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This is really concerning and unfortunately more common than it should be with small employers. I went through something similar where my boss would shift my hours between pay periods to avoid certain thresholds. A few additional things to consider: - Document not just when you work, but also any verbal instructions from your boss about how he's handling the pay periods. If possible, get these instructions in writing (email, text, etc.) - Check if your state has a wage theft hotline - California has pretty strong worker protections - When you do file for UI (if needed), mention this issue upfront during your initial claim. Being proactive about explaining discrepancies looks better than having EDD discover them later Also, keep in mind that even if this creates some initial delays with your claim, EDD has to pay you retroactively for any weeks you were eligible once the issue gets resolved. The most important thing is having your documentation ready. Your employer's behavior is sketchy at best and potentially illegal. You're smart to be thinking ahead about this!
This is really helpful advice, especially about documenting verbal instructions! I never thought about trying to get his instructions in writing but that's a great idea. I'm going to start asking follow-up questions via text when he tells me about pay period changes. Do you know if there's a specific California wage theft hotline number, or should I just look it up on the Labor Commissioner's website? I want to have that information ready just in case this situation gets worse. Thanks for the reassurance about retroactive payments too - that definitely helps ease some of my anxiety about potential delays!
You can find California's wage theft resources on the Department of Industrial Relations website at dir.ca.gov - they have a dedicated wage theft section with complaint forms and contact information. The Labor Commissioner's Office handles these cases and they're pretty responsive to wage manipulation issues. Getting those instructions in writing via text is brilliant - courts and agencies love that kind of documentation because it's timestamped and shows the employer's intent. Even something like "Hey, just to confirm - you want me to add Monday's hours to last week's timesheet instead of this week's?" can be powerful evidence. One more thing - if your employer is doing this to you, they're probably doing it to other employees too. Sometimes filing a complaint can help protect your coworkers as well. The Labor Commissioner can investigate patterns of wage manipulation across multiple employees, which strengthens everyone's case. Stay strong and keep documenting everything!
oh also if they do give u a few hours make sure u report the exact earnings when u certify. if u make under a certain amount u still get partial unemployment for that week
I went through almost the exact same thing 6 months ago! My employer called it a "workforce optimization" but basically moved me from 35 hours to "as needed" which turned out to be zero hours. I was so confused about whether to apply since they kept saying I wasn't terminated. I applied within a week and got approved. The key thing is that EDD looks at your actual work situation, not what your employer calls it. Going from consistent full-time hours to zero is definitely qualifying for benefits - it's basically a layoff with fancy paperwork. Document everything - keep that change of relationship paper, screenshot your work schedule showing no hours, and save any texts/emails about the status change. Also start your job search right away because you'll need to show work search activities when you certify. Good luck, and don't let them intimidate you out of filing!
I'm in a very similar situation right now - been doing some part-time tutoring while on UI and didn't report about $1,400 in earnings over the past month. Reading all these experiences is giving me so much hope! It sounds like the key is really being proactive and honest about it. One question for those who have been through this - when you calculated what you owed back, did you use gross earnings or net earnings after expenses? I had some costs for materials and transportation for the tutoring sessions, so I'm not sure if I should report the full amount I was paid or subtract my business expenses first. Also, has anyone had success reaching EDD by phone recently, or is the Ask EDD online feature really the best way to start this process? I've been calling for two days straight with no luck getting through. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's really helping me work up the courage to come forward instead of just hoping they don't catch it!
For UI reporting purposes, you generally need to report gross earnings before expenses. EDD looks at what you were paid, not your net profit after business deductions. However, when you contact them, you can explain your situation and they may consider legitimate business expenses in their calculation. Definitely mention the materials and transportation costs when you submit through Ask EDD - they have some discretion in how they handle these situations. As for contacting them, the Ask EDD feature has been much more reliable than phone calls lately. Most people in this thread who succeeded used the online method. The phone lines are absolutely swamped right now. I'd recommend going the Ask EDD route and being very detailed in your submission - include all the context about your expenses and be completely transparent about wanting to make this right voluntarily. You're making the smart choice by coming forward! Based on everyone's experiences here, voluntary disclosure really does make a huge difference in how they handle it.
Reading through all these experiences is incredibly reassuring! I was in almost this exact situation about 4 months ago - had some freelance writing work that ended up being way more income than I initially expected while I was collecting UI. Like many others here, I was absolutely terrified about fraud penalties, but the Ask EDD route worked really well for me. I submitted a detailed explanation through my UI Online account, included all my contract documentation and payment records, and emphasized that I was voluntarily coming forward to correct my mistake. The whole process took about 6-7 weeks from submission to resolution. EDD classified it as a non-fraud overpayment since I self-reported, so I only had to pay back the principal amount ($1,890 in my case) with no 30% penalty or penalty weeks. They offered me a payment plan of $180/month which has been totally manageable. The EDD representative I spoke with during the process actually thanked me for being proactive and said it makes their job much easier when people come forward voluntarily rather than them discovering it during audits. My biggest piece of advice: don't wait any longer to start this process. The longer you wait, the more it looks like you were trying to hide it rather than just making an honest mistake. Gather all your documentation, write a clear and honest explanation in Ask EDD, and start the process this week. The anticipation and worry is honestly much worse than the actual resolution!
I work at a local housing nonprofit and see this situation constantly! Here's what I tell clients: most housing programs have a 30-day grace period for unemployment documentation specifically because EDD is so slow. Ask your housing coordinator directly about their policy for newly filed claims - they should have a standard procedure. In the meantime, print EVERYTHING from your UI Online account: the confirmation page, any emails EDD sent you, and even screenshots of your login showing your claim number. Create a simple timeline document showing when you lost your job, when you filed, and when you expect the award letter. Most reasonable housing staff will work with you if you show you're being proactive. Also, some local One-Stop Career Centers have direct contacts at EDD and can sometimes expedite verification letters for housing emergencies - worth calling yours to ask!
This is incredibly helpful insider information, thank you! I had no idea that most housing programs have a 30-day grace period specifically for EDD delays - that takes so much pressure off. I'm definitely going to ask my housing coordinator directly about their policy and create that timeline document you suggested. The One-Stop Career Center tip is gold too - I didn't even know those existed but I'm going to look up my local one right away. It's such a relief to hear from someone who actually works in housing and understands how common this problem is. Really appreciate you taking the time to share the professional perspective!
Just wanted to add another potential workaround that worked for me recently - if you have a case worker or social worker assigned to you through any other program (like SNAP, Medicaid, etc.), they often have direct lines to EDD or can send official requests on your behalf. I was struggling with the same award letter issue for my housing voucher, and my SNAP caseworker was able to call EDD and get a verification letter emailed within 48 hours. She said it's because agency-to-agency requests get prioritized differently than individual calls. Also, if you're part of any disability services or workforce development programs, those staff members usually have similar connections. Worth checking if you have any other case workers who might be able to advocate for you - they understand the urgency of housing documentation and are used to navigating these bureaucratic delays!
This is such a smart approach! I never thought about leveraging other case workers I might have. I don't currently have a SNAP or Medicaid caseworker, but I did register with a workforce development program when I first lost my job. I'm going to call them tomorrow and see if they have any connections or can make official requests on my behalf. The idea that agency-to-agency requests get prioritized makes total sense - it's probably much harder for EDD to ignore a formal request from another government program than individual calls. Thanks for this creative solution, it's given me another avenue to try!
Dmitry Smirnov
Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses! I'm feeling much better about my situation now. I'm going to: 1) Report the one day worked when I certify, 2) Gather documentation about my medical needs, 3) Write down a detailed timeline of events, and 4) Prepare for a possible eligibility interview. I'll update this thread after I certify to let you know what happens in case anyone else faces a similar situation in the future.
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AstroAlpha
•good plan! def let us know what happens
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Ravi Patel
Just wanted to add - if you do end up needing to talk to EDD about this, don't volunteer too much information upfront. Answer their questions directly but don't over-explain unless they ask for details. Sometimes giving too much context can actually work against you because they might focus on the wrong parts of your story. Also, if they do put your claim on hold for review, that's actually pretty normal for situations like this. It doesn't mean you did anything wrong - they just need to verify that you had good cause for leaving. The medical necessity for health benefits is definitely a legitimate reason, especially since you weren't told about the lack of coverage during the hiring process. One more tip: if you get an interview scheduled, write down your key points beforehand so you don't forget anything important when you're on the call. These interviews can be nerve-wracking and it's easy to forget details when you're stressed. You're handling this the right way by being proactive and honest about it!
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Adaline Wong
•This is really solid advice! I never thought about not over-explaining - I tend to ramble when I'm nervous so I'll definitely write down key points beforehand if I get an interview. Thanks for mentioning that holds are normal for these situations too, that makes me feel less anxious about the whole thing.
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