending - those weeks are what gets you paid retroactively once approved.

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THIS. I learned this the hard way. Waited 5 weeks to start certifying because I thought I had to wait for approval and lost those weeks. Don't make my mistake.

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I went through almost the exact same situation about eight months ago - fired for so-called 'performance reasons' with zero written warnings beforehand. My claim got put into adjudication which was nerve-wracking but honestly the process wasn't as scary as I thought it would be once I understood what was happening. What really helped me was actually getting to talk to an EDD representative directly to understand where my claim stood and what documents to gather. After spending like four days trying to get through on the phone and failing every single time, someone in a different forum mentioned Claimyr. It's a service at claimyr.com that basically holds your place in the EDD phone queue and calls you back when an agent is available. There's also a demo video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 if you want to see what it does before trying it. After weeks of busy signals and disconnections, I got connected to an actual EDD agent within a couple hours. The agent walked me through exactly what documentation would help my adjudication case. Claim got approved about a week later.

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I'm definitely going to need to talk to someone at EDD at some point. I already tried calling twice and got a busy signal both times. I'll check out that Claimyr service - did the EDD agent actually help you prepare for adjudication or just give general info?

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The agent told me specifically what notes were on my claim file and what questions the adjudicator would likely be focusing on. That was way more useful than anything I found online. Definitely worth getting that direct conversation if your claim goes into adjudication.

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claimyr sounds like a lot of extra steps tbh. why not just keep calling EDD directly

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Because EDD's phone line drops you after holding for 2+ hours or just plays a message saying they can't take your call. I tried the direct line method for almost a week before trying Claimyr. Not saying it doesn't work for everyone but I was desperate at that point.

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ok so misconduct under California law is actually a pretty high bar and a lot of people don't realize this. like your employer can THINK you were fired for cause but EDD makes their own independent determination. I've seen people get approved for unemployment after being fired for things like attendance issues, not meeting sales quotas, being bad at the job, even some arguments with coworkers. Those things generally aren't misconduct. What DOES count as misconduct is stuff like theft, harassment, intentionally violating safety rules, coming to work drunk repeatedly after warnings. The deliberate/willful element is what separates misconduct from just... not being great at your job.

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wait so even if I got fired for being late a bunch of times that might not be misconduct??

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Correct - repeated tardiness by itself usually doesn't rise to the level of misconduct for EDD purposes, UNLESS you had multiple formal written warnings, were told explicitly your job was in jeopardy, and continued anyway. Even then it's not guaranteed to be a disqualifying finding.

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This is not entirely accurate - EDD does sometimes find misconduct for attendance issues depending on circumstances. Don't want people to count on approval when it's not guaranteed.

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Fair correction - nothing is ever guaranteed with EDD. My point was just that firing doesn't automatically mean disqualified, and the misconduct standard is higher than most people expect. Always apply and let EDD make the determination.

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I'm freaking out reading this thread because I'm in almost the same boat right now. Got terminated last month and my claim has been in adjudication for going on three weeks. Nobody will tell me anything and I can't get through to EDD on the phone no matter what time I call. Is three weeks normal for adjudication when it involves a fired claim?

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Unfortunately yes - adjudication for separation disputes can take 3-6 weeks depending on EDD's current workload and how quickly your former employer responded to their questionnaire. The wait is brutal but it doesn't mean anything negative about your case outcome.

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Three to SIX weeks?! I'm going to lose my apartment. Is there anything I can actually do to speed this up or am I just at their mercy?

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Getting an actual EDD agent on the phone is your best bet for getting any real update. I used Claimyr (claimyr.com) when I was in a similar situation - they got me through to an agent and I at least found out where my claim was in the process. The video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10 explains the whole thing. Knowing the timeline helped me figure out what else I needed to do while waiting.

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Ok I'll try that. At this point I just need SOME information. The not knowing is the worst part.

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The thing that gets me is how EDD makes the whole process so opaque. You file, it goes into some black hole, and nobody tells you ANYTHING. I was fired two years ago and even though my claim eventually got approved it took so long I had already borrowed money from my parents and was behind on everything. The system is designed to make people give up I swear.

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100% feel this. The lack of communication from EDD is infuriating. You're in the middle of a financial crisis and they just... say nothing for weeks.

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And when you DO finally get through to someone they're reading off a script and can't actually tell you anything useful. 'Your claim is being processed.' OK THANKS SO HELPFUL.

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at least you got approved eventually. some people get denied and then have to go through the whole appeal process which takes even longer

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For the original poster - since you mentioned a family emergency as context for the missed deadlines, make sure you document that when EDD asks you about your separation. If you have anything in writing - texts, emails, even a doctor's note or anything related to the emergency - keep all of it. You don't necessarily need to submit it right away but you want to have it ready if your claim gets contested. Also important: be really specific and factual when describing your separation to EDD. Don't editorialize or say things like 'my employer was unfair' - just stick to the facts of what happened, when it happened, and what you communicated to your employer about the family situation.

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That's a good point about keeping it factual. I do have some texts where I told my manager about the family situation before the deadlines were missed. Would those be useful to have ready?

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Absolutely yes. Those texts show you communicated proactively rather than just blowing off the deadlines. That's exactly the kind of documentation that helps establish there was no willful misconduct. Save screenshots of everything.

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also check if your company has an HR handbook or written performance policy - if they had a progressive discipline policy (verbal warning, written warning, etc) and skipped straight to firing you, that can also work in your favor with EDD

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does anyone know if the employer finds out exactly what you said to EDD during the claim process? like are your exact responses shared with them?

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EDD shares enough information with the employer to allow them to respond to your version of events - so functionally yes, your account of the separation gets shared in some form. But this shouldn't change what you say to EDD - always tell the truth. Making your story sound better than it was can backfire badly if it contradicts records the employer submits.

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ok that makes sense. I was just worried about saying something that causes problems but yeah I should just be honest

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The process is designed as an information-gathering exercise, not adversarial questioning. EDD wants to understand what happened. Being straightforward and consistent is always the best approach.

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my cousin got fired for fighting at work and still got approved for unemployment lol. I always thought you couldn't get benefits if you got fired so this whole thread is news to me

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A single altercation without prior incidents can sometimes be found not to meet the misconduct standard depending on context. But I wouldn't exactly recommend that strategy for keeping your job lol.

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oh definitely not lol. just saying the system is more nuanced than people think

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I want to push back slightly on the optimism in this thread - I don't want OP to be blindsided. In my experience, when employers contest a claim and submit documentation, adjudication can go either way. I was fired for attendance, had no written warnings, and still got denied. Ended up winning at the appeal hearing but that took another 2 months. Not saying don't try - definitely apply and fight for it. Just be emotionally prepared for the possibility of a denial and know that a denial is NOT the end of the road. The appeal process exists for a reason and many people win at that stage.

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This is helpful context even if it's not what I was hoping to hear. If I do get denied, what does the appeal process actually look like? Is it like a court thing?

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It's an administrative hearing, not a courtroom, but it is more formal than the initial claim process. You appear before an Administrative Law Judge - usually by phone now - and both you and your employer can present testimony and evidence. You don't need a lawyer though many people go without one and win. The hearing is recorded and you have the right to see any documents EDD or your employer submitted.

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Appeals do have a deadline though - you typically have 30 days from the date on your denial notice to file the appeal. So if you get denied, act quickly and don't wait to see if the situation resolves itself.

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ugh this whole thread is giving me anxiety because I need to file too. been putting it off for two weeks because I was scared I'd automatically get denied for being fired. now I'm reading you might have lost those weeks by not certifying. can I still get paid for those weeks somehow??

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If you haven't established a claim yet, unfortunately those pre-filing weeks typically can't be claimed retroactively. Your benefit year starts from when you file. This is why filing immediately after losing your job is so important - don't wait to see if you find something else first.

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ugh I really wish I had known that. filing today for sure

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File ASAP and don't look back. Every week you delay is potentially money you can't recover. The whole 'I'll find a job fast' thinking is what got me behind on my claim too.

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just want to add - when you're in adjudication and waiting, DO NOT stop filing your weekly certifications. I cannot stress this enough. I know other people said this but I stopped mine during adjudication because I thought it was pointless and lost like $2,400 worth of benefits. certify every single week no matter what

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I have this written on a sticky note now literally. Certify every week no matter what. Thank you.

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good!! set a phone reminder too. Sunday or Monday, every week, no exceptions

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also when you certify and it asks if you were able and available to work - make sure you answer yes (assuming you were). That's one of the eligibility requirements people sometimes accidentally answer wrong and it can create issues

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I applied for EDD after getting fired about 6 months ago and my experience was pretty smooth honestly. I think it depends a lot on whether your former employer decides to fight the claim or not. Mine didn't contest it at all so there was no adjudication, just got approved in about 10 days. Fingers crossed your employer doesn't push back too hard.

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That would be the dream scenario. I genuinely don't know if my old company will contest it or not. My manager seemed pretty checked out by the end so maybe they won't bother?

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In my case I think the company just didn't have the bandwidth to deal with it. Smaller companies especially often don't bother responding to EDD questionnaires. Bigger companies with HR departments are more likely to contest.

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yeah worked at a startup and they never replied to EDD at all. got approved super fast

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This might be a dumb question but when EDD asks what your reason for separation was, do you put 'fired' or 'discharged' or 'laid off' or what? The dropdown on UI Online confused me and I wasn't sure what to select.

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Not a dumb question at all. 'Discharge' is the technical term EDD uses for being fired. Select 'discharge' not 'layoff' - selecting the wrong reason can actually complicate your claim if it doesn't match what your employer says. Answer accurately and let EDD sort out the nuances.

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Ok good to know. I put 'laid off' because I panicked and thought it would help my chances. Should I call EDD to correct this?

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Yes, I would contact EDD to clarify the separation reason as soon as possible. A discrepancy between what you reported and what your employer reported can flag the claim for additional review. It's always better to proactively correct a mistake than have EDD discover the inconsistency during their review.

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Agree - call EDD to fix this. The good news is correcting a mistake you caught yourself looks very different from intentional misrepresentation. EDD agents deal with this regularly.

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has anyone tried the EDD online chat? I've been going back and forth between trying to call and trying chat and honestly both seem equally useless when you actually need answers about your specific claim

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The chat can answer general questions but for anything claim-specific you really do need a phone agent. I spent a frustrating week trying every channel before I tried Claimyr. The site is claimyr.com and they have a walkthrough video at https://youtu.be/JmuwXR7HA10. It routes you through to an actual EDD phone agent instead of you sitting on hold for hours. For something like a fired claim in adjudication you really do need someone who can pull up your file.

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I've heard about Claimyr a few times now. Does it work for just checking on claim status or only for more complicated issues?

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Works for anything that requires talking to an actual agent. Claim status, adjudication questions, fixing wrong info you submitted, whatever. As long as you need a real human at EDD, it gets you there.

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UPDATE for anyone following: I posted here about two weeks ago (different account). My claim was in adjudication after being fired and I was freaking out. Got my determination letter yesterday - APPROVED. EDD found no misconduct. My employer did respond to their questionnaire but apparently couldn't provide enough documentation to prove willful misconduct. The whole thing took about 5 weeks from initial filing to determination. Don't give up if your claim is in adjudication - it can absolutely go your way.

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This is exactly what I needed to see right now. Congratulations!! And thank you for coming back to post the update.

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Hang in there. Document everything, certify every week, and be honest with EDD about what happened. That's really all you can do while you wait.

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Love a success story in this thread. Real hope for everyone sitting in adjudication right now.

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congrats!! this is the update we all needed

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